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    oh i didnt mean to offend anyone really...im not one of those "EATING MEAT IS WRONG!!!!!!!!!!! U FUCKING MURDERER!" vegitarians....lol. i mean what people eat is their choice and i do not judge people merely based on their diet.

    however, i just think its quite ODD when they say killing animals is wrong but eating one isnt. i mean, techincally we dont NEED meat to survive. its a bonus, methinks. i mean its not like like we live in the forest and need to hunt to survive....i mean shit if i was on a stranded island and all i could eat was some monkey, id do it. but there are so many veggie options nowadays and many ways to get enough nutrients without meat, so why do i need it?

    and while i dont tihnk its fucking "horriable" to kill animals for food (at least your killing them to eat, not because u just want to kill and be evil) i still think its hyrprocitical to say "killing animals is wrong" when u eat dead animals all the time. its like, people who kill animals out of hate ans stupidity should go to jail, but the companies who produce meat in torturing slaughterhouses dont have to?

    i mean its just like how people can get the life scentence for murder...yet if you go to iraq and kill innocent people, its not a big deal.

    i mean i do think torturing animals is evil....however i suppose just killing an animal who had a normal life in wild quick and painless for food is OK. but i mean, alot of those animals who go to the slaughterhouse spend their whole life cooped up, treated like shit, fed weird hormornes, and killed in a killing machine very brutally.

    sorry i really dont mean to say anyone here is stupid , and im not saying anyone here is a "murderer" just because they eat meat..lol.

    just my opinon. im not saying im tottaly right or anything..lol.
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    Everyone is entitled to believe in what they believe in and we all agree this act was atrocious, disturbing and uncalled for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Windy View Post
    oh i didnt mean to offend anyone really...im not one of those "EATING MEAT IS WRONG!!!!!!!!!!! U FUCKING MURDERER!" vegitarians....lol. i mean what people eat is their choice and i do not judge people merely based on their diet.

    however, i just think its quite ODD when they say killing animals is wrong but eating one isnt. i mean, techincally we dont NEED meat to survive. its a bonus, methinks. i mean its not like like we live in the forest and need to hunt to survive....i mean shit if i was on a stranded island and all i could eat was some monkey, id do it. but there are so many veggie options nowadays and many ways to get enough nutrients without meat, so why do i need it?

    and while i dont tihnk its fucking "horriable" to kill animals for food (at least your killing them to eat, not because u just want to kill and be evil) i still think its hyrprocitical to say "killing animals is wrong" when u eat dead animals all the time. its like, people who kill animals out of hate ans stupidity should go to jail, but the companies who produce meat in torturing slaughterhouses dont have to?

    i mean its just like how people can get the life scentence for murder...yet if you go to iraq and kill innocent people, its not a big deal.

    i mean i do think torturing animals is evil....however i suppose just killing an animal who had a normal life in wild quick and painless for food is OK. but i mean, alot of those animals who go to the slaughterhouse spend their whole life cooped up, treated like shit, fed weird hormornes, and killed in a killing machine very brutally.

    sorry i really dont mean to say anyone here is stupid , and im not saying anyone here is a "murderer" just because they eat meat..lol.

    just my opinon. im not saying im tottaly right or anything..lol.

    You first post DID sound like you WERE stating that animal eaters are the SAME as animal abusers. First of all, if I had to kill a cow myself to eat it, I'd never do it. My ass would be eating grass. HOWEVER...abusing/killing an animal for no reason is ridiculous, and to compare us to people who that is even worse. I dont condone ANY kind of animal abuse.

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    I used to want to visit P.R. but not anymore.
    those people should be shot execution style- and that would still be more humane than what they did.
    I really hope it gets ugly over this. It needs to be dealt with.

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    Mare hon, take it easy not all Puerto Ricans are that way. I grew up in PR and visit as often as possible, this is the first time I have ever heard of such cruelty. I myself as a teen would gather people and save money to feed and tend to abandoned or homeless animals.


    I believe that due to the uproar and people's reaction to such horror it will be taken care of. People are appalled, there are strikes and the Mayor seems to be in favor of the people and the victims.

    Don't take this situation and condemn an entire country for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Windy View Post
    oh i didnt mean to offend anyone really...im not one of those "EATING MEAT IS WRONG!!!!!!!!!!! U FUCKING MURDERER!" vegitarians....lol. i mean what people eat is their choice and i do not judge people merely based on their diet.

    however, i just think its quite ODD when they say killing animals is wrong but eating one isnt. i mean, techincally we dont NEED meat to survive. its a bonus, methinks. i mean its not like like we live in the forest and need to hunt to survive....i mean shit if i was on a stranded island and all i could eat was some monkey, id do it. but there are so many veggie options nowadays and many ways to get enough nutrients without meat, so why do i need it?...
    I agree. I don't want to force my beliefs on everyone, but I'm baffled as to how some people can think it's an atrocity to abuse a cute and friendly animal such as a dog or cat, but it's perfectly fine to cruelly raise and kill cows or pigs in order to eat meat, because we "need" it. We don't. It is way more productive and efficient to grow plants instead of raise animals for food.

    That said, I'm not going to yell at someone for eating a hamburger; it's your decision to make. I used to be one of those people who judges non-vegetarians harshly, but I've since loosened up and realized it's not my place to judge others for their beliefs on eating habits.

    Sorry that was a mile off-topic, but I did want to reply to Windy's post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toki View Post
    I agree. I don't want to force my beliefs on everyone, but I'm baffled as to how some people can think it's an atrocity to abuse a cute and friendly animal such as a dog or cat, but it's perfectly fine to cruelly raise and kill cows or pigs in order to eat meat, because we "need" it. We don't. It is way more productive and efficient to grow plants instead of raise animals for food.

    That said, I'm not going to yell at someone for eating a hamburger; it's your decision to make. I used to be one of those people who judges non-vegetarians harshly, but I've since loosened up and realized it's not my place to judge others for their beliefs on eating habits.

    Sorry that was a mile off-topic, but I did want to reply to Windy's post.
    Wow. It is not the same. Abusing an animal to TORTURE and kill it is not the same as "humanely" killing an animal to eat it.

    Just because people eat meat does not mean that they want animals to be abused.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexi View Post
    Wow. It is not the same. Abusing an animal to TORTURE and kill it is not the same as "humanely" killing an animal to eat it.

    Just because people eat meat does not mean that they want animals to be abused.
    Did I say that people who eat meat want animals to be abused? No. But whether you like it or not, unless you're eating an organic free-range steak, chances are the animal it came from lived a shitty life in a factory farm and faced a grisly death. I'm not trying to impose judgement here; I'm just describing modern farming practices.

    I really don't think that the majority of people who eat meat want animals to suffer, but in reality both situations here do involve pain and suffering of animals. But then again, so do a lot of things in our modern lifestyle [ie. medicines, household products,etc] that are very difficult to avoid sometimes; it's nearly impossible these days to live a 100% cruelty-free life. That said, yes, the motives behind these situations, as you've pointed out, are very different, but they both still involve unnecessary cruelty. It's just that the unprovoked torturing of pets is way more f*cked up and uncalled for than having ol' Bessie sent away to Bovine University.

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    There is no question. Someone (human) would wind up dead if that happened to any animals I know. I remember hearing something similar about China when I was little and I came to the same conclusion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toki View Post
    Did I say that people who eat meat want animals to be abused? No. But whether you like it or not, unless you're eating an organic free-range steak, chances are the animal it came from lived a shitty life in a factory farm and faced a grisly death. I'm not trying to impose judgement here; I'm just describing modern farming practices.

    I really don't think that the majority of people who eat meat want animals to suffer, but in reality both situations here do involve pain and suffering of animals. But then again, so do a lot of things in our modern lifestyle [ie. medicines, household products,etc] that are very difficult to avoid sometimes; it's nearly impossible these days to live a 100% cruelty-free life. That said, yes, the motives behind these situations, as you've pointed out, are very different, but they both still involve unnecessary cruelty. It's just that the unprovoked torturing of pets is way more f*cked up and uncalled for than having ol' Bessie sent away to Bovine University.
    Amen girl. yeah im not saying people who fucking eat animals nessarily are 'evil' haha or WANT animals to abused, but the fact is, it happens.

    so i just think its just weird for people to think its horriable and a crime to kill poor wittle animals when animals are being killed all the time to keep mcdonalds and other restruants in business- and that aint no "thang"...as if cows,chickens,pigs, etc dont count...only kittens and doggies....lol.

    and of course, just eating a dead animal doesnt mean u killed it..yer just eating it. so im not saying people who eat meat are murderers...haha.

    im just weirded out by the hyrprocitiy(sp)....haha.

    and yes, i try my best, but it is DAMN hard to eat and live 100% cruelty free.

    Bovine university? did u get that from the simpsons eposide when lisa goes veggie? haha ralph, "when i grow up, i wanna graduate from BOVIIINNNE UNIVERSITY!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toki View Post
    Did I say that people who eat meat want animals to be abused? No. But whether you like it or not, unless you're eating an organic free-range steak, chances are the animal it came from lived a shitty life in a factory farm and faced a grisly death. I'm not trying to impose judgement here; I'm just describing modern farming practices.

    I really don't think that the majority of people who eat meat want animals to suffer, but in reality both situations here do involve pain and suffering of animals. But then again, so do a lot of things in our modern lifestyle [ie. medicines, household products,etc] that are very difficult to avoid sometimes; it's nearly impossible these days to live a 100% cruelty-free life. That said, yes, the motives behind these situations, as you've pointed out, are very different, but they both still involve unnecessary cruelty. It's just that the unprovoked torturing of pets is way more f*cked up and uncalled for than having ol' Bessie sent away to Bovine University.

    I agree that you would have to eat organic, free range... however stating that its hypocritcal of people to say its wrong to abuse animals because they EAT them is wrong too.

    I have watched those sick videos where they DO abuse animal in slaughter houses and it totally turned me off to meat as well (where I do not eat it nearly as much as before) However, this is not what the original post was about and that is why people were getting offended. Torturing animals, in ANY condition is wrong.

    Unfortunately, humans think that they are better than animals and they have no regard for them (either abusing them at home or in slaughter houses by letting them die slowly) etc.

    Anyway, we are just going around in circles. I get your point and you get mine.

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    Candice: Thanks for posting that petition! I'll send it to my friends too.

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    Lexi: I do see what you're saying about hypocrisy. Besides, everybody is a hypocrite in some way, that's just part of being human.

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