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    Do dancers consider customer loyalty important and do they test customer loyalty? I have my opinion but was curious.....

    If it is important how are customers punished for being disloyal?

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    That's...broad.

    You mean like loyalty to favorite dancers, like regulars?

    I like my regulars.

    If they don't seem to like me anymore I'll move on....

    If that's what you meant
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    punish them for being "disloyal"?

    that seems childish and drama-ridden. fuck that. i'd rather just move on.

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    Prior business should give a dancer the impression that customer will likely be a better prospect for future business than someone new to her. Prior business should give a customer the impression he will have a much better time with a dancer whom he has had a good time in the past than seeking out a new girl.

    Of course, much like they tell you in investing, past performance is not always an accurate indicator of future returns.

    Beyond giving that initial sense that someone familar is a better prospect than playing the field, "loyalty" in any sense of the word is a drama-ridden liability inside the SC. Nobody should have to be faithful or allegiant in a relationship created over commerce. I don't know why so many customers and dancers alike feel that they do.
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    Punishing customers for being disloyal? How would a dancer punish a regular for being disloyal? By not paying him any attention? In the end, it would be a self inflicted financial punishment by the dancer wouldn't it?

    I've never come across a dancer who tried to test my loyalty. Again, what is there to gain for the dancer? She risks losing regular business doesn't she?

    I will admit that I have gotten dances from dancers who I knew were in the same clique as those I regularly got dances from and avoided dancers who were in opposing camps as it were. Now that I think about it, it seem ridiculous but for whatever reason, it seemed to make sense at the time. I should point out that at no time did any dancer tell me I should not get dances or talk to so and so.

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    I have certainly known some dancers to make a regular feel that they cannot get dances from anyone else. Im not sure whether they expressly told them this or not but the customer definately didnt get dances off other girls. There is also the possibility that they did not want to get dances off any other dancer.

    To me, it seems like a good way to get a regular to stop spending on you. I dont think most customers, even regulars, come to SC's to deal with jealous g/f type relationships. Although there are such customers who love drama like that and create it.
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    um. wtf?

    no. I think only immature dancers would do that. it's called cutting your nose to spite your face.

    i did have a regular who liked me to act jealous if he talked to a waitress or another dancer, but i think that's a special cercumstance. I'd never do it otherwise.

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    ^^^
    can u please explain that more, im interested. Did he actually come out and ask u to act jealous?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaizaine View Post
    ^^^
    can u please explain that more, im interested. Did he actually come out and ask u to act jealous?
    I think he was just asking her to role play. I do something similar with my fave at home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by doc-catfish View Post
    I think he was just asking her to role play. I do something similar with my fave at home.
    ya. he asked me to act like i got really jealous when he spoke to other women. I'd act all pouty and ask if he thought she was hotter then me.... stuff like that. he'd try to reassure me that i was the best,....

    he 1st mentioned it when i told him i was in school for theatre.

    i get a lot of guys asking me to role play stuff for them once then know I have an acting background.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lola Rose View Post
    ya. he asked me to act like i got really jealous when he spoke to other women. I'd act all pouty and ask if he thought she was hotter then me.... stuff like that. he'd try to reassure me that i was the best,....

    he 1st mentioned it when i told him i was in school for theatre.

    i get a lot of guys asking me to role play stuff for them once then know I have an acting background.
    that kinda sounds fun.

    But no...I'm not going to "punish" my customers, I think that would make them decide I was a little crazy.


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    Of course, much like they tell you in investing, past performance is not always an accurate indicator of future returns.
    This is why the concept of customer loyalty in an SC is a temporal condition.
    Idealism is fine, but as it approaches reality, the costs become prohibitive.

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    I think it's good business sense when you let your regular wander a little bit. I'm confident in myself and know he'll ALWAYS come back

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    I'm about as loyal to them as they are to me.

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    I dont own my customers any more then they own me. I have a cpl that throw temper tantrums if I talk to anyone else while they are there..it's irritating. ANd I wouldnt do it to them.

    If he wants to dance with someone else...thats HIS choice. Woudl I be sad to lose money, of course. Esp now when things are slow. But I'm not going to bitch and moan and act like an ass...basically ensuring that he's NEVER give me money again. I'm an adult and I'm not stupid!

    That said...if he's the type, like Lola said, who gets offon being told what to do...its a whole differant ballgame

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    I recently was told that loyalty "IS" important by a dancer I adore......

    I was not loyal to her but now I will be. I like her a lot. She punished me by not dancing for me and ignoring me for a long time.

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    While not a strong presence on this board there are some pretty stupid women out there trying to strip for a living. I've been sneered at, cursed at and even berated on the internet for not giving a dancer my business. I've had one former fav call the INS on another, I've had the same former fav tell yet another girl to stay away from me right in front of my face in Portuguese. I've seen favs get bashed on the internet simply because a guy says something nice about them.

    My loyalty goes to the ladies who present themselves as friendly and intelligent and give a good dance. Over the years my improved BS radar and the fact that I almost never try a new dancer have minimized SC drama for me. I know the ladies that I do spend on appreciate my continued business but that is exactly what I would expect.
    I recently dumped a semi fav who played one too many head games with me over the last few years...should be interesting to see what happens on my next visit to the club...could start an international incident...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ironmaidern View Post
    I recently was told that loyalty "IS" important by a dancer I adore......

    I was not loyal to her but now I will be. I like her a lot. She punished me by not dancing for me and ignoring me for a long time.
    Some people are naturally submissive by nature and enjoy being treated like this, makes them feel special. But most men i think would just be like, "whatever? fuck off and I'll get dances from someone else then."
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    Vagina. The new penis. Shit. Get a dance from whomever you want. Right now, my fuckbuddy is fucking another colleaugue from a different city just down the hall from my hotel room. I wish I could make it stop and beat their asses, but I cannot control othersactions and emotions.

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    Ever notice the women who seem to be particularly good earners have an attitude of abundance/plenty of fish in the sea/etc.? Bottom line: Strippers are providing a service. If you enjoy the service, buy. If you do not, stop.
    "She held me close and whispered in my ear how wonderful I was. Since I'm not wonderful. I was pretty sure this was a trap. So I figured I'd better grope her as much as I could before they sprung the trap. You've got to take what you can get in this life. I read that in a magazine. So I started smearing kisses on her and pawing the front of her dress, trying to get my money's worth before somebody bashed my head in." John Swartzwelder

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironmaidern View Post
    Do dancers consider customer loyalty important and do they test customer loyalty? I have my opinion but was curious.....

    If it is important how are customers punished for being disloyal?
    Loyalty will never happen when dancing and dealing with paying customers. If your not working and he comes in he will simply chose another dancer for starters. They have favorites, sure. But they will not remain loyal to you or the other. That is now what a strip club is for. They check out the menu, and chose what they like all the time. It's only chat and dancing for him....same ole thing gets boring. Men want variety!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pamela View Post
    . It's only chat and dancing for him....same ole thing gets boring. Men want variety!

    Exactly. If guys wanted the same old thing day in and day out..they'd just go home to their wives! And we'd all be out of a job!!

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    Maybe if you talked about familiarity rather than loyalty, you might have an explanation.

    I'm sure some guys come in knowing a specific dancer is going to welcome them when they see them in the club. Means he's going to be greeted in a friendly manner, not hustled as hard for dances and maybe will get slightly longer/better dances. Better than being treated as an anonymous wallet.

    Dancer knows she's got a reasonably guarenteed income, a customer who's going to be reasonably polite and respect her limits and probably a less stressful time than if she gets a handsy or rude customer. Better the devil you know...

    From that POV the customer has some leverage over the dancer in that she'd rather a polite, reasonably spending customer spent his $$$'s on her rather than another dancer.

    Ditto, the dancer has some leverage as presumably the customer could end up being treated less well by another dancer who didn't know him, for example with standard length dances - so the cusomer might be mildly reluctant to start building up an ITC relationship with another dancer unless he has to.

    So there's probably a bit of benefit for both sides in building up some degree of familiarity.

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    She punished me by not dancing for me and ignoring me for a long time.
    That is fucking retarded. Now, if she punishes you by not dancing for you and still takes your cash (making you a money slave), that's fine if that's your thing. But any other dancer with two brain cells will gladly take your money.
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