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    This is kind of haunting me but I'm not sure why. I must have an answer! There's a girl at my club who is probably our top earner. She's clean, very business-like, doesn't sit and talk with customers or have too many regs it seems. I notice she rarely EVER sits down so I can't imagine she really connects with a lot of her customers on that 'friendly get-to-know-you chemistry' level.

    Well having said this, I notice she makes CRAZY money every time she goes on stage and I have no idea how she does it. While she is average-pretty and very normal looking, she dances to crappy Top 40 R&B and she doesn't do anything on the pole. She consistently comes back to the DR with a trash bag full of 1's while the rest of us don't make very much at all (I'd say the usual high avg. for stage is $30). Even the girls who are incredible pole dancers and dance to quality music that the crowd seems to love don't come close to this chick. I jokingly asked her, "How do you DO that?" and she said "NOTHING. I don't do anything special...".

    Is she full of shit? How do you get people to consistently tip you large sums of money on stage like that when it's like pulling teeth to get people to get a 2 for 1 some days?

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    she must radiate.

    some girls have really awesome personalities that shine through. maybe she's got one?

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    Not really...I find her to be a little cold and can't read much about her at all.

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    Makes absolutely no sense. No wonder its driving you crazy. All I can think of is she is maybe demanding extra tips like how they do it in Hawaii. The girls dont do anything special there but they do hold out their garters and require that the guy are constantly tipping, like a dollar every other second. When one guy is out of money they move on to the next one. Who knows?

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    maybe your clientele thinks they are rappers and like the r&b ? dude, i have no idea and now it's bugging me!

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    We don't do the garter thing here. You can't touch the girls on stage and vice versa. We do 2 song sets, the second song we get in the middle area of the stage (6 foot rule) and get topless. Her stage tips are usually a product of dudes 'making it rain' but they are different guys every time.

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    I too have a girl like this at my club....she is pretty but not gorgeous, SUPER skinny-no hips, no ass, no tits....she doesnt really have a personality and what I have seen of it is VERY lacking! She does absolutely NOTHING on stage, hell, she practically just walks around the pole! She is THE TOP EARNER at my club....there isnt a second that she isnt in VIP and makes bank on stage!
    What further perplexes me is that any guy who has ever made a comment to me about her LDs, say they are awful, very mechanical. Even some of my regs who have danced with her before say she has zero interest or enthusiasm....

    NO CLUE!

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    Eye contact. I know it sometimes helps to give some guys "the look." Especially if you can see they want to be recognized or show off.

    For me, its a sideways look thats just a second too long. It signals interest. I have given people "the look," sometimes on purpose, a couple times on accident. (Getting caught staring!) But my ex gave me the look the first time I saw him, I remember. It was like lightening. It was years ago and I still remember.

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    the ice princess thing tends to be alarmingly lucrative with a surprisingly broad customer base.

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    Default Re: Crazy stage tips!

    If she's circulating that much maybe she's telling guys to come tip her when she's on stage?



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    Maybe she's prettier than you think. Or maybe she has the type of body the guys like. Maybe it's because she is so distant so guys are more attracted to her, she's a mystery they're trying to break open. Or maybe they're attracted to the fact that she isn't constantly in their face getting too friendly. Instead of sitting and chatting, they KNOW they have to pay for her. Whereas, some girls just give free friendly chat. Maybe its the music selection. What you may consider crappy, the custies may consider great. Or maybe it's how she moves with the music---rhythm. I watched a girl dance once and she didn't have the best body but she knew how to move with the music and not against it. That's why I tipped her, wish I hadn't though. She got lazy afterwards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyOne View Post
    Eye contact. I know it sometimes helps to give some guys "the look." Especially if you can see they want to be recognized or show off.

    For me, its a sideways look thats just a second too long. It signals interest. I have given people "the look," sometimes on purpose, a couple times on accident. (Getting caught staring!) But my ex gave me the look the first time I saw him, I remember. It was like lightening. It was years ago and I still remember.

    That's the first thing that came to my mind. Eye contact.
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    I call it stage prescence (sp?). Some girls just have it, even if they don't do sh*t. I do a lot of sh*t, but I don't have it at all.

    echomadison mentioned a girl exactly like one I used to work with as well. She barely said a word to the guys, and gave pretty crappy lapdances, but made bank. All of my custies would be like, "she's so cold and the lapdance sucked" and I'm thinking, "Yea, but you just spent a hundred bucks on her."

    I wish I could hustle like that.

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    I don't know what to say about that too. I've seen girl that banks in my club just on stage tips... but she's really hot though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexxaHex View Post
    This is kind of haunting me but I'm not sure why. I must have an answer! There's a girl at my club who is probably our top earner. She's clean, very business-like, doesn't sit and talk with customers or have too many regs it seems...Well having said this, I notice she makes CRAZY money every time she goes on stage and I have no idea how she does it.
    The view from the other side of the fence...

    You ladies are looking at this girl through a dancer's eyes, thinking "I'm not behaving very differently from her, yet she's banking and I'm not".

    Us males look at dancers through a different perspective. We have our illiusions about dancers, and one of them is you're enjoying dancing for us. Watching a dancer that is actually or apparently getting pleasure from our attention gives us an erotic charge.

    Watching a dancer (no matter how pretty or accomplished) who does not seem to be enjoying our attention or enjoying herself doesn't have that erotic charge - the dancer is pleasing to look at, but not a (male) turn on to watch.

    In other words, we guys pick up different signals from you ladies. The dancer AlexxaHex mentioned might not be sending out signals intended for a female audience, but might be very definately registering on the male radar.

    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyOne View Post
    Eye contact. I know it sometimes helps to give some guys "the look." Especially if you can see they want to be recognized or show off...
    my ex gave me the look the first time I saw him, I remember. It was like lightening. It was years ago and I still remember.
    I know a lot about body language so here begineth the lecture....

    There are two things that happen with eye contact. First, it's the length of look. if we're flirting with someone, we hold eye contact a fraction longer than if it's just social eye contact. That why LuckyOne benefits from holding a guy's gaze a second longer than normal - it signals she's flirting with them and interested in them.

    At work (even if LuckyOne is using it as a marketing trick) it's liable to convince guys that she's personally interested in them and thus more erotic to talk to/watch dance.

    The second thing with eye contact (and it's something we can't control) is that our pupils dilate (expand) when we see someone we're attracted to. If you sometimes look at someone and you instintively think "they fancy me" that's probably why - your brain has subconsciously picked up the dilating pupils.

    If the attraction is mutual and both of you have pupils dilating at the same time, that's the lightning striking that LuckyOne mentioned. You both instincively know you're attracted to each other, and from there on it's pushing at an open door.

    I just wonder if this dancer is radiating signals (like eye contact and dilating pupils) that are sending customers the message "I'm personally enjoying dancing for you". If that's the case, then the dancer becomes a bit of a turn on to us and and we're liable to tip/buy dances.

    Quote Originally Posted by echomadison View Post
    I too have a girl like this at my club....she is pretty but not gorgeous, SUPER skinny-no hips, no ass, no tits....she doesnt really have a personality....there isnt a second that she isnt in VIP and makes bank on stage!
    What further perplexes me is that any guy who has ever made a comment to me about her LDs, say they are awful, very mechanical...
    Although body language sgnals can be faked/mimicked for a time, they can't be consistently faked. What could be happening here is that the dancer genuinely enjoys being on stage and is radiating "I'm getting pleasure out of this" signals to the guys watching her (erotic impact again).

    However, if she doesn't feel comfortable doing private dances, then the "I'm enjoying it" signals will be absent and the private dance will come across as cold and mechanical.

    If you ladies are interested in the solution to this puzzle, I'd look for two things:

    (a) Are the dancers mentioned above who bank making reasonably long eye contact (flirtation signal)?

    (b) Are the guys "making it rain" watching the dancers face more than her body. If they are it's a pretty good clue that her pupils are dilating (expanding) and the customers watching are subconsciously picking up on that signal.

    Phil.

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    While I agree with a lot of the psychological theories you are presenting here, Phil, I do think that it would be hard to know if the dancer's pupils are dilated in a club setting, especially when she is bent over or 6 feet away on stage.

    When I go to work tomorrow I will watch her more closely and see if I notice anything further.

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    After she gets off stage does she try to get any LDs off her tippers???

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    After she gets off stage does she try to get any LDs off her tippers???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corgan View Post
    she must radiate.

    some girls have really awesome personalities that shine through. maybe she's got one?
    Exactly. The dancer in Tucson I REALLY loved played shitty top 40 and R&B songs, hardly did anything special (there was no pole). She just radiated FUN.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tasteebars View Post
    After she gets off stage does she try to get any LDs off her tippers???
    I'm not exactly sure since I don't know what she says to her customers but probably, I'd imagine. We almost always do 'tip walks'.

    Why would it matter when she sold her LDs when we are talking about stage tips though?

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    I dont want to come across as one of those "I have an excuse for everything" type of posters but I must say....

    The girl I am talking about DOES NOT appear to enjoy herself on stage, she has NO stage presence. I would say as far as non-newbie dancers go, she is pretty effin' AWFUL. As stated previously she just walks around the pole, then does minimal floor work. NO eye contact, no smiling and she dances to the shortest songs we have. NO JOKE. Her songs are no longer than 2 mintues ever, unless she gets yelled at for playing short songs. I think that makes it pretty obvious that she doesnt enjoy stage....
    As for what kissmemad said, maybe she is prettier than I think....NAH. I LOVE girls and would be the first to admit if it was a looks thing but it isnt! She is pretty but nothing amazing...

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    You know what, I could say the same about the girl I'm talking about, except she doesn't suck on stage. She is pretty, but not "tip you excessively because you're so hot" gorgeous. I mean, she's in shape and is pretty but nothing amazing. Yep.

    I don't really see her making that much eye contact, but like I said I'm looking harder tonight when I go in.

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    ^Maybe she's prettier than you think to the guys. Lots of times women have a different idea of what hot is, while most men prefer something else entirely. For example, many girls think skinny is whats most attractive while guys want to see more booty and curves.

    The girls that I see getting tipped the most are either, great performers, or have a sexy body. <----usually this would mean a curvy waist to hip ratio, perfect ass, long legs, or well shaped boobs. Nobody is perfect, but usually something about their body is outstanding.
    Then again, she could just be telling every customer to tip her, and when other customers see her getting tipped they follow suit.

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    this is a great post. i want to be THAT girl so bad! i'm close, except for the money part, lol.
    i think its the eye contact i'm lacking. huge. it makes me feel weird, but i just have to do it, its so fucking worth it. i get nervous for some reason, i think i need to get more drunk to start off with maybe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by laurcon View Post
    this is a great post. i want to be THAT girl so bad! i'm close, except for the money part, lol.
    i think its the eye contact i'm lacking. huge. it makes me feel weird, but i just have to do it, its so fucking worth it. i get nervous for some reason, i think i need to get more drunk to start off with maybe.
    You can learn to make eye contact without being drunk, and your body will thank you for it!

    Just think, as you're looking at each man's face, about how hot you are, how much they want to come tip you, etc.

    Start out with babysteps, look for a few seconds, smile, look away. It gets a lot easier with practice, and after a while you won't feel like you need to drink to do it.

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