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    Well the creep was finally interviewed by the detective and he admitted to harming me. His version was almost exactly to mine. The staff called me almost as soon as the detective left. I haven't returned their call. All I want to hear is I'll be coming back next term and I want it in writing..
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    So was he arrested?

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    So was he arrested?

    That's a huge NO ! He told the detective that I wanted to drop the charges and he had requested someone from the program to be there with him since he's a Canadian..Don't know what all happened. Detective said I need to call prosecutors office in a couple of days and let them know I want the charges pressed and everything to proceed.. Seems like a lot for the "victim" to do. I've never had this happen before so I don't know what the norm is..
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    I'm glad he at least is telling the truth about what happened, now it isn't a he-said she-said fiasco.

    Good luck! I hope the school takes better care of you now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Samba View Post
    I'm glad he at least is telling the truth about what happened, now it isn't a he-said she-said fiasco.

    Good luck! I hope the school takes better care of you now.
    I know ! That's a big relief..I hope so too but, I'm prepared if they don't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Farrah_Holiday View Post
    That's a huge NO ! He told the detective that I wanted to drop the charges and he had requested someone from the program to be there with him since he's a Canadian..Don't know what all happened. Detective said I need to call prosecutors office in a couple of days and let them know I want the charges pressed and everything to proceed.. Seems like a lot for the "victim" to do. I've never had this happen before so I don't know what the norm is..
    Thats BULLSHIT. He admitted to attacking you..then they dont arrest him because HE says you dont want them to?? Well..hell...everyone in Hawaii can apparetnly do anything they want..then just tell the cops "well..he WANTED me to shoot him,ass rape him and take all his money and his car" Oh..ok..thanks for coming to the station..Aloha.

    This is fucked up on SOOOOO many levels. I cant BELIEVE the cops are mishandling it so badly.

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    It does sound like an awful lot of "press charges" statements you have to make, but if it makes it happen, then it's well worth it.

    And, I hope they didn't release him because he said, "She wants to drop charges...". I have a feeling that he was released because it's not consider a "violent" act (meaning, he didn't pull a knife out and stab you 40 times and leave you to die). Definitely call the prosecutors office and tell them you want the charges to proceed.

    And then call the school back and listen to them grovel at your feet and trip over their tongues trying to kiss your ass.

    If they don't, get your lawsuit ready. They were wrong on every angle of this fiasco and they should be made to deal with it monetarily. Chances are that it will never go to trial and they'll settle beforehand...but make them accountable for their lack of action in this case. Absolutely unacceptable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cameron_keys View Post
    Thats BULLSHIT. He admitted to attacking you..then they dont arrest him because HE says you dont want them to?? Well..hell...everyone in Hawaii can apparetnly do anything they want..then just tell the cops "well..he WANTED me to shoot him,ass rape him and take all his money and his car" Oh..ok..thanks for coming to the station..Aloha.

    This is fucked up on SOOOOO many levels. I cant BELIEVE the cops are mishandling it so badly.

    Damn, I love you're post ! Thanks for the laugh, it is KINDA like that here..Everyone is TOO damn relaxed even the police.

    I forgot to add the original officer assigned to the case never even talked to him..He claims he came here and couldn't find him and then passed it on to the detective. I thought they had because he knew I was pressing charges..Apparently the yoga folks told him. Way to protect the victim !

    I'm surprised that the detective didn't come back up to talk to me after he interviewed me to at least confirm if what he said about droping the charges was even true. The more it sinks in I angry I become. You know what I'm going to call the detective and ask him why he wasn't arrested !!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by VenusGoddess View Post
    It does sound like an awful lot of "press charges" statements you have to make, but if it makes it happen, then it's well worth it.

    And, I hope they didn't release him because he said, "She wants to drop charges...". I have a feeling that he was released because it's not consider a "violent" act (meaning, he didn't pull a knife out and stab you 40 times and leave you to die). Definitely call the prosecutors office and tell them you want the charges to proceed.

    And then call the school back and listen to them grovel at your feet and trip over their tongues trying to kiss your ass.

    If they don't, get your lawsuit ready. They were wrong on every angle of this fiasco and they should be made to deal with it monetarily. Chances are that it will never go to trial and they'll settle beforehand...but make them accountable for their lack of action in this case. Absolutely unacceptable.

    I have a feeling that might have been the reason..I'm afraid I'm getting Hawaiian brain too. I'm just too relaxed here even with the drama. I know if I were back in the Bay Area, I'd be handling this so much differently.

    I don't have too much faith in the yoga people..Who knows what they're going to say. Keep in mind these are the same people who wanted me to go home " for my health" really I think it was to keep me from following through with this. Who knows though, I need to stay as optimist about this as I do everything else.
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    Ok, got a call back from the detective..He wasn't arrested 1. because it was after the fact, 2. because it's a misdemeanor ..

    WTF ever ! That's it I'm moving back to Houston, there I could've shot him and been fine ! Here I report it from my hospital bed and ..whatever !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Farrah_Holiday View Post
    Damn, I love you're post ! Thanks for the laugh, it is KINDA like that here..Everyone is TOO damn relaxed even the police.

    I forgot to add the original officer assigned to the case never even talked to him..He claims he came here and couldn't find him and then passed it on to the detective. I thought they had because he knew I was pressing charges..Apparently the yoga folks told him. Way to protect the victim !

    I'm surprised that the detective didn't come back up to talk to me after he interviewed me to at least confirm if what he said about droping the charges was even true. The more it sinks in I angry I become. You know what I'm going to call the detective and ask him why he wasn't arrested !!!!
    The YOGA people also said you didn't want to press charges??? And the detectives said, "Oh, ok...we were going to ask her, but since you said no...we'll give you the final say."

    Fuck pressing charges (well, do it anyways) but call your lawyer and have those assholes served NOW...and make sure it states in the complaint that they told the detectives not to press charges...AGAINST YOUR SAFETY AND WISHES. WTF? Isn't that called "interfering with a police investigation"? Who do they think they are and what the fuck do they think they're doing?

    Make them pay out the nose...and then go complete their class for free for your certification.

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    You know what? They don't want bad publicity...so when you go to serve them...make sure you call every newspaper in the area and tell them that Bikram is being served for knowing one of his students assaulted another of his students and not only was nothing done...they have been siding with the offender, even AFTER he admitted to the assault and making life hard for the victim.

    That'll get 'em.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VenusGoddess View Post
    The YOGA people also said you didn't want to press charges??? And the detectives said, "Oh, ok...we were going to ask her, but since you said no...we'll give you the final say."

    Fuck pressing charges (well, do it anyways) but call your lawyer and have those assholes served NOW...and make sure it states in the complaint that they told the detectives not to press charges...AGAINST YOUR SAFETY AND WISHES. WTF? Isn't that called "interfering with a police investigation"? Who do they think they are and what the fuck do they think they're doing?

    Make them pay out the nose...and then go complete their class for free for your certification.
    Oh, I'm so sorry..I'm half asleep right now ! My post wasn't clear.
    The yoga people told the creep that I was going to press charges (while I was in the hospital). See when they came to see me in the hospital they asked me if I was going to pursue anything and I said yes, I was pressing charges. That's when they were all acting concerned the first day I was in tthe hospital..I never even thought they'd turn like they did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VenusGoddess View Post
    You know what? They don't want bad publicity...so when you go to serve them...make sure you call every newspaper in the area and tell them that Bikram is being served for knowing one of his students assaulted another of his students and not only was nothing done...they have been siding with the offender, even AFTER he admitted to the assault and making life hard for the victim.

    That'll get 'em.
    Excellent,excellent advice..THANK YOU !
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    I agree that you're getting a lot of excellent advice here, Farrah--I especially liked what Venus said because when it gets down to it the yoga school is a business and no business wants this kind of publicity. I would inform your lawyer of everything you are doing (including the publicity) and press ahead firmly and steadily and calmly. The calm approach will scare the yoga school because they'll see you mean business and are not doing what you're doing out of a well of emotion (even though that is certainly justified). I think it is important to make it clear to everyone that you are looking for justice and to make sure this doesn't happen to anyone else. Since the creep has admitted what he did, there isn't much left for these people to stand on if they want to now rescue their reputation. They have brought it on themselves: they should have stood by you right away.

    So: steady and calm.

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    I am am so glad that creep admitted what he did. Of course that was an idiotic thing to do on his part, coz he basically also admitted he was lying to authorities. But he is and idiot for what he did to our beloved Farrah.... he deserves to be jailed, and the be sent to an institution.
    I think that VenusGoddess's suggestion of going public is a brilliant idea. I think if more people heard what you went through it would really help you get the justice you want. If schools and police fuck up publicly, especially nationally, then they will be doomed, and they know that.
    If the paper is about the police departments lack of care they will have to straighten up too. But of course the action has to be very careful because they are working for you, well sort of.
    I think you could also consider calling up a new station and having it aired publicly, of course, only if you think it will help. All the News Shows are looking for 'good stories' that are not celebrities!
    But definitely calmly go into this, maybe you can consider asking your lawyer what he things of going publicly as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jhuka View Post
    I agree that you're getting a lot of excellent advice here, Farrah--I especially liked what Venus said because when it gets down to it the yoga school is a business and no business wants this kind of publicity. I would inform your lawyer of everything you are doing (including the publicity) and press ahead firmly and steadily and calmly. The calm approach will scare the yoga school because they'll see you mean business and are not doing what you're doing out of a well of emotion (even though that is certainly justified). I think it is important to make it clear to everyone that you are looking for justice and to make sure this doesn't happen to anyone else. Since the creep has admitted what he did, there isn't much left for these people to stand on if they want to now rescue their reputation. They have brought it on themselves: they should have stood by you right away.

    So: steady and calm.

    Good for you, good lady.
    Thanks J, I'll keep that in mind..I'm still a bit in shock over the incident everyday brings new challenges for me and I'm so tired of telling the story,over and over, I get a headache even thinking about it.

    I'm doing my best not to associate it with the way I feel about the yoga..But, to be perfectly honest with you the whole incident, esp. the way the school has handled it leaves a sour taste in my mouth. I've decided to seek counseling this week and quit trying to deal with this emotional roller coaster I'm on. I'm either numb, angry, scared, sad,wanting to put it behind me, dying to start Farrah's yoga, wanting to put my foot in his ass. You name it I've felt it..I really wish I had someone here to help me deal with everything..Even my attorney is in CA..
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    Quote Originally Posted by pookie View Post
    I am am so glad that creep admitted what he did. Of course that was an idiotic thing to do on his part, coz he basically also admitted he was lying to authorities. But he is and idiot for what he did to our beloved Farrah.... he deserves to be jailed, and the be sent to an institution.
    I think that VenusGoddess's suggestion of going public is a brilliant idea. I think if more people heard what you went through it would really help you get the justice you want. If schools and police fuck up publicly, especially nationally, then they will be doomed, and they know that.
    If the paper is about the police departments lack of care they will have to straighten up too. But of course the action has to be very careful because they are working for you, well sort of.
    I think you could also consider calling up a new station and having it aired publicly, of course, only if you think it will help. All the News Shows are looking for 'good stories' that are not celebrities!
    But definitely calmly go into this, maybe you can consider asking your lawyer what he things of going publicly as well.
    I'm glad he admitted it too. I felt so warm and fuzzy when I read our beloved Farrah, that was sweet and I need it right now. I'm going to run this by my attorney in the morning. Hopefully Bikram will be back this week, I need resolution..
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    I don't have much to say that the others haven't already said, but I wanted to add that I hope things work out right for you in this situation. Stay as strong as I already know you are! Oh, and I hope that mean asshole gets what he deserves!

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    I've never understood the "coverup" model of deflecting bad publicity in cases like this. In my line of thinking, they'd want to have this wacko arrested, kick him out of the program and spin any press that *might* surface so as to make them look like heroes for plucking this bad apple who managed to infiltrate their school. A coverup is a much, much bigger scandal, IMO. But wtf do I know.

    Anyway, best of luck to you. I hope therapy brings you some comfort and resolution.

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    I think it is natural to be feeling all those things, Farrah--and a good idea to find someone to share it with so you're not alone with it there. I know it is a lot and that it must be a headache thinking about it all. But you know--you have a lawyer on board now, someone that you trust, and I think as long as you give him all the information you can let this go now, in your own mind, and find some peace and rest; it will take a certain course, and the only thing you need to do is, when needed, tell the truth about what happened. If you are not getting the results you want, the publicity idea is an excellent one: the reason I mention your attorney in this also is that it would be worth clearing with him first how to do it so that you don't create more legal problems for yourself. But it certainly would be effective.

    In the meantime you can work on your ideas for the future and make an effort to rest. You can do the yoga you love, and now you know, much more, how NOT to run a yoga center...think of all you've learned about this in the past few months, and about human nature! One day, all of us on SW will see our beloved Farrah teaching the world about peace. It will happen, I know it. All of this is an education that will stick with you, though I know it isn't much fun getting it.

    Hang in there, good lady. We're rooting for you here.
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    I think it's a great idea that you're going to get some counseling. Assault, in any form, is shocking...and you've been through a lot. You've been surrounded by people who just don't give a shit and who are more concerned with pissing off a raging queen than giving you what you need at this time.

    Having the support of your counselor will, I believe, give you some of the support you need during this time.

    Also, you need to sit down and write out the dates/times/events that have happened. I KNOW it feels that you'll never forget anything...but the truth is, you will. As time goes on, you'll start to forget the little details...and the little details can mean a lot. Get a notebook and log everything you can remember and do it NOW. I've worked for lawyers for a long time and I can tell you how many cases were lost, etc because witnesses could not remember what they saw/happened 1-2 years later. It's not about what happened, it's about what you can prove happened and how well the defense can twist it around. If you have everything written down and can refresh yourself before any depositions/testimony, the better off you'll be and the less likely anything will be twisted.

    So, get writing in as much detail as possible.

    And, take care of yourself.

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    Really sounds like great advice from Venus, and I think the process of writing will give you even more a sense of control over the situation, and some good perspective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dottie Rebel View Post
    I've never understood the "coverup" model of deflecting bad publicity in cases like this. In my line of thinking, they'd want to have this wacko arrested, kick him out of the program and spin any press that *might* surface so as to make them look like heroes for plucking this bad apple who managed to infiltrate their school. A coverup is a much, much bigger scandal, IMO. But wtf do I know.

    Anyway, best of luck to you. I hope therapy brings you some comfort and resolution.
    That's why I'm pressing charges because they won't do anything about him..He could really hurt someone else, if they upset him. I know he did what he did to me out of anger..It's that simple, it was like the therapist I spoke with said... If he'd hit me once MAYBE he could say it was an accident but, not 3 times ! She's helped me to get over it a bit more but, talking about it is so weird..I'm used to being there for other people and being everyone's rock.
    It's hard for me to handle what's happened because I feel like a victim and I don't like seeing myself as such. Anyway, thanks for your post and your concern
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    Quote Originally Posted by LilyLove View Post
    I don't have much to say that the others haven't already said, but I wanted to add that I hope things work out right for you in this situation. Stay as strong as I already know you are! Oh, and I hope that mean asshole gets what he deserves!
    Lily, I apprecaite you saying that..I was feeling like such a little weakling for a while.
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