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    Default Make Promises You don't intend to Keep!?(Rantish)

    This was advice given to me by a pretty high up staff member...

    I know that it is done(we all do to create the fantasy on some level), but I have never been in the practice of doing this in terms of sex favors out of the club and DEF not in the club. Too Much work in my mind(risk of vice cops, etc)...unless I am a bit tipsy at work and I have not been drinking at work, lately. However, I feel like in a world where extra girls abound and the floormen (who I consider low level pimps because they only help out the extra girls even if they are tipped) who shuttle them to the xtra seeking big spenders reign supreme...

    I was sitting with a athlete who asked me to sit with him. A girl comes over and intro's herself w/her real name while i'm sitting right there. Minutes later he asks me to leave and send her over. I am told by a security guy that floorman x sent her over. floorman x is known for big moneyextra seeking customers. Then off to the VIP they go...

    All last night I got shunned for not blatantly answering if I would let them whip it out and take care of it, have sex, go back to the hotel room all the ususal they thing we're prostitute stuff...It was interesting to watch who was able to then make the sale...so are they simply promising what they don't intend to fulfill??? I think I should chalk it up to just a bad night...first one in weeks...Because at the end of the day i am not willing to do, what i'm not willing to do...but i'm curious to know how much empty promising and to what extent is going on ladies?
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    You did the right thing. I think that some girls do hint at higher mileage to get guys in VIP, and some outright promise extras. Don't do it, even if you feel like you lose money because the low level pimps won't hook you up.

    Best case scenario, customer is pissed at your bait and switch and is disrespectful and handsy the whole time. After all, you said you can do so much more back there.

    Worse case, your customer is vice and you will be busted for prostitution. The cops/judge will laugh themselves silly when you say "you weren't really going to do anything."

    Or, the customer could get violent because he got ripped off.
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    I think it's a real shitty thing to do to rip someone out of their money like that. One girl at my club told me that she "promises them extras, but gets money up front because she really doesn't do anything", yet her customers always leave happy. Some girls may say that they only promise extras (that they don't do), but I think it's rare that a girl promises such a thing only to get back there and straight up rip him off.

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    I had the same thing happen to me the other night. Very few girls at my club perform extras, and those who do enjoy good money until they're promptly and permanently FIRED.

    A group of local businessmen were entertaining clients from London. The big money guy was looking for a girl who he could specifically finger and get a hand job, and wanted to get the same for his clients. I said "No one does that here, and someone who says they will is lying". He insists that for $400 an hour, he can get someone to do it. I said "Yes, hookers, but it doesn't happen here" He insisted fingering and hand jobs were not sexual and they did happen at my club. Yea, sure. You know my club better than I do. This guy was such scum, he kept trying to negotiate fingering "Maybe just a pinkie in your asshole?", trying to act like some big fucking man in front of his colleagues. I can't believe it. I asked him "Wouldn't you want someone to have fun with who's going to be honest about what's going to happen?" and like a drunk smart ass he answers he'd rather be lied to. Yea, right.

    Luckily, he and his friends ended up in VIP for a half an hour with three of the most boring and aloof girls in the club, and my hustle buddy and I got three hours in VIP with a very nice guy from the group, just the three of us. His friends gave us some trouble towards the end, trying to get Nice Guy out of the club. We made money, but the guy's friends were so obnoxious that they convinced him to stiff his drink tab and the waitress. A shitty time, overall. But we made more than the girls who promised extras and delivered nothing by being honest. The girls who promised extras were manhandled the whole time, one of them stormed out of VIP after one guy tried with some force to redeem the promise of extras.

    I'd rather be honest and make less. It's better than lying. Drunk guys get violent when they're ripped off. I don't understand why girls do this. Our club doesn't have a metal detector, could you imagine if you got shot or stabbed by some pissed off psycho for a few bucks?

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    Default Re: Make Promises You don't intend to Keep!?(Rantish)

    I NEVER lead club customers (or any other guys) to believe that they're going to receive more 'mileage' than I'm actually going to provide. On one level, doing this is false advertising. On another level, this is asking for trouble because nobody takes being 'ripped off' lightly. As Viola points out, leading on a customer who happens to be a psycho can be EXTREMELY dangerous !!!

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    Oh man Id be too scared that it would be undercovers! I know girls promise extras at my club BUT you can leave my club with the customer (to supposedly go to the casino) It costs $500 to the club and then the dancers 'fee' and ya just KNOW theyre going to a room somewhere.

    But what kills me is there are 3 brothels about 20 minutes away. Ive said this to guys but they insist they dont want a prostitute Isnt that what you want ME to do? Or they claim they were there earlier and all the girls werent their type. Just drink until they become your type...

    I MAY say all coy 'I cant make promises like that, what if youre a cop?'

    I never promise anything - but they *may* take that to be an admission towards extras. Ive yet to have a problem in VIP.

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    Our club is sooo famous for undercovers, I am really careful about what I say and how I say it. I never promise anything OTC, especially of a sexual nature, cause it would be my luck to get the cop. Guys ask me all the time to come back to hotel rooms and "give massages" or come to their house to do a "private dance" I know in alot of places private dance really means private dance but not here. All of that is beside the point, really. Even if it wasn't for undercover cops I STILL would not promise any of those things or especially do them. I have more self-pride, self-worth and believe it or not morals. I have a husband at home I would never even think about cheating on, for any amount of money. I am a stripper, not a prostitute. To me, if you do one extra OTC, you oficially crossed the line over from stripper to prostitute. The definition of a prostitute is someone who does sexual favors for money, right?
    Thanks for being you, and having some respect for yourself. It's these "extras" girls that have made it hard for people like us to make money.

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    I never understand this. Just recently at our club they made a big warning about making illegal promises. Apparently there's plenty of girls promising extras to get guys into the lap dance room or the champagne rooms, even though it's impossible to do any extras in our club(heavily monitored, guarded, etc.). So they promise guys extras knowing full well that they're not going to do them. I've always wondered: doesn't that leave a really pissed off customer? If you promise them extras and then don't deliver, wouldn't they be really irate? Howcome we never see this result?

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    I have said very vague things in the past, lawyer speak. I said "I do things back there that other girls don't do." Afterwards when he asked I said, yes, I stand on the couch and other girls don't. I don't do that anymore though. I'm 100% honest cause I don't want to deal with the whining and asking for more. A guy asked me a couple of weeks ago to touch it through his pants with my hand and I said, "I distinctly remember telling you that there were no hand jobs." End of discussion.

    In the OP's situation, I am guessing that most of the things being promised are being delivered, because in a really high hustle big dollar club like it sounds like you work in, the girls who make the big money go the extra mile and grease palms. The only thing you can do is try to get in with a bouncer and pay him extra to start making you some money. Or hope to have a couple phenomenal weeks on your own where you tip generously and get the ball rolling.

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    Default Re: Make Promises You don't intend to Keep!?(Rantish)

    yea, absolutely a bad idea.
    Some guy last night kept trying to get me to state with specifics what would go on in VIP and i told him that i just couldn't describe a VIP with me. I knew that all he was after was to hear that i would do hj/bj/other extras and i wont. I told him how he would leave very pleased and enjoy his time with me.

    He still pushed. "But i have to know exactly!" I still refused. I smiled, said, honey, there's a reason you haven't seen me all night; i've been in VIP, so that MUST mean i'm worth it.

    It worked. and he wasn't conned or ripped off, so i felt good about it. moral: you will not want to deal with a situation like that in the aftermath or during the dance.

    if you have such an issue with your club, find another one. lord knows there are plenty in nyc.

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    Thank You guys...I was beginning to think I was missing something...
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