




She seems like the stripperweb ideal to me. A woman who made some money stripping, put herself through college to gain several degrees, made herself into a business with acting, modeling, singing, whatever.
She isn't talking that bad to me. Maybe you guys need to get out more.
She's also over 30 and pretty damn fine.
I love her jawline
You can't love something you think is flawless - me





I think she's a little ashamed of her past stripping, because she keeps repeating that she "only did it on and off." And she says it was a "miniscule" part of her life. She is so defensive about why she did it.
"Had to do this, and had to do that" Come on, just own it.
I would be a lot happier about this if she hadn't actually been so, well, disrespecful towards strippers.
One of her main problem is that her ideas are scattered and she spats them out all over the place. She has a problem being articulate on camera because she is trying to hard. Which also equals into her either being fake or coming off as fake. When she does have those moments when she is letting herself out its better. BUT she needs to learn how to connect being articulate, expressing her thoughts in an intelligent way that also show her normal personalty.
Holla Chris Crocker!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fw1DQUbil4g
oooh ooh... she has a sense of humor!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t36D-SGzuoA
I have to wonder that if she was an SW member would you be saying," wow you're sooo pretty!!" because it seems everyone does that and then when they post a pic of someone noone knows everyone comments on how they think she's ugly even though there usually better looking then most of them.




She's definitely not bad looking, its the mannerisms and accent that turn me way the fuck off.
Guy #1: I'd totally hit that.
Guy #2: Dude, I'd hit that so hard whoever could pull me out would become the King of England.





It's turning you WAY off?
I'm ready to fuck IMO
You can't love something you think is flawless - me





I thought she was pretty and just needed a better colourist for her bleachy head.
Her personality did me nothing though.
It'd still maybe do her if we met at a bar. But I've been a horny freak lately. The dog cannot join.
Look like a woman
Think like a man
Act like a lady
Work like a dog
- My Great Grandmother Bessie's Recipe for Success





Stop being a speciesist.
You can't love something you think is flawless - me
She's failing to impress her audience.Whom exactly is she failing to impress? She's getting tv show appearances, acting jobs, modeling jobs, a recording contract, etc. Who is she failing to impress? Obviously what she is doing is working.
Judging by her use of the YouTube medium, she must value the YouTube audience. This includes the SW Hustle Haters. Though I am sure she's not holding her breath hoping everyone receives her message as she intended. Whatever that may be.I doubt she cares to impress stripperweb hustle haters.
She's successful in other venues and that is all fine and dandy. But her flop in this attempt to reach (guessing) Tyra's audience to convince them Tyra's the asshole suggests something different.It doesn't suck and it's not true. Her success proves it is not.
Most of us can say we do. We can also say that those people take extra time and consideration into the planning before a public appearance to make sure they take the actions necessary to ensure their point gets across and clearly to as many people as possible. Thusly proving that they are, in fact, smart.I know a lot of smart people who stutter, who aren't very eloquent, aren't good at public speaking, etc.
LOL. Haahahahaha
The fact is, if she's trying to reach the audience that she felt Tyra led in crucifying her, then she should take a long hard look in the mirror, and decide if how she is presenting herself would do so. I'm not even talking about dress. I would be much more impressed if she showed even the slightest inkling in PLANNING her talk. I'm not even talking about her dress.
She had a message that needed to get out that, in many ways, needed to be heard. In doing so, she not only made herself look worse, but she also strengthened the argument. I'd wager even more-so in the eyes of the people she's trying to convince that TYRA is the problem.
If she was trying to make men side with her because she looks extremely fuckable and therefor over look her inadequacies in this outreach attempt and make the men align themselves with the possibility that there are other women out there, like her, that they could get with, then: Mission Accomplished.
People are not ruled by their memories.
Sasha Grey who also was on tyray show also confronted her audience on youtube.
She tactfully expressed what Tyra's show did that mis represented her.
here is sasha on the show:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=BxUq_zzvAaA
http://youtube.com/watch?v=mYs2YfNlRBg
http://youtube.com/watch?v=06SHWu1ebc0
http://youtube.com/watch?v=RioTz9BarWU
here is her speech after:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=qFTEoBR215E
and a random interview
http://youtube.com/watch?v=dRDpXQYNQGo
Last edited by pookie; 10-31-2007 at 02:47 PM.
See..Sasha carries herself much better and says what she has to say in a mature fashion without resorting to dressing like a slut or name calling. Much better.
The problem is..if you want people to know you are smart....and you make a choice to speak publically..you should SOUND smart. You cant expect anyone to respect you if you are not eloquent or articulate and scream and name call like a child.
I respect Iliana for what she has accomplished, she is a beautiful woman....but she is not suitable to be the voice of a group.
Oh wow...I just looked at Iliana's page...
I didn't realize that the only thing necessary to be considered a movie star is to have had roles in skinemax films...
Don't get me wrong, I'm all about the erotic movies. But I'm quite sure now that she's full of shit, because she went on and on and on about all the movies she's been in and definitely meant to imply that they were "MPAA accredited" films.
I'm sorry, but I am not a fan of this woman...At all.
I wish that someone of Cameron or Jenny's caliber had been the guest on Tyra's show that decided to respond in kind. Tyra would have been in serious trouble then.
I think Sasha is awesome! I would do a porn with her...





That woman wouldn't have lasted a week at my college, which is ranked on about the same level as Berkeley. I can't see her making it 4 years there. I don't believe it.
Though I agree with her about Tyra being full of shit, she wasn't too impressive other than that.
You must have chaos within you to give birth to a dancing star.
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Free your mind, and your ass will follow.
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Oh, I'll agree with that, Cameron. But had you decided to make a YouTube vid in response, you would have *destroyed* Tyra, rather than making yourself look like a complete and total ass.





Post a video then
Going to college doesn't automatically turn one into a good public speaker.
That just sounds like ignorance to me. Watch some of her other videos. She is not THAT bad. Are you telling me everybody you went to school with had perfect pronunciation, never slurred, never used colloquialisms, never had a regional accent, etc?Originally Posted by djoser
I have a computer science degree and an MBA. I can't recall taking any classes that erased accents and even in the GE courses on "communication", most of the presentations given were lackluster. Most of the stuff focuses on how to research, how to organize writings and speeches, but not too many technical details on physically giving a speech or PR training.
My job involves a lot of public speaking(i'm a development liason and my job is specifically to bridge the gap between nerds and suits). I have been a toastmasters member for a long time and I can tell you, most of the people in there practicing their oratory are well educated people who feel becoming a proficient speaker will help them in their career(they are usually right).
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