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    In reading thru various threads, I see alot of ladies commenting that they don't like being touched during a dance. Ok, fine. Now I don't consider myself to be a groper by an means but if a hottie is sitting on my lap in the VIP and I am spending upwards of $$$$/hr, what else am i supposed to do with my hands? Sit on them? I don't go after the boobies or privates but my hands will wander to legs, ass, back, stomach as long as she doesn't indicate those are off limits. If they are off limits, I would respect that as well but then she better have something intelligent to say or our time will be short.

    My bottom line is this - unless you are drop dead gorgeous *and* an amazing conversationalist, I am not going to waste a few hundred bucks in the VIP unless there is some physical contact. If you are going to do nothing more than an air dance with no touching involved, I would just tip you at the stage.

    Am I being a douche?

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    What ever.....

    I fall into the category of girls that will allow anything as long as it's within both the legal limits and the clubs rules. I've worked at places that have no-contact VIP rooms and I've heard customers complain and whine that they have to sit on their hands. If they cut our time short, it's fine with me because I always get paid upfront.
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    Well, if the women you take to vip let you touch them, what does it matter what someone says on this website?.

    No, you're not being a douche asking this, you sound like the average guy at a strip club.

    Strippers who let you touch are often just tolerating it to get your money. Do you like all aspects of your job? Probably not, but you do it anyway, to get paid. There are dancers who don't mind, not all strippers are like the ones on this board.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zxcire View Post
    Strippers who let you touch are often just tolerating it to get your money.
    Yeah, we're really not that into it, or at least I'm not. Off topic, it absolutely shocks me how many men think we like it when they touch us during dances. It shocks me how into it they get!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zinaida View Post
    Yeah, we're really not that into it, or at least I'm not. Off topic, it absolutely shocks me how many men think we like it when they touch us during dances. It shocks me how into it they get!
    So here's the thing. I'm becoming a regular for this one dancer who allows some decent contact but it's an alcohol club so its fairly limited anyway. Now if she was put off by the contact I would keep my hands to myself but would still spend money on her anyway since i find her fun and engaging to talk to. I don't think there is any point in asking her how she feels about the contact since she will probably just tell me what she thinks i want to hear. I realize that contact is for the guys and the girls don't get anything out of it...

    Maybe I'll just sit on my hands next time and see what she says about it

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    Quote Originally Posted by parabol View Post
    I realize that contact is for the guys and the girls don't get anything out of it...
    Yeah, it's definitely a guy thing lol. And most men don't seem to understand that; that we're not as visually stimulated?

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    i am both a dancer and a customer and no, i don't think you're a douche. My customer side is saying there is no way i would pay hundreds to one girl unless there was plemty of contact involved. My dancer side is saying i don't particularly love the contact, but for those amounts i can do a damn good job of pretending to love it. Seriously, as long as the guys aren't horribly rough, it's not that bad.

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    This is my whole thing , its suppose to a show "a show" not a learning session . The dance should turn you on , yes BUT its a show a performance , ya know ? Its not the opening scene to Karma sutra on Broadway ......do you really need to touch ? Its like those little kids at the park who can't just watch the ducklings they have to chase them and ruin it for everyone .

    I think its normal to ask what you are asking and I don't feel its out of line , the above statement is just my opinion on the whole industry . Also there have been alcohol induce times when I wanted to be touch too and there was touching . Its normal for two people to be attracted to each other but my problem starts with the expecting , you wouldn't go on a date and expect something physical just because spent money , ya know ?? You may hope and want , you may also never ask that girl out again because you got none BUT you still date and respect someone else's feelings . As for the dancers IF you wanna be touchy or more thats fine in my opinion we are all human BUT don't do things for more money . If someone pays 300 for the hour and something happens whatever but don't do more because he is offering another hour .....thats when you become a prostitute instead of weak and human .

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    I am a regular type passive customer but I like the idea of touching as much as the next guy or girl. I have two techniques to determine if the dancer DESIRES any contact. Either one works. If neither one works, then I KNOW the dancer does not want any contact, and I would never touch her anywhere, but rather sit back and enjoy my dance(s)

    1. I sit with my hands on my knees and not touch the girl at all. If she straddles my hands then I know that is not off limits, and she would like some gentle touching there. If she grabs my hand and pushes it harder etc, then she wants more.

    2. I like to hold the dancers hand gently while she dances. If she places my hand somewhere, then she wants that.

    Ladies....what do you think? Any other customers ever try this?

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    Chances are it's not that she "desires" the contact in itself, but rather that she desires the money that enduring/allowing/encouraging the touching will bring. It's good that you let her lead the way with it though, and not find out the boundaries the wrong way I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lotsoffun201 View Post
    I like to hold the dancers hand gently while she dances.

    Ladies....what do you think? Any other customers ever try this?
    Well me personally, I hate when they try to hold my hand. It's too romantic for me. If I had a boyfriend I wouldn't really want to hold hands with him, let alone some stranger in a strip club lol.

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    Perhaps desires was not the best term, but rather allows or encourages is more accurate.

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    Even if she does not mind sitting on your hands, there is a fair chance that the bouncer will. Better to ask the rules before you buy the dance.

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    Oh I hate the hand holding thing ! Its so awkward , how are you suppose to dance while someone is holding your hand ? It makes it very hard and yes its also just strangely intimate ......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sindi View Post
    Oh I hate the hand holding thing... It makes it very hard and yes its also just strangely intimate ......
    Exactly. Besides, if it's intimacy that they crave why the hell are they at a strip club?

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    i like to hold the customer's hand. It can keep the hands from wandering too much. And the fake intimacy does make me money, from guys that are looking for that.

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    I think some dancers like it if done in a loving gentlamenly fashion. I had a dancer just walk up to me in a club recently and give me a french kiss out of this world. She then gave me her number and told me to call her and party with her off premises. She wanted to go to Ruth Chris Steakhouse. What do You make of this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by parabol View Post
    I realize that contact is for the guys and the girls don't get anything out of it...
    Doesn't this affect your mental attitude to a LD?

    When I first went into venues, and knew relatively little about a dancers *real* thought processes, I thought they were enjoying it as well.

    When reality struck, and I realised the only reason the great majority of dancers tolerated contact was their need to earn, I found the erotic effect of contact severely diminished.

    I notice the OP is new on this board - I wonder if his attitude wil change when he gets a regular dose of reality as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by liberator View Post
    I think some dancers like it if done in a loving gentlamenly fashion. I had a dancer just walk up to me in a club recently and give me a french kiss out of this world. She then gave me her number and told me to call her and party with her off premises. She wanted to go to Ruth Chris Steakhouse. What do You make of this?
    What do I make of it?

    I think you're going to get dancers queuing up to dispute your version of events.

    And now - bring on the picadors.....

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    Personally, I think asking a dancer what her rules are before a dance is in extremely poor taste. This is basically like asking her, how much can I get away with for my $$? Not only does that make you look bad but is insulting to the girl. If a dancer takes my hand and puts it on her somewhere, I know she wants to be touched GENTLY there. If she grinds into the back of my hand, then she wants some stimulation there.

    I make it a rule to always let the girl lead the way, and if I don't care for the dance, I politely decline the next one and thank her for her time. I have not once ever been told off by a dancer not ever.

    There are those that do and those that don't. One thing about the hand holding, I think it is a personal thing among various people, and lots of girls sit in the VIP and like to hold hands. I see it all the time

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    Quote Originally Posted by lotsoffun201 View Post
    Personally, I think asking a dancer what her rules are before a dance is in extremely poor taste. This is basically like asking her, how much can I get away with for my $$?
    Yeah, but it lets me know to be on guard or to go somewhere else to make my money. Ask away.

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    Huh. Here I thought asking for her rules at the start of the dance was a polite thing to do to ensure I don't apply general club rules to her which might not actually apply.
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    Quote Originally Posted by liberator View Post
    I had a dancer just walk up to me in a club recently and give me a french kiss out of this world. She then gave me her number and told me to call her and party with her off premises. She wanted to go to Ruth Chris Steakhouse. What do You make of this?
    She's a carnivore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by liberator View Post
    I had a dancer just walk up to me in a club recently and give me a french kiss out of this world. She then gave me her number and told me to call her and party with her off premises. She wanted to go to Ruth Chris Steakhouse. What do You make of this?
    Sounds like a hooker...

    Not that this has anything to do with the initial post but... you asked....
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    ^What Sophia said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by parabol View Post
    if a hottie is sitting on my lap in the VIP and I am spending upwards of $$$$/hr, what else am i supposed to do with my hands? Sit on them?
    I've been in plenty of situations where a lady is sitting on my lap and I'm not thinking about where not to touch and I'm not thinking about sitting on my hands. Place your hands or wave your hands where it's comfortable for both of you

    My bottom line is this - unless you are drop dead gorgeous *and* an amazing conversationalist, I am not going to waste a few hundred bucks in the VIP unless there is some physical contact.
    There you go. Then I advise you stay away from air clubs or less brilliant dancers if you want to do VIP. Simple.

    Am I being a douche?
    You're being unnecessarily complicated or explanatory. For anyone: if you're having a good time and getting your perceived value, stay. If you're not, leave.

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