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    Are they worth it? Is it going to be worth it to spend like $300-$500 on a personal trainer? Or can I get the same results by working out by myself??

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    Never used one, but I think they can be beneficial if you plan on using weights and don't want to hurt yourself. I know lots of ppl who have fucked up thier back by weight training themself.

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    It could be beneficial for you if you need someone there motivating you and staying on you about following your routine, or like Vy said, someone to spot you. I work out at the local YMCA and they offer 3 free personal training sessions when you sign up, and there's always someone stationed in the gym to clean the machines, make sure no one gets hurt, and spot people when needed.
    If you've never been shown the proper techniques for strength training and have no clue about what works for you, then see a trainer long enough to learn what you need to learn, then once you get the hang of it, do it on your own. Give a girl a trainer and she works out for a session. Teach a girl to train and she works out for a lifetime. <~~My shot at being deep.
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    If you get a good personal trainer than by all means are they worth some of the expense but you will find that all of the really decent trainers are usually involved with athletes as strength coaches.

    I'm a strength coach my self currently doing my masters and there is a wealth of P.T.s on my course the majority of whom I wouldn't allow to coach my worst enemy.

    Looking fors qualifications is a good stratagey but far from fool proof; look for c.sc.s. certified trainer with post graduate experience.

    Experience with professional athletes is a good pointer that they know what they are at, for the love of god don't let just any kid train you they can do you some real harm.

    There is a wealth of trainning information on the internet for anyone willing to look and read.

    www.t-nation.com has a section called MWA which I would recommenced as a good starting point.

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    Yes!! So worth it to help you achieve proper form, technique, motivation, advice, diet monitoring, etc. I'm keeping mine a few more months. Around the holidays I even want to up the training to 3x a week. Hopefully by next spring I will have the arsenal to be able to comfortably do it myself.

    But my form and results have been SO much better since starting with her. My body is learning how automatically hold the form correctly, with less active effort now.

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    V V V I agree with Irishmarc. I was a D-1 athlete for the past 4 years and I gained a wealth of knowledge from my strength coaches. Don't let some gym rat train you. Look at their credentials. Sport's related strength trainers can be worth their weight in gold.
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    Motivation is also a good point to look at if you are the sort of person that needs that extra push to get to the gym you could higher a personal trainer or get a motivated gym buddy.

    Nutrition is far from rocket science If you are looking for tailored nutrition it can cost a lot to get it form someone who actually will make a difference but can be well worth it ; the majority of PT just use cookie cutter solutions and are a waste of time.

    If nutrition is what you are looking for; look for some of the guys in the bodybuilding industry with a track record of working with competitors they are by far the best at what they do.
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    I've had a trainer 3 times now. Remember its easting right for you thats also makes a huge difference in your results. Its so worth it. You learn proper form, how far to push yourself, achieving what goals you have (ie. fat loss, strength, athletic training etc) and much more.

    Be clear in your goals with the trainer and they can help you get where you want to be. I recently dropped my trainer because I told him I do not want to bulk my legs. The next time he has me leg pressing 200lbs. So, be very clear of your goals and you can achieve them as well as gain knowledge of how your body reacts to certain workouts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TigersMilk View Post
    I've had a trainer 3 times now. Remember its easting right for you thats also makes a huge difference in your results. Its so worth it. You learn proper form, how far to push yourself, achieving what goals you have (ie. fat loss, strength, athletic training etc) and much more.

    Be clear in your goals with the trainer and they can help you get where you want to be. I recently dropped my trainer because I told him I do not want to bulk my legs. The next time he has me leg pressing 200lbs. So, be very clear of your goals and you can achieve them as well as gain knowledge of how your body reacts to certain workouts.
    There is a myriad of diffrent physiological reasons why lifting heavy weights will not make you have "bulky legs". Especially as a woman.
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    This is what the female body looks like after it has been subjected to an intensive weight training program and solid nutrition



    Notice the bulky legs...
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    If she has bulky legs then shit I'm a brontosaurus!

    FTR, you don't have my body Mac. At the time I was eating great, doing my cardio and lifting with him. I shrunk down but my thighs were starting to not fit in my jeans. Since I've stopped working so hard on my legs my thighs are slimmer.

    Also, FTR, females are all different shapes and sizes. I don't think you would understand unless you become one one day.
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    I like! That girl and I have the same hairsttyle! And not a dissimilar body type.

    What's her name? I'm not big on the "here's my model body picture" type of goal, but I think this girl might be a decent benchmark to strive towards.

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    I like! That girl and I have the same hairsttyle! And not a dissimilar body type.

    What's her name? I'm not big on the "here's my model body picture" type of goal, but I think this girl might be a decent benchmark to strive towards.
    Jamie Eason.

    She write articles for fitness articles as well, just google her name.
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    Yup, found her. Ok, I don't think I'm disciplined enough for THAT hot a body. But I'm sending her photos to my hairdresser so she can cut it like Jaime's this week! The color is already very close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TigersMilk View Post
    If she has bulky legs then shit I'm a brontosaurus!

    FTR, you don't have my body Mac. At the time I was eating great, doing my cardio and lifting with him. I shrunk down but my thighs were starting to not fit in my jeans. Since I've stopped working so hard on my legs my thighs are slimmer.

    Also, FTR, females are all different shapes and sizes. I don't think you would understand unless you become one one day.
    FTR, the reason your thighs where not fitting into your jeans is more than likely a result of high volume work (lunges, step ups ultra high repetitions with the "pink" weight") than you doing some decent weight with proper exercises like squats and deadlifts.

    The female body responds to resistance exercise via growth hormone due to the lack of testosterone it is the main mechanism that is used for adaptation. Lactic acid is the main trigger for GH which is induced by high rep work, not to mention the mechanical damage casue by high reps.

    In essence by performing what are touted as "tonnin" exercises in idiotic fitness magazines you are shooting yourself in the foot.
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    We didn't do step ups at all or lunges that often. We did leg ext., horizontal leg press, vert. leg press, ham. curls and some mixed in glute exercises. All of the leg exercises were 150-200 lbs doing 20-35 reps.

    Why are deadlifts and squats better than those listed above?
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    FTR, the reason your thighs where not fitting into your jeans is more than likely a result of high volume work (lunges, step ups ultra high repetitions with the "pink" weight") than you doing some decent weight with proper exercises like squats and deadlifts.
    I don't know about for the legs, but we do these with heavier weight and less reps, and FABULOUS things are occuring to my ass! As it should be. Always. If my ass is happy, the world is at peace.

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    Dead lifts and squats work the whole posterior chain (calves, quads, hammies, glutes, and lower back) instead of muscle-specific exercises like leg presses and leg extensions.
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    I've been toying with the idea of getting a personal trainer. It's only $25 a session at my school's rec center.


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    We didn't do step ups at all or lunges that often. We did leg ext., horizontal leg press, vert. leg press, ham. curls and some mixed in glute exercises. All of the leg exercises were 150-200 lbs doing 20-35 reps.

    Why are deadlifts and squats better than those listed above?

    HOLY SHIT! is it any wonder your legs where growing!

    20-35 reps is a huge amount of volume that can not fail but end up in your muscles having the stimulus they need to grow. The movement patterns he had you doing are terrible leg extensions, leg curls and the like have absolutely no carry over to real life and just place mechanical stress on your muscles, which again induces one thing hypertrophy (growth) stimulus.

    Deadlifts, Lunges, Squats, Step-Ups and the like are compound movements that have a carry over into real life wither it be to make you quicker on the track, or just make it easier for you to get around every day. Here is a short list why you should be doing Compound movements.

    1 - Metabolic Cost - Relatively heavy squats, deadlifts, lunges etc have a massive metabolic cost and burn calories like they are going out of fasion.

    2 - Carry over - by performing squats et al you are performing movement patterns you use in every day life overloading the muscles that you actually use in the way you use them will have a direct carry over and make you fitter, more robust and just feel a shit load better.

    3 - Knock on effects by doing squats and the like you are loading muscles like the abs, lowerback, glutes etc in the way they work in everyday activities which means you get more training benefit for your effort.

    Its late here and I have an i.q. of about 2 right now but the list is pretty much endless.

    You should be working in rep ranges from 1-12 with a decent load since it will result in an improvement in neural systems with minimal mechanical (muscles) effect making you stronger and all the good things that come with that minus the size.

    here is an awesome article - http://www.t-nation.com/readArticle.do?id=1305014

    hope I have been of some help I'll be of more use after I've had some sleep.
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    OMG, I love the outfit, the look, everything about this girl!


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    Holy shit that pic is hawt, Good find!
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    Quote Originally Posted by IrishMarc View Post
    HOLY SHIT! is it any wonder your legs where growing!

    20-35 reps is a huge amount of volume that can not fail but end up in your muscles having the stimulus they need to grow. The movement patterns he had you doing are terrible leg extensions, leg curls and the like have absolutely no carry over to real life and just place mechanical stress on your muscles, which again induces one thing hypertrophy (growth) stimulus.

    Deadlifts, Lunges, Squats, Step-Ups and the like are compound movements that have a carry over into real life wither it be to make you quicker on the track, or just make it easier for you to get around every day. Here is a short list why you should be doing Compound movements.

    1 - Metabolic Cost - Relatively heavy squats, deadlifts, lunges etc have a massive metabolic cost and burn calories like they are going out of fasion.

    2 - Carry over - by performing squats et al you are performing movement patterns you use in every day life overloading the muscles that you actually use in the way you use them will have a direct carry over and make you fitter, more robust and just feel a shit load better.

    3 - Knock on effects by doing squats and the like you are loading muscles like the abs, lowerback, glutes etc in the way they work in everyday activities which means you get more training benefit for your effort.

    Its late here and I have an i.q. of about 2 right now but the list is pretty much endless.

    You should be working in rep ranges from 1-12 with a decent load since it will result in an improvement in neural systems with minimal mechanical (muscles) effect making you stronger and all the good things that come with that minus the size.

    here is an awesome article - http://www.t-nation.com/readArticle.do?id=1305014

    hope I have been of some help I'll be of more use after I've had some sleep.
    Thanks, I'm going to share this info with another girl who had my trainer. Your link doesn't work though. Sorry for the threadjack. I'll have to give the others a try next time I'm in the gym.
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    Thanks, I'm going to share this info with another girl who had my trainer. Your link doesn't work though. Sorry for the threadjack. I'll have to give the others a try next time I'm in the gym.
    http://www.t-nation.com/readArticle.do?id=1305014

    Hope this works for you.
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    i HAVE A PERSONAL TRAINER, and it keeps me motivated.

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