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    Since she will likely be the Dem. nominee and has a better than even chance of winning the General Election it's time to seriously contemplate the type of person Hillary really is and the type of President she is likely to be. The following has nothing to do with policy. It has to do with the type of person Hillary is and why she would be an awful President.

    DISHONEST- Leaving aside the phony smile ; phony laugh and of course that shrill voice Hillary's history is one of blatant dishonesty. A woman who hired private investigators NOT to check up on Bill and/or document his infideliites but to gather dirt on and blackmail the women who he was involved with. Can't wait to see what she'll do with the FBI at her beck and call. Oh wait a minute ! We've already
    seen what that will be like. Remember all the improperly obtained FBI files from Clinton's first term ?
    She has failed to release ANY of her personal tax returns.Not just the one with her cattle futures trading profit.
    She has stonewalled on releasing her diaries and other records from her time as First Lady. What could she be hiding ?

    SHE's A USER- The McDougalls ; Webb Hubbell ; Vince Foster and on; and on.Neither she nor Bill care who gets hurt so long as they're left standing free and clear.

    Before anybody has a conniption-please read this part CAREFULLY. According to Michael Musto it is widely rumored that Hillary is a lesbian. A well-known lesbian is her constant companion and they reportedly room together on the campaign trail. Anybody with a problem- please take it up with Musto and The Village Voice.
    I couldn't care less whether or not it's true but it's in keeping with Hillary's character that she'd try to keep something like that under wraps. Eleanor supposedly had her own lesbian trysts and she IS Hillary's role model. And anyone married to Bill can do whatever they want to afaic. We've had gay governors, Senators and Congressmen and a celibate gay Mayor of NYC. Why not a lesbian President ? An honest and open one would be fine with me but that's not Hillary.

    ANGER- According to George Stephanopolous, Dick Morris and other former Clintonistas Hillary has a hair trigger temper and she is given to vicious personal attacks. She is renowned for throwing things at people including staff and Secret
    Service Agents. Not exactly the sort of cool level headed person we'd want carrying the football. And I mean THE "football". The one with the nuclear codes.
    Many former Clinton staffers and FOB's want no part of Hillary ( David Geffen and others) and are working for her opponents. They've seen first hand how she treated the White House staff.


    INSECURITY- Her latest debate performance and subsequent spinning merely illustrates how uncomfortable she must be in her own skin. To give two different answers to the same question in about a minute's time indicates someone without any real values or guiding principles not to mention courage of conviction.
    She'll do and say what she thinks is necessary to get herself elected.
    But HOW will she govern if she doesn't believe in anything other than obtaining power ?. Why does she stay with Bill ? He's been widely reported to be "dating" ever since recovering from his heart surgery and reportedly has a steady girlfriend. Their marriage is a sham.Doesn't she think she could get elected without Bill ? WHO is really going to be the President ? Him or her ?

    LACK of JUDGEMENT- Sandy Berger being brought on board merely illustrates Hillary's lack of judgement. The man stole Top Secret documents ; destroyed them and then lied about it. He avoided prison but lost his law license and his National Security clearance. WHAT is he advising her on ? How to secrete and/or destroy damaging and embarassing documents ? She already has one disbarred lawyer advising and helping her. Why two ? Berger's failures helped pave the way to 9/11. Why would she possibly want to listen to him ?. And why does she continually accept campaign contributions from Chinese criminals ? Who is vetting the Donor List ?.How could she politely and quietly sit next to Mrs. Arafat when she launched a vicious propaganda distribe against Israel ? How could she accept campaign contributions from the American Muslim Alliance ? Who was vetting the Donor List ? Why did it take weeks for her to return it ?.
    Many a member of Hillary's inner circle is reportedly genuinely worried about Bill. He's managed to keep his infidelities quiet while Hillary has been campaigning and he's been more careful and selective in choosing his partners (no more wide eyed interns ) but they're justifiably worried about what will happen if Hillary is elected and what the impact of the next scandal will be. Not if there will be a scandal but WHEN . As First Hubby he'd be much more high profile than he is now and would have continuous press coverage and his personal history demonstrates he is a serial adulterer lacking in serious self control.


    Leaving aside health care ; tax policy ; appointments ; Iraq etc. the foregoing is just the tip of the iceberg as to why I'd NEVER voter for Hillary and why I can't understand why anyone else would either.
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    re the bi rumors, perhaps this video isn't altogether unfounded




    as to insecurity, perhaps it is YOU that should start feeling insecure



    Actually, just think of all of the positive foreign policy developments if Hugo Chavez or Almenijad or Bashir Assad should suddenly get the urge to 'commit suicide' after Hilary takes office !


    the foregoing is just the tip of the iceberg as to why I'd NEVER voter for Hillary and why I can't understand why anyone else would either
    again this depends on the degree of selfishness one can live with. In that regard I'm tired of shipping off 44 cents worth of every tax dollar collected in New York to subsidize federally backed employment in other states. I say vote for Hilary and start sending Tennessee / Arizona / Texas federal income tax dollars back to New York to add a gazillion more public service jobs !

    Also from a foreign policy standpoint, NO candidate knows more about Chinese economics than Hilary ... (where's that sarcastic smiley ?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Stoner View Post
    Before anybody has a conniption-please read this part CAREFULLY. According to Michael Musto it is widely rumored that Hillary is a lesbian. A well-known lesbian is her constant companion and they reportedly room together on the campaign trail. Anybody with a problem- please take it up with Musto and The Village Voice.
    I couldn't care less whether or not it's true but it's in keeping with Hillary's character that she'd try to keep something like that under wraps. Eleanor supposedly had her own lesbian trysts and she IS Hillary's role model. And anyone married to Bill can do whatever they want to afaic. We've had gay governors, Senators and Congressmen and a celibate gay Mayor of NYC. Why not a lesbian President ? An honest and open one would be fine with me but that's not Hillary.
    Her sexuality is no one's damn business. Whether she keeps it under wraps or not, that's her personal choice and to reveal it openly would most likely be commiting political suicide. It's completely irrelevant to her character and her politics so I can't understand why you dedicated so much Hillary-bashing to this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie View Post
    re the bi rumors, perhaps this video isn't altogether unfounded

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Sudw4ghVe8


    as to insecurity, perhaps it is YOU that should start feeling insecure

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    again this depends on the degree of selfishness one can live with. In that regard I'm tired of shipping off 44 cents worth of every tax dollar collected in New York to subsidize federally backed employment in other states. I say vote for Hilary and start sending Tennessee / Arizona / Texas federal income tax dollars back to New York to add a gazillion more public service jobs !

    the video was something else, why did she do that in front of the children.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Stoner View Post
    She has failed to release ANY of her personal tax returns.Not just the one with her cattle futures trading profit.
    She has stonewalled on releasing her diaries and other records from her time as First Lady. What could she be hiding ?
    Are you kidding me? Again, no one's business but her own. Of course to publicize such documents would show a much greater level of honesty, but to deny outsider access to them is only normal. Do you think Bush or Cheney would be happy to fork over their diary and tax returns, nonetheless for the time they were NOT in the presidency/presidential cabinet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie View Post
    re the bi rumors, perhaps this video isn't altogether unfounded

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Sudw4ghVe8


    as to insecurity, perhaps it is YOU that should start feeling insecure

    http://home.earthlink.net/~mrnetwork/death.html

    Actually, just think of all of the positive foreign policy developments if Hugo Chavez or Almenijad or Bashir Assad should suddenly get the urge to 'commit suicide' after Hilary takes office !




    again this depends on the degree of selfishness one can live with. In that regard I'm tired of shipping off 44 cents worth of every tax dollar collected in New York to subsidize federally backed employment in other states. I say vote for Hilary and start sending Tennessee / Arizona / Texas federal income tax dollars back to New York to add a gazillion more public service jobs !

    Also from a foreign policy standpoint, NO candidate knows more about Chinese economics than Hilary ... (where's that sarcastic smiley ?)

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    Twer it only true. In seven years as Senator, Hillary has done NOTHING to staunch the fiscal bleed from N.Y. to the rest of the country and as President she's highly unlikely to do ANYTHING to change funding formulas on such things as Medicaid.
    Even if she wanted to, the Congress wouldn't let her. Besides, why would she ?
    Why would a born and bred Chicago suburb gal feel any real sense of loyalty to the Empire State ?

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    the video was something else, why did she do that in front of the children.
    actually, if you look closely, that's FEMALE children !


    Are you kidding me? Again, no one's business but her own. Of course to publicize such documents would show a much greater level of honesty, but to deny outsider access to them is only normal.
    no it's NOT normal for someone running for prominent public office ... and particularly so when that candidate claims electibility based on supposed past experience that the release of the secret documents would prove / disprove / shed an entirely different light on. Of course, some of those documents are permanently unavailable for release since they fell out of Sandy Berger's socks during his hasty exit from the National Archives !!! (damn, where IS that sarcastic smiley ?)


    Why would a born and bred Chicago suburb gal feel any real sense of loyalty to the Empire State ?
    ... because the majority of her corporate contributions are coming from New York based investment banks and hedge funds, and because the majority of her personal contributions are coming from poor Chinatown residents who are making maximum legal donations that they could never have afforded to pay for out of their own pockets (now I really need to find that sarcastic smiley !), and because the majority of the Illinois political 'machine' deserted Hilary for Obama early on ... a 'betrayal' that the Clintons and George Soros will never forgive nor forget !

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSexKitten View Post
    Are you kidding me? Again, no one's business but her own. Of course to publicize such documents would show a much greater level of honesty, but to deny outsider access to them is only normal. Do you think Bush or Cheney would be happy to fork over their diary and tax returns, nonetheless for the time they were NOT in the presidency/presidential cabinet?
    Normally I'd agree with you about Hillary's sexuality. I only pointed it out to show what a complete phony she is. The lesbian rumors go back to her days at Wellesley and were fodder for the rumor mills back in Little Rock. Btw, since she opposes gay marriage why isn't she just as much a hypocrite as Larry Craig ?

    As to her Tax Returns - She is a PRESIDENTIAL candidate and thus her finances are fair game. Why are you apparently willing to give her a pass on any financial hanky panky ?

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    Why are you apparently willing to give her a pass on any financial hanky panky ?
    It must be the precedents ... every grand jury since the Arkansas cattle futures all the way up to the California / NY Chinatown campaign contributions has given her a pass, and she has also gotten a pass from mainstream media in every case (now I seriously need to find that sarcastic smiley !)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie View Post
    actually, if you look closely, that's FEMALE children !




    no it's NOT normal for someone running for prominent public office ... and particularly so when that candidate claims electibility based on supposed past experience that the release of the secret documents would prove / disprove / shed an entirely different light on. Of course, some of those documents are permanently unavailable for release since they fell out of Sandy Berger's socks during his hasty exit from the National Archives !!! (damn, where IS that sarcastic smiley ?)




    ... because the majority of her corporate contributions are coming from New York based investment banks and hedge funds, and because the majority of her personal contributions are coming from poor Chinatown residents who are making maximum legal donations that they could never have afforded to pay for out of their own pockets (now I really need to find that sarcastic smiley !), and because the majority of the Illinois political 'machine' deserted Hilary for Obama early on ... a 'betrayal' that the Clintons and George Soros will never forgive nor forget !

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    Again. Twer it only true. Wall Street contributions and those ridiculous contributions from waiters and busboys do not equate into a policy quid pro quo that will benefit "little people" like you or me nor changes that would help New York as a whole. She will have a Congress to deal with and after 2010 it will likely be a Republican controlled Congress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie View Post
    It must be the precedents ... every grand jury since the Arkansas cattle futures all the way up to the California / NY Chinatown campaign contributions has given her a pass, and she has also gotten a pass from mainstream media in every case (now I seriously need to find that sarcastic smiley !)
    Of COURSE ! How silly of me ? How could I forget that little details like Campaign
    Finance Laws do NOT apply to the Clintons ? What was I thinking ?
    Thank you Melonie. I can always count on you to remind me of these little things.

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    Wall Street contributions and those ridiculous contributions from waiters and busboys do not equate into a policy quid pro quo that will benefit "little people" like you or me nor changes that would help New York as a whole.

    ^^^ yeah well you have to keep in mind that the trickle down theory applies to Democrats as well ... as in uber-rich New York bankers / brokers / lawyers with a big tit fetish !!


    in 'expert' financial terms, I believe that Hilary's policy has been described as 'privatize the profits' and 'socialize the losses'. I'm just waiting for some more of those 'privatized profits' to trickle down in my direction !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie View Post
    ^^^ yeah well you have to keep in mind that the trickle down theory applies to Democrats as well ... as in uber-rich bankers / brokers / lawyers with a big tit fetish !!


    in 'expert' financial terms, I believe that Hilary's policy has been described as 'privatize the profits' and 'socialize the losses'.
    Just one of many reasons why the woman is a SOCIALIST.

    Btw, why would Hillary appeal to anyone with a tit fetish ? A big ass fetish - no doubt. And those lovely pantsuits show it off so well. Lol.

    I know Mel. You're really talking about YOUR bottom line. Btw, who tips better - Republicans or Democrats ?

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    I know Mel. You're really talking about YOUR bottom line. Btw, who tips better - Republicans or Democrats ?
    It depends on the state ... in New York City it's definitely the Democrats since at the upper echelon level even the Republicans in New York are Democrats (even the mayor is changing party !). In Texas it's definitely the Republicans, since that is the one state where democrats are actually poor ! (I have simply gotta find that sarcastic smiley !)


    Just one of many reasons why the woman is a SOCIALIST
    correction ... a one-directional socialist. When things are good the profits only get shared among the rich elite and the officially 'poor'. But when things go badly the bills / debts should be shared by everyone ! After all she now has Chuck Schumer as her policy 'mentor' ...


    How could I forget that little details like Campaign
    Finance Laws do NOT apply to the Clintons ? What was I thinking ?
    Thank you Melonie. I can always count on you to remind me of these little things.
    a million here, a million there ... pretty soon you've bought yourself a whole passel of votes ! Bill's old Chinese donor connections seem to be coming in quite handy lately !!! Huo Huo Huo


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    ^^^ and in case there is any doubt as to the role of mainstream media re candidate coverage (or in this case non-coverage) check out ...

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    While I'd prefer another one of the Democratic contenders win the primary, she would be faaaar better for our country than another Republican. As Ed Schultz said on his show yesterday morning in response to a callers indecision about Hillary, "Just get a Democrat in the White House and stop trying to prejudge what will or won't happen".

    The focus of anyone in office will be far better for the average citizen as long as those Republicans don't get elected.

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    Good luck in here, Tina.

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    Ok, someone say something GOOD about Hilary?

    At this point, I am just observing this entire charade with amusement.

    The NWO/Trilaterlists/Rothschild Dynasty/etc have already chosen her vs. Rudy G. to continue the farce. I'm almost anticipating a quickening of the "Idiocracy" of this country....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katrine View Post
    Ok, someone say something GOOD about Hilary?

    At this point, I am just observing this entire charade with amusement.

    The NWO/Trilaterlists/Rothschild Dynasty/etc have already chosen her vs. Rudy G. to continue the farce. I'm almost anticipating a quickening of the "Idiocracy" of this country....
    It is breathtakingly ironic you would post that. The "Does anyone Really Like Hillary" thread has been up since April 10 and to date NOBODY has been able to write ANYTHING they like about HER.
    Policy positions ? - Yes.
    That she's married to Bill ? Of course.
    That she's a woman ? Right.
    But NOTHING positive about her ; her character ( tongue firmly in cheek ); her personality or anything she has actually ACCOMPLISHED.
    Nothing. Zero. Zip. Nada.

    Who saw to it Janet Reno and Jamie Gorelick got appointed ? Hillary
    And both were instrumental in leaving us unprepared for 9/11.

    Who drove the bus ( OVER A CLIFF ! ) on the Paula Jones Lawsuit ? Hillary.
    And that directly led to the whole Monica mess and Impeachment fiasco.

    Who won't release her diaries , e-mails and notes to Bill from her White House years ? Hillary
    And those are stored in a Presidential Library run with public funds and administered by the National Archives and are now the subject of no less than THREE separate FOIA lawsuits. Well she IS a lawyer and I guess she LOVES litigation.

    Who has NEVER released HER tax returns ? Hillary

    Who was responsible for the Rose Law Firm billing records fiasco ? Hillary.

    Who hired the P.I.'s to dig up dirt and trash and even THREATEN Bill's sexual victims ? Hillary.

    Who was behind the Lani Guenier nomination ? Hillary.

    Who tried to nationalize the health care system ? Hillary.

    Who favors driver's licenses for Illegal Immigrants ? Hillary.
    Why ? Because under "Motor Voter" laws they can VOTE. They just fill out a form; check the box that says they're a U.S. citizen and they can VOTE. If you want Illegal Immigrants voting in OUR elections- Hillary is your gal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tina View Post
    While I'd prefer another one of the Democratic contenders win the primary, she would be faaaar better for our country than another Republican. As Ed Schultz said on his show yesterday morning in response to a callers indecision about Hillary, "Just get a Democrat in the White House and stop trying to prejudge what will or won't happen".

    The focus of anyone in office will be far better for the average citizen as long as those Republicans don't get elected.
    As Melonie and I have pointed out ; it is us "average citizens" who will be paying the freight for all those wonderful new spending programs that Hillary wants to give us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie View Post
    It depends on the state ... in New York City it's definitely the Democrats since at the upper echelon level even the Republicans in New York are Democrats (even the mayor is changing party !). In Texas it's definitely the Republicans, since that is the one state where democrats are actually poor ! (I have simply gotta find that sarcastic smiley !)




    correction ... a one-directional socialist. When things are good the profits only get shared among the rich elite and the officially 'poor'. But when things go badly the bills / debts should be shared by everyone ! After all she now has Chuck Schumer as her policy 'mentor' ...




    a million here, a million there ... pretty soon you've bought yourself a whole passel of votes ! Bill's old Chinese donor connections seem to be coming in quite handy lately !!! Huo Huo Huo


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    Why do you think Hillary is fighting so hard to delay releasing HER White House papers ? Because she KNOWS that they will clearly show who and what she is and what she intends to do to this country if given the chance. Hillary is not stupid and she knows that this country will NEVER elect a SOCIALIST President. And that's exactly what she is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tina View Post
    While I'd prefer another one of the Democratic contenders win the primary, she would be faaaar better for our country than another Republican. As Ed Schultz said on his show yesterday morning in response to a callers indecision about Hillary, "Just get a Democrat in the White House and stop trying to prejudge what will or won't happen".

    The focus of anyone in office will be far better for the average citizen as long as those Republicans don't get elected.
    On top of everything else Melonie & I have cited here's another important reason NOT to vote for Hillary.
    She has singlehandedly set back Women's Fashion and repopularized POLYESTER !!!!

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    Hillary is not stupid and she knows that this country will NEVER elect a SOCIALIST President. And that's exactly what she is.
    ...well we elected a fascist and nobody thought that would happen either.

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    As Melonie and I have pointed out ; it is us "average citizens" who will be paying the freight for all those wonderful new spending programs that Hillary wants to give us.
    ....and we all know how unbiased you and Melonie are don't we???

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    Socialist > fascist anyday.

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