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    Okay this can get heated. Lets leave the bitchyness at the door for this thread.

    A recent discussion on another forum has my mind going.

    How do you view stripping? It seems a lot of girls believe that stripping is not part of the sex industry.

    Personally I believe that we are all the same, just different levels of the industry.

    It really irritates me when strippers call escorts dirty nasty whores.

    Im sorry but the line between escorting and stripping is a very thin line.

    Do we not get naked nightly and rub our naked bodies all over strangers? Are we not grinding on random mens cocks nightly?

    Okay maybe if you work in a no contact club it is a bit different. For the most part though contact dancing isn't too far off.

    Now i've worked contact clubs, I have at one point been an 'extras girl'. I am now a prissy little air dancer(though if I have to I can handle the grinding/boob touching thing), so im not saying that there is anything wrong with contact dancing.

    Im not really sure where im going with this. I'm just slightly irritated at this thread on another forum and trying to piece my thoughts together on it.

    How do you feel about this?

    Again please girls no flaming each other. Lets keep this civil.

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    I agree with you. It's like a slutty pot calling a promiscuous kettle a whore.

    People who dance in glass whorehouses shouldn't throw stones - har har I made a funny.

    Anyways, I have no problem with escorts/hookers/prostitutes - they do a job the same as everyone else.

    Usually the girls who act the prissiest about contact are the biggest whores! Projection, you know?

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    Stripping is totally a part of the sex industry! We're selling sex, just not in the traditional sense like an escort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Callyish View Post
    It really irritates me when strippers call escorts dirty nasty whores.

    Im sorry but the line between escorting and stripping is a very thin line.

    Do we not get naked nightly and rub our naked bodies all over strangers? Are we not grinding on random mens cocks nightly?
    And if you prick us, do we not bleed? Um, I mean, with needle.
    Of course stripping is part of the sex industry. We sell sexual gratification or stimulation - even if you are a prissy air dancer.
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    I don't care if you're behind glass; if your intent is to titillate, you're in the sex industry.

    Cally, are some of the Canadian features claiming that they aren't? Maybe that's what they need to tell themselves, huh? Even Dita von Teese says she's in the sex industry and there aren't any features that come close to the sort of elaborate work she does.

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    I've not worked as a stripper yet, so here's a "vanilla" view:

    My feeling is it's part of the sex industry. I really don't care what anyone does for work as long as they aren't harming others and take 100% responsibility for their lives.
    "She held me close and whispered in my ear how wonderful I was. Since I'm not wonderful. I was pretty sure this was a trap. So I figured I'd better grope her as much as I could before they sprung the trap. You've got to take what you can get in this life. I read that in a magazine. So I started smearing kisses on her and pawing the front of her dress, trying to get my money's worth before somebody bashed my head in." John Swartzwelder

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    Default Re: Stripping = Sex Industry NO FLAMING!!!!

    i have no problems with escorting. i see stripping as adult entertainment/sex industry.

    however... when a girl comes in my club posing as a stripper but is really making connections to make into tricks then FUCK NO. i don't think that's cool at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ViolaStrings View Post
    Usually the girls who act the prissiest about contact are the biggest whores! Projection, you know?
    So true.

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    i'm not judging any of the hookers, since everyone's comfort level is different, but as a stripper, i don't sell sex, i sell an illusion, and my game doesn't focus on the grinding/touching part of it, but the mental fuck instead, so: -no

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    At the risk of being a male sticking his head into SG, I think you ladies need to agree on a definition of what the sex industry is first. Is it:

    (a) Providing sexual stimulation by heavy grinding, extras, etc.

    (b) Providing sexual stimulation via nudity.

    Option (b) sets the entry point for Stripping = Sex Industry significantly lower than option (a).

    FWIW, I regard dancers that shade towards (b) more as erotic entertainers than sex workers.

    Tiptoes away....

    Phil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saphire123456 View Post
    i'm not judging any of the hookers, since everyone's comfort level is different, but as a stripper, i don't sell sex, i sell an illusion, and my game doesn't focus on the grinding/touching part of it, but the mental fuck instead, so: -no
    But you are selling the illusion of sex. Are you not going around the club each night convincing guys they want to see you naked and touch you and have your naked body all over them? You are making them want you and they are going to want you in a sexual way. No you are not physically fucking them but you are making them wish they could and you are doing it for money which makes it selling sex. Its just a different level of sex. Stripping is the sex industry.

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    Selling actual sex and selling the illusion of sex are totally different, but still apart of the adult entertainment / sex industry.

    I agree that the escorts should stay out of the clubs. I hate clubs that are just a front for a brothel.

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    i don't think there are "different levels of sex" you either A. have it for money, or B. don't

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corgan View Post
    i have no problems with escorting. i see stripping as adult entertainment/sex industry.

    however... when a girl comes in my club posing as a stripper but is really making connections to make into tricks then FUCK NO. i don't think that's cool at all.
    Then she's not a stripper. She's a hooker posing as a stripper and in the wrong place. Both, to me at least, are part of the sex industry. Both escorts and strippers rent their bodies and time in order to arouse the buyer. Escorts sell the illusion they actually like being with clients. Same with strippers.
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    We think escorts are whores because they fuck two guys a night, escorts think we're whores because some of us nearly fuck 50 guys night.

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    Maybe its because i've worked at clubs that have prostitutes working as strippers but honestly I could care less if a prostitute is in the club working as a stripper and happens to hustle a few guys for OTC meetings as long as they are not doing any extras in the club. They follow club rules, happen to decide to meet a customer at a hotel later on in the night.

    Customer is still there spending money on dances and he gets to 'finish' it off later.

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    Omg I work in the sex industry!! someone help me!! I am a dirty nasty female!

    But seriously, there is a place for everything, we flaunt our assets and we sell
    the illusion of sex just not sex itself.

    There is a place for everything. If you want to be a prostitute then go where it is legal, I am against free range prostitution. If you want to be an escort be an escort honestly it would be safer for escorts to work at a brothel.

    If you want to be a dancer then be a dancer, if you want to work in film and have
    sex on film then go work in the adult film industry. No matter what work is work
    and with the economy being so fscked in the US right now any job is better than
    no job at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corgan View Post
    i have no problems with escorting. i see stripping as adult entertainment/sex industry.

    however... when a girl comes in my club posing as a stripper but is really making connections to make into tricks then FUCK NO. i don't think that's cool at all.
    Right. This *is* hurting individuals. It hurts the money of the actual strippers because, well, consumers don't know what the hell they want, and a woman is then stringing them along by doling out a "greater prize" (in the eyes of society) for similar money. Unacceptable.
    "She held me close and whispered in my ear how wonderful I was. Since I'm not wonderful. I was pretty sure this was a trap. So I figured I'd better grope her as much as I could before they sprung the trap. You've got to take what you can get in this life. I read that in a magazine. So I started smearing kisses on her and pawing the front of her dress, trying to get my money's worth before somebody bashed my head in." John Swartzwelder

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    Quote Originally Posted by saphire123456 View Post
    i don't think there are "different levels of sex" you either A. have it for money, or B. don't
    But to some people lap dancing is foreplay which leads to sex is it not?

    Im not trying to make anyone change opinions I just think this is an interesting discussion to see different peoples thoughts on this.

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    Cally, escorts posing as strippers take money out of the club. Out of your pocket.

    Girls, you can't sell sex unless you are offering intercourse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TigersMilk View Post
    Cally, escorts posing as strippers take money out of the club. Out of your pocket.

    Girls, you can't sell sex unless you are offering intercourse.
    Not really. I mean if the guy wants to see a girl OTC hes going to see a girl OTC. Hes still spending money on dances(this has been my experience with the matter anyway). A lot of the times these customers will come to the club and get some dances as a 'warm up' then see an Escort. So what if the escort happens to be a girl he met ITC? He was going to do it anyway.

    So are you saying that stripping is not the sex industry? I mean we are offering a form of what many view as foreplay which behind closed doors would be sex... it may be an illusion but its still sex when it all comes down to it just its without the intercourse.

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    Sex is intercourse. Thats what sex means. I still stand by what I said being that I view strippers as part of the sex industry. We sell the idea of sex. They see titties, a flirty girl, or get a lap dance they begin to think of the idea to have sex.
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    hmm... well i don't think "foreplay" still qualifies as sex, so therefore i can't agree with being clumped into a sex-worker category, i see girls do more at the clubs for free then what happens on my lapdances, and that doesn't make them sex workers. i sell the illusion that i like you and would want to have sex with you, but i dont think that qualifies me as a sex worker, since once again there is no actual sex

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    Quote Originally Posted by saphire123456 View Post
    i'm not judging any of the hookers, since everyone's comfort level is different, but as a stripper, i don't sell sex, i sell an illusion, and my game doesn't focus on the grinding/touching part of it, but the mental fuck instead, so: -no
    Well... I'm not sure what you mean by "illusion". I don't sell an illusion. I don't sell sexual intercourse either. I sell sexual stimulation - and I'm stimulating the guy whether I'm a foot away or on his lap. I mean the sex trade is, you know - trade in sex and sexual stimulation. It doesn't mean that we all do the same things, just that we are in the same industry.

    And to say that there are no "levels" to sex seems silly. Like at what point is it "sex" then? And what is all the stuff that comes before sex, and if you are doing that for money, what are you?
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    And to say that there are no "levels" to sex seems silly. Like at what point is it "sex" then? And what is all the stuff that comes before sex, and if you are doing that for money, what are you?[/quote]
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