I'm thinking of doing a shoot with this company, specifically sexandsubmission.
Anyone work with these people and do you have advice for me?




I'm thinking of doing a shoot with this company, specifically sexandsubmission.
Anyone work with these people and do you have advice for me?
yup. woked for them for YEARS. Go to models and look up my name.
Nothing good to say except they pay really well. They were the best a few years back but i wont work for them now.
Also check out my girlfriends site chantasbitches.com (she used to work for kink) She also has a sex site like that one.
Shes in oakland and will work around kinks schedule to shoot you when kink flys you out or will fly you in. If you work it right you can make $5k in a few days between the 2 sites
Oh, do NOT work with Princess Donna no matter how much money they offer. It is NOT WORTH THE PAIN. ive heard nothing good about her. I actually got her hired. stupid
Good luck!


That's good to know. We met Princess Donna at FetishCon a few years back, and she seemed nice enough...of course, how people present themselves at trade shows may not be the best way to judge how they will act when they have you tied up :-)
My partner briefly considered applying to shoot with them a while back...she was having fantasies of Mark Davis tying her up and doing her. Since she's not into pain at all (just bondage, D/s, and forced sex), it sounds like it's a good thing she reconsidered.
Thanks for the report...
Lynn
P.S. We *like* Chanta...been to a couple of her classes and she is a doll!
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I love Chanta... shes one of my very close friends.... shes the only one that can keep me in the industry. I just love her... and the girls got some serious strength. Shes been through a lot the last few years....
Marc Davis - I worked with him a LONG LONG time ago...
The 5k would be a mix with Chanta and Kink...
Have I worked with Chanta?! hehe... of course I have! Look up Audrey Leigh on Kink.com (I worked for them when she was a webmaster there) and check out my name on Chantas model list.
Im a domme for her. Maybe you could set up a shoot with me!!! Im a nice domme! I promise!
Note: Last weeks update on was ME!
^ ooh, you beat up Madison Young! I'm gonna download that![]()
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Cool, thanks Audrey. I'm going to check out your shoots now
Could you clarify as to why you have "nothing good to say" about them and won't work with them now? Are they too demanding/flaky? I'm curious...
No. I just have personal issues with them. I have heard from girls who love them and others who hated working with them. I loved working for them but thats when they were a small company who treated everyone great.
I was offered the webmaster position for Wired Pussy (that Princess Donna runs) but didnt take it because by that time the company had turned nasty. Horrible hiring/firing practices. Just unfair. I didnt like that. And believe me - the position paid VERY VERY WELL.
Id say start out doing the sex and submission and maybe Ultimate Surrender... after you do those if they want to re-book you for others you CAN negotiate higher rates. They will pay them because with you they dont have to pay a $100 managers fee.
Device Bondage shouldnt be too bad either and Hogtied. Oh and FuckingMachines (if they still have that site, very easy)
Def say NO to Princess Donna.
Check out John at - hes a good friend of mine. Been shooting with him for years too... I think he has a sex site but his bondage ones arent too bad... like if youre not a pain whore hell work with your boundaries (not mine because I used to be a pain whore so he loves to torture me!)
Hmm... me thinky I should call John for a shoot........
Depending on where you live john will fly girls in to LA and put them up in a hotel, shoot for the sites and send ya home.![]()


I used to subscribe to one of his sites (PerfectSlave.com, the bondage, vibrator, forced orgasm site). It has a nice look to it (and a beautiful opening page, after you get past the obligatory 18 USC 2257 page). It has a different look from the kink.com sites. It doesn't have that "scary basement" look that the kink.com sites all have. It might be a better site for girly-girl types (unless you are into heavy objectification).
I hope he updates his "Philosophy" page on the DungeonCorp site soon. I would think it would be more comforting for new models to go to that page and read what his philosophy about this is, rather than "The Philosophy Page is under Construction".
Yea, Perfect Slave was his 2nd site. Its made more for sexy porn girls doing first time bondage rather than SocietySM which is the hardcore site. Altho the shoot I did for Strict Restraint last summer was my hardest shoot yet! When they melted wax with a torch it hit me in a sensitive spot and I screamed so loud and got soooo mad. They asked me if I want to stop. Hell no, just to get BACK into the position and do it again?! Ill just grin and bare it and I did. I think thatll be a fin great update when it gets put up.
Ill ask him about the philosophy page - i didnt even know he had one... I just emailed him so i may mention it when he writes back.
Most likely ill end up helping write it!![]()
Holy crap, that's awesome!! I just saw the update, looks like I'll be watching it later if you know what I mean lol
I may actually start talking to my husband more seriously about it, and if I do, I'd love to set up a shoot with youI just asked him if he had seen you on the site and he goes "yeah, she's only the finest woman on the whole site.."
Awww... tell him I said thanks!hehehe....
This may be a bit off-topic, but for those of you who have done, or know models who have done, bondage type modeling: how long does it take to recover from the bruises and other marks? Have you ever known of a model regretting it based on any physical changes to parts of her body?
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Not from a model standpoint but from someone involved in the BDSM scene:
There shouldn't be any permanent damage done from bondage or pain play, unless you're talking scarification/piercing/other body mod. Getting flogged leaves marks that fade anywhere from a couple of hours to a couple of weeks, depending on the severity and the person's skin type. I've played with devil's fire (red hot needles) and violet wands, and the heavy marks last for a week or two (after all, they are burns).
Bondage should not have any aftermath except perhaps stiffness; it's important to stretch first, just like with dancing, and to know your body's limits and stop when your body needs you to stop. You can really get hurt if you ignore that information, or if you aren't in good shape and yet still try to be in intense bondage situations that your body is just not prepared to do. But I've personally never known anyone who pushed themselves too far and had lasting damage because of it.
Only once have I had marks that lasted 2-3 weeks. I had freaking welts. This was my FIRST BDSM shoot for Whippedass.com and I didnt know I could say to stop at that time. The companies I work for they dont really leave marks because the girls have to do other shoots the next day or whatever. UNLESS youre really into it and dont mind - then you can have some harsh marks for a little while.





I was mostly just in tight rope so I'd have welts for a couple of hours maybe. Scissors were always handy to cut the rope quickly just in case I went numb or worse.
It was fun and dare I say therapeutic. I was such the control-freak at the time - submitting to getting tied up and losing control kept me even.





What do you think of the purchasers of this kind of stuff?
addtn.
To me it is about exploitation of one over another, even if it is just in play. Somehow that concept has always angered me, even as a kid. So I just wonder about the true nature of those people, outside of the play.
Last edited by threlayer; 12-21-2007 at 11:59 AM. Reason: addition, marked above
I loved going to strip clubs; I actually made some friends there. Now things are different for the clubs and for me. As a result I am not as happy.
Customers are not entitled to grope, disrespect, or rob strippers. This is their job, not their hobby, and they all need income. Clubs are not just some erotic show for guys to view while drinking.
NOTE: anything I post here, outside of a direct quote, is my opinion only, which I am entitled to. Take it for what you estimate it is worth.




lol. serious tho. i love the stuff. but i will be honest. when i first started it was for the money. then it got to a point where straight sex was nothing. i needed that hc stuff. i need choking and holding down and blah blah blah. im a freak.





I loved going to strip clubs; I actually made some friends there. Now things are different for the clubs and for me. As a result I am not as happy.
Customers are not entitled to grope, disrespect, or rob strippers. This is their job, not their hobby, and they all need income. Clubs are not just some erotic show for guys to view while drinking.
NOTE: anything I post here, outside of a direct quote, is my opinion only, which I am entitled to. Take it for what you estimate it is worth.
^^I have no idea what you're talking about. You seem to be fishing for a specific answer so why don't you just tell us what you want us to say?
Not known anyone w/ regrets along those lines and I've known several girls who do this sort of modeling or are just in the scene. Only regret I've heard is about girls who didn't bring escorts to new shoots! Healing time varies a great deal from person to person. Very fair colored people tend to bruise longer. I'm like the fucking princess and the pea, thank god I'd generally rather dish it out. Caning can leave some pretty severe marks for a while.
Agreed on all points, with bondage the biggest concern is probably cutting off the blood flow.
Grr, the photographer should have told you.
This is hot! Also not that freaky in my experience at least.
Sometimes it's nice to ease back and be vanilla though. Variety being the spice of life and all that.
They're all going to heck when they die!!! Rawr!
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