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    Default Will the enviros,

    just fade away by not reproducing? Seems silly to me, as in anyone of a half dozen third world countries, is just reproducing without even the means to feed the ones already born.

    anyhoo linky.

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    Just the radical ones.

    For some nonradical (except that it is sorta radical) news, 2007 is on track to be the warmest year on record. 2006 and 1998 would be in a virtual dead heat (snort) for second place.

    For some anti-"enviro" logic, how about the fact that up until recently, the denial syndrome was in full force for global warming at all. Heavy reliance on nonscience, antiscience, and junk science.

    Now that everyone's pretty well on the same rails with warming, the denial syndrome is still in full force for human causes as a contributing factor. This is despite the fact that the curve of warming roughly corresponds with rate of industrialization, not to mention billions of tons of carbon formerly locked up in oil, coal, and natural gas that is now floating aboveground.

    But no worries here. I'll try to continue being a reasonable (but not exemplary, sorry) steward of resources. In the past, the planet has both been much colder and much warmer than it is now, and it's managed to go on. If we don't want to follow the laws of nature and keep fouling our nest, we'll have to deal with the consequences. If the consequences are our misery, that's what we've earned.

    Incidentally, I consider being a "reasonable" steward to include such things as conscientious recycling, energy conservation, picking up after myself, and supporting green technologies when affordable. Feel free to marginalize or polarize that behavior, but it seems pretty common-sense to me.

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    I love how people assume that all their kids are going to share and perpetuate their political beliefs. I've heard a lot of anti-abortion folk insist that the pro-choice movement will die out in a generation or two, because obviously no pro-choicers have kids and all kids who are raised by anti-abortion parents will grow up to be anti-abortion zealots too.

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    Default Re: Will the enviros,

    **Nihilism Alert**

    My husband and I call ourselves "extinctionists". We're choosing to end our lines by not reproducing for a variety of reasons. I don't care what happens to the world after we leave. Or while we're here for that matter. Seriously, let it implode. I don't give a shit.

    Save the world? Why would you want to do that?

    Also, I agree with Yek. That's just laughable. "Oh--we want to have kids so there'll be some people with our beliefs left behind after we're gone." How naive.

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    Default Re: Will the enviros,

    there's pro-choice zealots, same as pro-life ones.

    as far as having kids with one's beliefs goes, if ChristianConservative Jenny has 5 kids, and only 3 share most or all of her beliefs (closest to actual likelihood); and LiberalProgressive Betty has one kid who shares most or all of her beliefs, guess which set of memes continues propagating in society?

    radical progressives are just way less likely to have children at all, and since propagation of beliefs is mostly a numbers game, those who are most likely to have 3+ kids are most likely to have at least one or two who share at least some of their beliefs and then proceed to also have 3+ kids themselves.

    it's not a naive belief, except for the part where they think ALL their kids will share ALL of their beliefs. it is more likely that SOME will share SOME of their beliefs, enough that some of their kids will have 3+ children themselves.

    and that's true with progressives, too, who think their ONE kid will make SUCH a difference using THEIR beliefs that they don't really need to have more. different kind of naive arrogance, but one with more risk for their own beliefs.

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