When money is not an issue? Good lord! I have no words.
Your reponse was *perfect*.
When money is not an issue? Good lord! I have no words.
Your reponse was *perfect*.




I agree, what you said is perfect. Too bad he had to be such a dense ass.
Good girl. Don't let the guys on that site push you around. They've gotten to thinking too much of themselves...
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What an idiot.... you said he has experience with dancer so most likely he knows you want him to pay you and he doesnt want to give you money for dinner.




What a dumb f*ck, just totally blow him off then! Yeah, when money's not going to be an issue. Ummm.......HELLO, you dumb idiot, money's always going to be an issue, are bills just going to magically stop coming? These stupid customers just piss me off big time sometimes thinking that we've got nothing better to do.
You totally did the right thing and handled it well and gracefully! You handled it way better than he deserved!!! He deserved a nice little smack as to wake him up.
Thanks ladies - I just have to say this actually shocked me because he had been really decent up until now. He had always come in on days he said he was going to, spent money, never bitched about contact, even brought me a present from a recent trip he took.
He is really intelligent about some things too.
So this was a weird wake-up call. Oh well. What does he expect? That some stripper/(he thinks single) mom is gonna just volunteer her free time to have dinner with customers from the club? Duuurrr. What a cheap-ass.
hopefully he'll still come sppend $$ on you itc.





Seriously! At least he could offer to pay for the sitter. Being a mom regardless of marital status is very time consuming. I have no idea how his brain works on that one. With sitter fees and time spent away from child = costly. You almost wanna beat him upside the head saying "helllo anything in there!!".
you live like an ivy vine
you can only survive by clinging onto trees
that's your flaw
put down some roots so you can stand on your own
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I'm in a very similar predicament.
Well of course you would...HE is differant. You really LIKE him....it isnt about the money. You would just love to have dinner with him because he's such a swell guy and you guys have a "connection".
I mean...you wouldnt be talking to him JUST because of the money right? Thats not what strippers do....we are looking for our own personal Prince Charming and apparently ...he is yours. Lucky lucky you



^^That must have been even more frustrating.
So an update - this guy has been history since the end of our text message garbage. I think I could have "fake apologized" and he would have come back and spent money but I couldn't stand the way he was treating me, refusing to acknowledge I was worth the money. If all he was worth was a hundred or so and wanted to make things mentally taxing, I'd rather just not deal with him at all.
He showed up at the club the next week, sat there with a smirk on his face and I completely ignored him. It felt so good too.
hah! good for you! I bet he feels dumb now. He was probably expecting you to say sorry and ass kiss, and now he's probably regreting the way he treated you!
I say, "of course I will go to dinner with you. Your are a respectful guy and I know you will compensate me for my time."
I think that will even work after the fact somehow.
oops, i am guilty of not reading all before posting.





Well of course you would...HE is differant. You really LIKE him....it isnt about the money. You would just love to have dinner with him because he's such a swell guy and you guys have a "connection".
I mean...you wouldnt be talking to him JUST because of the money right? Thats not what strippers do....we are looking for our own personal Prince Charming and apparently ...he is yours. Lucky lucky you
there you go ... this guy was expecting you to go out with him by your own personal choice i.e. a private life 'date' rather than a club generated business transaction. It's actually fairly lucky that this 'regular' fell by the wayside early on ... because custy's who have delusions about becoming 'emotionally significant' in dancers' private lives only get more problematic (and sometimes dangerous) if the dancer allows their delusion to continue or grow stronger.
I'll remember this for next time. Thank you - what a great way to put it!
I think he was somewhat emotionally vested in a relationship long before we met, meaning he wanted to have a relationship with SOMEONE in the club and that's what his goal is with getting dances. He told me the first day we met that he doesn't get dances from girls who have boyfriends or are married. So I had to lie from day one just to get any kind of money at all. He wasn't the type to want to take care of a woman,but rather invest a little and then if she doesn't take the bait, he'll move on. It's very sad because I know he's been coming in for years.
Advice from a customer:
You should charge a customer $50 per hour for a dinner date. You will meet the customer at a public resturant. There is no going to his place or yours! You should drive to another location and take a taxi to the resturant.
There is no law that prevents exotic dancers from making money being paid dates to guys. This is a vehicle for dancers to make money in the entertainment business!
so if a guy were to take you out to dinner and they ask "well how much were you looking at? " what would be a normal price? ive had the aswer " well what were you thinking?" whats a good number of not asking too much but i still want to leave thinking it was worth my time?





The answer is, very simply, what you think you're worth.
I think for dinner; I'm worth about $300.![]()
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Think like a man
Act like a lady
Work like a dog
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These guys are internet rats. They spend years reading Zbone, aspd, etc, trying to figure out an "angle." At least he told you yours. He knew exactly what he was doing. He has a stripper fetish, and thinks that strippers are somehow different. Perhaps he's had a few dumb hos actually go to dinner with him for the free meal.
And just like anything, this technique might actually work once in a while...for some. But its not for you, and I think it worked out just fine. Warning to other ladies though, you will meet this type of guy ALL of the time.
If he mentions contributing to customer SC websites...take extra caution!
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Originally Posted by Mia M





It's what I call "date the dancer" syndrome - and I'll admit to being an amused observer of the condition. It's also IMHO the driving force behind a lot of guys who are regulars.
Firstly, many guys are not able to differentiate between a dancer's behaviour at work and out of it: they assume the flirty, exhibitionistic personality will still be there if they develop a relationship with you OTC. Secondly, it's your availability within the club. Outside in the real world, it's just not possible to strike up conversations with much younger, attractive, flirty girls.
It's not too difficult for a needy guy to assume that the ITC behaviour is due to *some* attraction to him as a person, as well as the fact he's spending $$$'s. They also think that by spending that money, they are buying the time for the dancer to "get to know them", decide they're likable and agree to an OTC relationship with them.
Some guys will spend money on an OTC dinner because they see that $400 or $500 as a further investment towards their long term aim. They've got the dancer out of the club and into a 1:1 situation with them. In their minds that's a further step towards a relationship. (If they're buying VIP time, the costs may not be that different either).
However, this spending is driven by the illusion that it will bring a tangible result - an OTC relationship. The moment a regular realises that he's spent his money chasing rainbows is the moment the dancer/regular interaction begins to turn sour.
In the case of the OP, that was when her customer tried to convert ITC spending into an OTC relationship and realised that his spending was not going to bring the desired result.
Few guys are going to spend thousands and thousands of dollars on a dancer without "date the dancer" syndrome as an ulterior motive - manipulation ITC is a two way street (even if most regulars trying it crash and burn).
Phil.
Argh... I had a regular like that once. He would come in, get 5 or 6 dances, chat for an hour, and give me a few hundred bucks. About the 4th time he came in, he told me he only gets dances from single girls because he "invests" so much in them... he was looking for a return on his "investment." I was engaged at the time, but he had never bothered to ask! I just thought he was a nice guy and he was trying to marry me. Men like that drive me nuts.
My current regular just doesn't get it. He is ALWAYS asking if he can take me out to dinner after work or before work... um, hello, I work 6-1. I'm exhausted afterwards and there's no way in hell I'm sitting down to a nice dinner at 4:30 pm with a geezer I can barely stand in the club. We have met outside the club twice- the first time, he bought me a Coach purse, the second time, he gave me $1,000 so I "didn't have to work." Yet he still thinks I went out with him for fun and constantly wants to feed me after work, when I just want to get home to my pajamas and my Stripperweb.
I'm glad you ignored the guy. Hopefully it was a lesson to him that you are worth more than a free meal.![]()
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