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    i did search for this but the results were pretty old. so whos done it, whos happy? ive been dancing for 3-4 years and feel like the money is too bad to make it worth it. for 50$ an hour its good but not for 10$. my friends in the business world say the economic down turn isnt expected to change till 09.

    im in the lucky positon of having a big chunk o change in the bank and my boy partner would help support me if the going got tough. so now what...i would like to do something fun and make decent money 10-15 $ hour. ive done coffee shops, book stores, retail junk, and hated it. i was thinking maybe a sales person at neiman marcus ( i love fashion and look more model then stripper anyhow) or something like that but i dont know too much about it.

    im moving to cali in 4 months or so and then i will probably go back to school (for what i have no idea) in the mean time whats fun, i would sacrifice some $ for more fun

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    Default Re: transitioning to a real job

    can you give us a little more to go on or are you welcoming random suggestions?


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    This might be a good thread to start looking at. People discuss their jobs after dancing...

    $10 to 15 per hour is often difficult to find in a lot of places without some amount of specialized training or education...

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    i guess random is fine.

    for more info... i dont have a college degree though, so that limits me. im 25, wouldnt mind dressing more professionally for a job. i dont mind doing faster paced work (i would rather be busy then bored) but i dont want pure bedlam. i like problem solving, mulit tasking and conflict resolution. help desk jobs have been fun, and so have gift shop type places. i feel drawn to a job like neiman marcus because i can use my sales skills to make commission and have some control over my income.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kat 3322 View Post
    i was thinking maybe a sales person at neiman marcus ( i love fashion and look more model then stripper anyhow) or something like that but i dont know too much about it.
    If you're really intrested, PM me... I worked for NM for 3 years before I started dancing. If you're good, you'll make well over $15 per hour.

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    awwww Mia...share!

    op, what about a temporary staffing service especially since you'll be moving in a couple of months?


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    Where in CA are considering planting yourself? Most of the state is pretty expensive. Check out Craigslist for apartment rates for most CA cities and crime stats as well.

    If you plan to go to a community college, state or university be prepared to pay out of state tuition costs for a year. After 1 year of CA residency you are allowed to pay the regular tuition.

    If anything you can go to get basic skills such as keyboarding, excel etc after your move to one up your competition.

    Maybe catering or working in a hotel at the front desk?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LoveSexMoney View Post
    awwww Mia...share!
    Okay, i just didn't want to bore ya'll.

    First of all, you were never a stripper or worked in a strip club. NM will not hire you if you have worked in any establishment they deem "unsavory". If your club has a business alias they print on receipts, use that. They will not hire you if you have poor credit. You will have to pass a drug screening, too. They will check all your references and call your former employers/supervisors.

    You will make commision only. Depending on the state, they may have a "default" salary... that means if you sell nothing in a pay period, you'll make $8 an hour. That salary will then be deducted from your next commision pay check. Commision percentages are standard and vary by depatment, the highest is 9% in shoes and cosmetics.

    Training is a week long snore. Lots of sensitivity and point of sale training. Maybe it's just the department I worked in (cosmetics), but your co-workers will be back stabbing jackals... seriously, the drama I expierienced as an entertainer could not hold a candle to the shit that went on at Neiman Marcus. The "goals" they set for you turn the selling floor into a slaughter house... if your sales don't meet thier requirements three months out of a year, you're fired and walked out of the building by security.

    Perks: 30% employee discount that applies to new, sale, NM Last Call Store, and catalog purchases. Double employee discount days 2-3 times per year on select departments/merchandise. Vendor incentives, contests, and merchandise allowances... working in cosmetics, I got every new fragrance, skincare, and color product launched from lines like Laura Mercier, Nars, YSL, Chanel, Lancome, Estee Lauder, etc. I got a one ounce jar of La Mer everytime I sold a $1000 pound sized jar... I had so much shit I didn't need to buy cosmetics of any kind for a year after I quit and I was still sending boxes of creams to my mom.

    Paid vacations and excellent health insurance plans. Profit sharing. I took home $30000-$40000 a year selling lipstick and I was by no means a top earner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mia M View Post
    Okay, i just didn't want to bore ya'll.

    First of all, you were never a stripper or worked in a strip club. NM will not hire you if you have worked in any establishment they deem "unsavory". If your club has a business alias they print on receipts, use that. They will not hire you if you have poor credit. You will have to pass a drug screening, too. They will check all your references and call your former employers/supervisors.

    You will make commision only. Depending on the state, they may have a "default" salary... that means if you sell nothing in a pay period, you'll make $8 an hour. That salary will then be deducted from your next commision pay check. Commision percentages are standard and vary by depatment, the highest is 9% in shoes and cosmetics.

    Training is a week long snore. Lots of sensitivity and point of sale training. Maybe it's just the department I worked in (cosmetics), but your co-workers will be back stabbing jackals... seriously, the drama I expierienced as an entertainer could not hold a candle to the shit that went on at Neiman Marcus. The "goals" they set for you turn the selling floor into a slaughter house... if your sales don't meet thier requirements three months out of a year, you're fired and walked out of the building by security.

    Perks: 30% employee discount that applies to new, sale, NM Last Call Store, and catalog purchases. Double employee discount days 2-3 times per year on select departments/merchandise. Vendor incentives, contests, and merchandise allowances... working in cosmetics, I got every new fragrance, skincare, and color product launched from lines like Laura Mercier, Nars, YSL, Chanel, Lancome, Estee Lauder, etc. I got a one ounce jar of La Mer everytime I sold a $1000 pound sized jar... I had so much shit I didn't need to buy cosmetics of any kind for a year after I quit and I was still sending boxes of creams to my mom.

    Paid vacations and excellent health insurance plans. Profit sharing. I took home $30000-$40000 a year selling lipstick and I was by no means a top earner.
    Holy crap!

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    ^no shit! DAYUM!


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    ^^^ the truely fucked up part is that it's a "rolling" year, not a calendar year... Instead of giving you January thu December, or 12 months from hiring date, your year starts the first month you miss your goal. So you could be kicking ass for six months straight, but the moment you fall short your year starts...

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    they are allowed to check your credit to hire you! thats insane, well iv'e never had a credit card so that rules me out.

    also you would think that being able to sell 750 $ hours in champagne in a strict air dance club would impress them with your sales skills...yeah for discrimination.

    it sound like a pretty shitty job anyhow.

    a friend of mine has worked in small art galleries and is now working in a museum managing peoples corporate art accounts. they pay sounded decent maybe i'll ask her whats up with that.

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    Many jobs check credit history. Not having a credit card doesn't rule you out. They are looking for collections accounts, bankruptcies, etc.

    As far as getting fired for not meeting your sales quota after three months, that's not unusual in sales positions. If you aren't making the company money, then you are a cost to them. Other eager and assertive sales people are looking to get into the door.

    Life isn't fair, but sales is a great way to even the score if you are good and confident.

    As far as not being able to use your stripping experience in a job application...that's a societal issue that we aren't going to resolve before you need a paycheck. However, that doesn't mean you cannot USE your acquired skills once you get hired to make some money!

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    the quota thing doesnt seem unusual, but docking pay from your paycheck to compensate for them giving you a paycheck seems weird. i wonder if thats legal in every state...

    i guess ultimately i wouldn't take a job like that, just like i wouldn't work for a club with really high house fees, i just think its wrong.


    at this point im thinking about dancing till christmas is over because a lot of places have already hired holiday help, and stores are a mob scene. it doesnt seem like the best time to ask a manager or employee about working at there store when they look like they 've been behind a register for 11 hours strait ...remindes me of why i started dancing...ugh

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