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    Default For films making are there some sort of laws about what children can and can't do?

    My last final is about the book Paddy Clarke Ha Ha Ha, and wether or not it would be good as a film. Now, it's a story about the lives and interactions of 10 yr old and younger boys, and they do a lot of violent things to each other (in a joking way, but still very violent) like putting lighter fluid in a little brothers mouth and setting his mouth on fire.

    Now, I know that there are enough visually exciting aspects of the novel which would make it an interesting movie, but a lot of it is also a collection of random thoughts and feeling from the main boy that would be lost in moving from page to screen. Those aspects are about even, so, I'll make it a yes, it can be successfully turned into a film from a novel if there are no laws in the movie industry that would make it difficult to show the boys being so violent towards each other (and some animals as well, mostly rats), adn I will make it a no i fthere are laws that will make it difficult to show the violence, even though it's all in play, between these boys.

    Yeah, i know I could just make the paper about my own opinion, but I alwasy liek to put extra little facts in there- I swear this is why the professor loves me so much.

    Thank's for any info you have
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    There was a movie called "Mean Creek" a few years back. It was about these teens/preteens who drown a bully. It was rather disturbing, but I'm positive the actors in the film were children.

    Not sure of the legalities, though.

    I bet Yek would know.

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    Kids can do stunts as long as they're supervised and completely safe. Anything that might put them at risk, you have to hire an 18+ midget for a stunt double. The bit with the fire would most safely be done with computer-generated fire, I think; fire is really cheap and easy to add digitally, so you'd just shoot the kids pouring water from a lighter fluid bottle into the other kid's mouth and holding an unlit lighter to it or whatever, and then go in later to add CG fire.

    I worked on a film once where an actor set himself on fire and we did it the old-school way with fireproof prosthetics and stuff (this was an adult). They wound up going back and reshooting it for CG fire because the CG fire looked more realistic. Nearly all fire you see in movies these days is computer-generated.

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    I also have a question about this that I hope Yek can answer.

    I was watching the film "Babel" and there was a scene where the young boy was masturbating while peeking at a young female (who I think was his sister).

    How is that legal? Even if he was just pretending, it seemed icky to me and made it hard to concentrate on the movie after that.

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    I didn't see that part of the movie but I've worked on shows that had kids in sexual situations. I'm trying to think how they'd do that... how much did they show? Obviously they didn't show the kid's dick, but how did they convey that he was masturbating? A lot of the time they'll tell the kid to do one thing to get the shot they need, but the kid doesn't know what they're actually doing.

    I worked on a show once where we had two teenagers doing a blowjob scene. When it got down to the nitty-gritty of the blowjob, they weren't in the same room at the same time. We shot his close-up, then her close-up, and cut it together. They also had to re-write the script to remove the word "blowjob" because SAG decided that the 16-year-old skank actress (who's probably given more blowjobs than this whole forum combined) could not say that word on camera.

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    No, he was definitely portraying masterbation and it really disturbed me.

    There was another movie like that too, that I've always wondered about.

    "Kids"

    Having two young daughters at the time, that movie made me throw up. Literally. I actually had to go to the bathroom and vomit.

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    Kids came to mind whem i read this... that moeies sick!

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    what about violence towards animals. There are a lot of scenes in the novel with it, even going as far as to describe poking the stuff that came out of an animals moth (blood and guts) with a stick after killing it, then lighting it on fire and giving it a viking burial in the river. Also where two boys kick the shit out of a dog because his stumpy tail wasn't interesting enough. And another where they try to stone a rooster to death. But their doing it for fun, not to be psycho. I guess little boys are weirder than thought. So, how would they accomplish showing animal violence that is descibed with so much detail in the book?
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    Fake animals or using animals that are already dead. American Humane watches over the treatment of live animals on set, and you can't kill an animal for a movie (even a maggot or a bug), but you can use one that's already dead (like a fish from the grocery store). They'd probably do a combination of showing the live animal with simulated action and actual violence being done to the fake/dead one.

    Or (sadly) occasionally a low-budget indie will shoot in Mexico to get around our animal cruelty laws. A friend of mine worked on a show that went to Mexico to slaughter a pig, and they did slaughter the pig on camera just for the movie. Afterward the caterer butchered it and served it for lunch.

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