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    So this is December.... my clubs roster has just about doubled. Random women everywhere!

    Everything is off kilter.

    Me? I'm left in a room filled to the brim with new women trying to hustle the few guys that come in.

    How do I make this shitty situation work?
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    I'd like to see an answer to this too. My club seems to hire anyone who wants in and money gets spread so friggin thin. Our club thinks the more girls we hire, the more customers will come in, which is good in theory... Except girls keep coming in and leaving because of the cash spread thin, and customers are freaked about because either their favorites leave or they are being hustled to death.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cutey5032 View Post
    I work in a club where theres ALWAYS a ton of girls, and at the beginning of the night theres usually more girls than guys (classic "vulture scenario": too many girls circling the guys).

    My advice is: Don't leave the floor. Other girls may be up in the DR thinking "Its so bad down there" but seriously chat up anyone who is available. Only go to the DR if literally every guy has a stripper with him. There have been so many instances where I have heard girls say "Oh I only made X tonight" while I have a hell of a lot more on me.

    If the vulture scenario is seriously going on everynight, then maybe try out a second club.
    The vulture scenario is rampant in NYC right now... no second club to try.

    Are there ways to make myself stand out? Perhaps I'll wrap myself in Christmas Lights.
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    LOL it's nice to see Vulturing is an international term hehe...

    ...A little OT but I don't understand it... all the clubs I've worked at here anyway have always had wwaaayyy too many girls and so many girls who leave with under 100 dollars every night. I don't get why they keep dancing and don't get the hint.

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    Watch the entrance and introduce yourself while showing them to table. Yeah, it's vulturing but it works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cutey5032 View Post
    I work in a club where theres ALWAYS a ton of girls...
    About how many is average there for a weeknight? Weekend night? Just curious.

    My last club usually ran about 40-50 on a weeknight and 20-30 on a weekday night, but it always seemed like there were less...I guess b/c it was a big club with 3 stages, and there were enough customers to go around 99% of the time.

    Usually the vulture thing would happen early on in the night, so I just had to keep reminding myself that by about 10-11 pm there would be more custies than I could possibly get to, so I wouldn't get discouraged when it was slow early on.

    And once I managed that, I usually found it easier to sell even when it was early and slow...I guess b/c I wasn't stressed about it and that showed.

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    Half of the girls on a super overbooked shift will either go home or give up and start drinking. If you can keep yourself from being one of them, the battle's half won already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by red red red View Post
    Half of the girls on a super overbooked shift will either go home or give up and start drinking. If you can keep yourself from being one of them, the battle's half won already.
    I agree. It pays to wait sometimes. This happened to me on Sunday. I worked the day shift, and as usual there were 25 girls and 6 customers. Everyone was bitching and complaining. After an hour or two... low and behold... the number dwindled down considerably. I stuck it out and ended up doing decent for a Sunday.

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    Hmmm... I'm going to try and stick it out till the very end.... perhaps there is hope yet!
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    Quote Originally Posted by red red red View Post
    Half of the girls on a super overbooked shift will either go home or give up and start drinking. If you can keep yourself from being one of them, the battle's half won already.
    Hahaha.. that's if your management lets them go home. Our managers like to hoard as many girls as possible. There could be 50 girls on a monday night, and if I ask to go home because I've got class at 8 AM tomorrow and there are way too many girls anyway, I'll get told I can maybe go home half an hour before close. Hah. I'll take it; it's better than nothing, but man.. it seems like they enjoy watching us all mill around aimlessly trying to get a dance from the harried customers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by red red red View Post
    Half of the girls on a super overbooked shift will either go home or give up and start drinking. If you can keep yourself from being one of them, the battle's half won already.
    ^^^YES.,.. YES... and YES... Red, whoever you are, I want to hug you and possibly hump your leg . You are so right.

    Whether the club is dead or packed... it's still the same game.

    a- Approach everyone

    b- sooner than later

    c- take their money

    d- move to the next guy

    Really, there's not much else you can do besides the above a-b-c-d strategy. Don't give up and go to the fucking dressing room. Tonight there were ten girls in the dressing room, the rest in private rooms, two girls on stage, and two... TWO girls working the floor. One of them was me... and I honestly could not keep up with the dances. Stupid bitches giving up early.

    Oh, and can I mention.... HAVE A GOOD ATTITUDE even if you have to fake it. Seriously... attitude is everything. No one wants to be hustled by a girl who is pissed off at how her night is going. Your attitude will make you stand out.
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    ...I assume you probably don't want to deal with pervs, and the guys that just don't give a fuck about money are like unicorns...
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    ^ yeah, red's a hot leg to hump.

    also, i cannot reiterate enough how it's important to not sit in the DR. just go, go, go. never give up.

    Love it!

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    Hustle. hustle. then hustle some more. That's really all you can do. The club I was at before always had tons of girls and you just had to be on top of your game.You snoozed, you losed. I also found that wearing something that really stands out and is different than what the other girls wear got me noticed and remembered. I have a pink and green garter belt I wear with pink fishnets and a pink bikini top...and I bank on busy nights in it. It all glows and it sounds kind of over the top but everybody notices.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Taylorlila View Post
    I also found that wearing something that really stands out and is different than what the other girls wear got me noticed and remembered. I have a pink and green garter belt I wear with pink fishnets and a pink bikini top...and I bank on busy nights in it. It all glows and it sounds kind of over the top but everybody notices.
    Yes!! If your club allows neon UV-reflective outfits, go for it! That's assuming your club has enough blacklights to make the stuff really glow. I have several orange outfits, orange shoes and garters, and even a belly-ring that glows orange. Really eye-catching, to say the least. There aren't too many dancers I've seen working that color. Those outfits work well pretty much all the time. I have a couple of bright-yellow numbers, though, that really only work on packed, high-energy nights. On slow nights, guys have actually complained that the yellow is so bright it hurts their eyes. Even got tipped to go change, once.

    If you can, try to cultivate a unique look or an unusual hustle all your own. Even it it's goofy, if it's different you can definitely make it work! Different is good!!!
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    I know everyone here despises the stage, but it's always helped me. Sometimes I'll walk around and practically every guy is with a girl and the ones that don't had just sat down/ aren't interested. I seriously had nothing to do and walked back into the dressing room, only to feel like a loser (thank you stripper web) and went back on the floor. Still no one. So I asked the DJ if I could go on one of the side stages, mainly to keep me in a good mood. I ended up going to the back VIP pole, which is always dead, the managers have even told me not to try. But I went up there and started dancing and I ended up getting a few 5 dollar tips and a "vip" 160 for 45 minutes.

    So maybe hit up the stage if your really desperate. If I hadn't I'd have been sitting in the dressing room pouting and then been in a negative mood once I went out on the floor anyways. Plus, some guys just seem to come out of the wood work and it's a easy given that they'll buy some dances up they're tipping you on stage.

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    Yay, leg humping!

    Also, a lot of the times the customers will be affected by the "overbooked" vibe in a club. The girls will be all desperate and coming on super intense and trying to shake every last tip dollar out of everyone in the place... so it's also helpful to maintain a relaxed, happy, friendly demeanor. If the floor is turning into Stripclub Hell and you seem to be an oasis of calm in the middle of it, they will already want to run away with you to somewhere more quiet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dangerousdiva View Post
    Watch the entrance and introduce yourself while showing them to table. Yeah, it's vulturing but it works.
    I second this.

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    My club ALWAYS has at least 50 girls on night schedule. Hustle hustle hustle. Lots of girls end up sitting around or in the DR bitching about how theres no money. Stay out of the dressing room!! Approach every single guy (even if he looks unapproachable) EVERYONE wont say no. What gets me is when I look at guys and say to myself "he wont buy" or "he already spent money" and totally psych myself out.

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    I psych myself out too! I think this is what has me worried the most. I become so overwhelmed that I have straight up anxiety attacks.

    What would you ladies recommend be a good time between introduction and asking for a dance?

    When my club is normal and not oversaturated, I usually give the guy one "beers-worth" of time. Once he finishes his first drink I pop the question.

    When there are 3-4 girls for every guy... I swear... men just KNOW... they KNOW and capitalize on this. They draw things out... waste my time... say stupid "I just wanna hang out first" lines.

    I become torn between leaving them (and heading to the DR) or sticking it out with them. One night, a bunch of new girls sat with some guys for an hour and a half. The guys bought dances.... but 1-2 dances isn't = to 90 minutes of my time.


    So I just don't know....
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    this thread really is physicking me out to get my ass back to work


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    Also, a lot of the times the customers will be affected by the "overbooked" vibe in a club. The girls will be all desperate and coming on super intense and trying to shake every last tip dollar out of everyone in the place
    As a working dancer during both 'boom' times and bad times, I can vouch for the fact that you are ABSOLUTELY CORRECT on this score ... customers can SMELL desparation on the part of dancers. This usually results in either customers taunting dancers in exchange for one dollar tips (it used to feel like being in the monkey cage at the zoo), or customers expecting a whole lot of 'extras' to be thrown in for the regular price of a lap dance / VIP ! This will even happen when the customers are 'rich' guys, who could easily afford to drop a few hundred bucks without even noticing, and skip the 'games'. My intuition tells me that this 'smelling desparation' phenomenon has something to do with male power tripping ... trying to show their buddies that they're in a dominant position or some shit.


    When there are 3-4 girls for every guy... I swear... men just KNOW... they KNOW and capitalize on this. They draw things out... waste my time... say stupid "I just wanna hang out first" lines.
    again the power trip stuff ... desparate dancers will wind up 'doting' on these guys, meaning not only that they're getting a whole lot of attention in exchange for very little money being spent, but that they're 'controlling' the dancer by just dangling the prospect of money.

    Personally, I put up with this shit when the dotcom boom went bust, and there's no way I would put up with it again today.


    I become torn between leaving them (and heading to the DR) or sticking it out with them. One night, a bunch of new girls sat with some guys for an hour and a half. The guys bought dances.... but 1-2 dances isn't = to 90 minutes of my time.
    well, this is the calculated risk. Of course it matters a lot whether your club has already hit you with a $200+ stage fee that you need to earn back in order to 'break even', versus working in a percentage club where heading to the dressing room instead of selling dances means both you and the club 'share' the loss.


    Are there ways to make myself stand out? Perhaps I'll wrap myself in Christmas Lights.
    I found that boosting my cup size into the second half of the alphabet always worked pretty well i.e. drawing customer attention from clear across the club ! Of course not every customer will be into the huge boobs thing, but during hard times if you have the heaviest chest in the club all you need to do is find the one or two customers that are serious boob men !!

    The reason this works is marketing and percentages. Even if a club designed for 25 girls winds up with 50 or 75 or 100 girls working, since 24 or 49 or 74 of the additional girls are not going to provide serious competition in the huge boobs department the very same one or two boob loving customers are going to gravitate towards you the same way they would have if there were only the original 25 girls working ! When times are tough it really pays to be 'exotic' in some way, whether that means being 6 feet tall or having huge boobs or having some extremely distinctive look ... because if you can offer something unique versus the additional 24 or 49 or 74 new dancers, from a marketing standpoint it really doesn't matter how many new dancers there are.

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    Get there as early as they will let you!! Most dancers stumble in late, then spend an hour in the dressing room whining.

    Depending on when the club opens, be the first one there. Get your ass onstage ASAP, so you won't have to go back through the rotation for a while. Hustle your ASS off immediately, so you have a nice cushion to fall back upon once the other dancers roll in. It will relieve your stress and smell of "desperation" and you will still be able to sell. I agree with Melonie, they can tell. And if you've already pocketed a few hundred early from the happy hour crowd, the guys will enjoy seeing a lady who doesn't have "PLEASE GIVE ME MONEY" written across her forehead.

    This may or may not work, give it a try.

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    ^^ But with me the opposite works because these girls have been here 3-4 hours and then I show up and theyre like "Whos that?" not to mention I havent spent 3-4 hours in the club when its really slow. Its like being the new girl at a club.... it all really depends..

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