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    A forum that discusses strip clubs referred to here so I was just reading the posts.

    I'm posting in here instead of the Hustle Hut since I'm a customer...anyhow, some of the things I see there are wrong, in my opinion. So here is my discourse -

    First about me. Currently, my disposable income to spend at strip clubs is $250 a week - it has been $375 a week so far this year, but I am trying to sock some money away so it has been $250 a week for the past few weeks. Currently this is spent by a visit every two weeks to one girl at one club where I spend $500 each visit. I bathe, groom and dress nicely. It is impossible to tell what a girl is thinking, but girls have told me I do not grope them like some customers do. Of course, some girls sometimes do things like take hold of my hands and put them on their breasts, in which case I know they do not mind that and so forth.

    The first thing I will say regarding is - use common sense. One big thing is communication as to seeing someone I want to see again. The girl I currently dance with is making $1k a month for spending 3-4 hours with me that month. I know her schedule, and have her phone # - and she has my cell #. Of course you shouldn't hand your cell # right away to every customer - some girls might not want to give it at all to anyone, but the important thing is that he knows your schedule, and that if they are a little more regular, that there is some channel of communication if you're moving to another club or something.

    Or here's another thing - a girl I know, who is my favorite at another club complains I dance with 1 or 2 girls before I dance with her. The question I have, how come these two girls always get to me before she does? A lot of times it seems girls are one of two extremes - you don't want to dance with them and they hassle you anyhow, or you want to dance with them but they seem completely indifferent to it, even as they complain how they're getting no dances.

    Anyhow, let me look at the advice -

    "if someone says maybe later, they might mean that. be sure to return and remember"

    OK, but when I say this I never mean it. You might ask why I say this if I don't mean it - what should I say, the truth? "I don't think you are good looking and I will never dance with you, so don't ever bother asking again" I should also note looks are subjective - a lot of guys like blonde, blue-eyed girls with big breasts, but I have never been into that all-American type.

    "never sit alone looking bored. ever. it turns people off from you. if you are sitting alone, get up and walk, or go talk to a bouncer, or dj, or something"

    I completely disagree with this. I have never asked a girl talking to a bouncer or DJ for a dance, I have stood up and walked over to a girl sitting alone and asked for a dance.

    I see a few girls agreeing with this and I think you have it completely wrong. Here is how I see things from my perspective -

    I walk into a new place. The first thing I want to do is make sure I see (almost) everyone who is working. I wouldn't want to dance with anyone until I did this - unless they're completely drop-dead gorgeous. Anyhow, do that experiment yourself, think of everyone working on the shift and see how long it takes to sit there and get a good look at everyone who is dancing on that shift. So this takes anywhere from 20-45 minutes. I would also advise - don't run up to a customer and ask for a dance - walk slowly, why not? If a girl walks slowly over towards me and asks, I am more likely to say yes then if she struts over quickly. Also - walk around. I might wait until the second time you walk by to say something. If you don't like being rejected you don't have to say anything - just walk by slowly and smile when passing by. Another thing is - sometimes girls seem to approach in groups. One asks for a dance, then two seconds later another, and two seconds later another. I never say yes if that happens, unless I know them.

    A lot of girls seem unaware of how to just walk slowly around the club once in a while. If you're walking quickly, maybe you're going to the dressing room, or stage, or VIP room, or to a customer. If you're walking slowly it's obvious that's not so. I don't get this don't sit alone thing - like I really give a damn and am thinking about it. The girls who endlessly hassle me for a dance when I repeatedly say no are the ones who bother me - not the ones sitting by themselves.

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    my butt crack itches should i scratch it ?

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    OMGGGGG dude thank you!!!!! I had no fucking idea how to do my job until you came in here and told me!!!!1111


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    he was just trying to help. i think it's nice.
    even though most of us think we know how to do our jobs, i'm sure we could all learn a thing or two every now and then.

    i actually think the walking slower thing is good advice. i tend to be a 'fast walker' and never thought about the fact that maybe guys think i'm TOO busy (when i might not be at all.)

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    I'm sorry you took the time to type all that out. Really, I am. I don't need some random newbie on a stripper board telling me how to do my job. I don't come to McDonald's and tell you how to cook the burgers, so please don't do it to me.

    Leave the stripping advice to the professionals unless they ask for an opinion from a customer.

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    I don't like when dudes try to tell me how to do my job and make money. For every dude who likes what he likes in a dancer, there's going to be somebody who likes the opposite.

    It's irritating and condescending.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoahNYC View Post
    I'm posting in here instead of the Hustle Hut since I'm a customer...anyhow, some of the things I see there are wrong, in my opinion. So here is my discourse -
    WOW! and all this time I thought hustle hut was right! What would we do with out you to clear up all the maddness?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gingerlee View Post
    ... I don't come to McDonald's and tell you how to cook the burgers, so please don't do it to me. ...
    THat was sooo wrong - lol --- Now Ill go back to my popcorn!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by betterthaneden View Post
    he was just trying to help. i think it's nice.
    even though most of us think we know how to do our jobs, i'm sure we could all learn a thing or two every now and then.

    i actually think the walking slower thing is good advice. i tend to be a 'fast walker' and never thought about the fact that maybe guys think i'm TOO busy (when i might not be at all.)
    eh, its unsolicited "advice." plus he made his own thread to counter some of chrissy's tips from her "helpful things" thread. if he had comments about those points, he should have kept them in that therad.

    plus, nothing in hustle hut is WRONG. it just wouldnt work on him. nothing works on everyone. and honestly, i probably wouldnt want him as a customer with that attitude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lapaholic View Post
    THat was sooo wrong - lol --- Now Ill go back to my popcorn!!!!
    Well pass me some popcorn!

    And if you want me to say Burger King instead of McDonald's I'd be more than happy to do it, that is what you mean by saying I'm being totally wrong, right?

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    wow...i never would have known how to be a good stripper if some random dude hadn't told me.


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    See here's the thing.
    Unless you've taken the time to do some real analysis on the workings of a strip club you really have nothing to tell us about "customers". You can tell us what you like - which is handy if YOU are the customer, but not so handy for everyone else. Your personal preference doesn't necessarily help our bottom line, so it doesn't carry any weight insofar as what customers "generally" think, or what will be advantageous to us. So, if you are like a stripclub consultant and you've analyzed and been paid to watch and come up with these observations - you should start off with those qualifications. That way we'll know them. If you don't have any qualifications, you are a customer. Customers know how they like being served for themselves - that's all. Like Starbucks - they are interested in your experience with their staff, but that hardly mean that they think the average customer is well positioned to tell them how to run a franchise. Same thing.

    If not - then you're just some guy talking about what he likes. Which is fine and all... but.... this is your first post. Why would we care? Just honestly. None of us know you; I'm sure you're a delightful and interesting fellow but why would we care about these preferences of yours?
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    Wow,

    How do you ladies like your customers served: boiled, puréed or mashed?

    Phil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil-W View Post
    Wow,

    How do you ladies like your customers served: boiled, puréed or mashed?

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    Dude, if the guy at the sandwich counter can't make my lunch the way I like it, I don't post on a BBS about it, I just find another place to eat lunch. Ergo with regard to dancers, if they're doing it wrong, just find another dancer, another club or another hobby.

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    So, if you are like a stripclub consultant and you've analyzed and been paid to watch and come up with these observations
    Oh...my....I so...want this job....

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    OP, as whats been previously explained, there really isn't a one size fits all answer on how a dancer should go about her business. As far as her going about getting your business well, stating your preferences to your specifically desired entertainer(s) would be much more effective than insisting random strangers adhere to them, considering you're not likely to meet any of the ladies here.

    In the field environment, I've actually found dancers to be pretty adaptable people provided that your terms are reasonable.

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    So, if you are like a stripclub consultant and you've analyzed and been paid to watch and come up with these observations - you should start off with those qualifications. That way we'll know them. If you don't have any qualifications, you are a customer.
    Well, if strip clubs "qualify" consultants like they qualify any other position, its no wonder why the business is in the sad depressing shape that its in.
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    I think his advice is helpful. After all, he didn't start this thread to talk crap, so why attack him? Geeez people.

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    For the OP's information, guys have come up and asked me for dances as i talked to the manager or the bouncer, and actually in one occasion, both at the same time. Not that it matters since i can't get his business regardless since he said he doesn't like girls like me (busty and blonde).

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    THat was sooo wrong - lol --- Now Ill go back to my popcorn!!!!
    The McD comment made me laugh lol

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    Nothing about his post offended me. It wasn't asked for but that doesn't bother me either.

    I agreed with many of the things that he said esp the sitting alone thing. I have been approached many times by customers when I have been sitting alone. They often dont want to approach when you appear busy or unapproachable (ie. sitting with other dancers).

    As a more shy dancer who finds it hard to approach customers I didn't mind reading this post.
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    when did you become the spokesperson for all customers? i know plenty of them that would disagree with at -least- some of what you have to say.

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