Results 1 to 24 of 24

Thread: For the Splenda lovers...

  1. #1
    God/dess VenusGoddess's Avatar
    Joined
    Oct 2003
    Location
    Home
    Posts
    13,598
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 28 Times in 23 Posts

    Default For the Splenda lovers...

    For those of you who think Splenda is safe and the bomb...you may want to read this:

    Sugar-Free Blues

    While the Johnson & Johnson Corporation claims that they have hundreds of self-conducted studies demonstrating the product’s safety, sucralose has the fewest independent scientific tests to its credit of all non-nutritive sweeteners. Additionally, independent reviewers of Johnson & Johnson’s tests have found them to be inadequate and methodologically flawed. Flaws notwithstanding, several pre-approval tests still indicated potential toxicity, although this was written off by the company as insignificant. Similar to the situation with aspartame after it first entered the market, there are currently no independent, long-term studies on the effects of sucralose consumption.73

    Of the few human studies which have been conducted, one focusing on diabetics using sucralose showed "a statistically significant increase in glycosylated hemoglobin (Hba1C), which is a marker of long-term blood glucose levels and is used to assess glycemic control in diabetic patients." The FDA itself has stated that "increases in glycosolation in hemoglobin imply lessening of control in diabetes."74

    It is not only diabetics who need worry about the safety of sucralose. Research conducted with rats, mice and rabbits has shown that sucralose consumption can cause shrinking of the thymus gland (up to 40 percent shrinkage), enlargement of the liver and kidneys, atrophy of lymph follicles in the spleen and thymus, increased cecal weight, reduced bodily growth rate, decreased red blood cell count, hyperplasia of the pelvis, extension of gestational periods in pregnancy, decreased fetal body weights and placental weights, and diarrhea. According to the FDA’s "Final Rule" report on sucralose, it was considered to be "weakly mutagenic in a mouse lymphoma mutation assay."75

    The reason for this host of side effects is not fully understood. Many detractors have raised concerns due to the fact that sucralose is a chlorinated molecule. Chlorinated molecules, which are used as the basis for pesticides such as DDT, tend to accumulate in body tissues. Johnson & Johnson maintains that sucralose passes through the digestive system without any absorption or metabolization, but the FDA’s own research has shown that 11 to 27 percent of sucralose is absorbed in humans, while the rest is excreted unchanged in the feces. Tests performed by the Japanese Food Sanitation Council have found that as much as 40 percent of ingested sucralose is absorbed. To further dispute the manufacturer’s claims, research indicates that about 20 to 30 percent of the absorbed sucralose is metabolized. Both the metabolites and unchanged absorbed sucralose are excreted in urine, but some absorbed sucralose has been found to concentrate in the liver, kidney and gastrointestinal tract.76

    Not only does sucralose break down within the digestive system, but, as the FDA notes, "[it] may hydrolyze in some food products…[and] the resulting hydrolysis products may also be ingested by the consumer." Prolonged storage, particularly at high temperatures and low pH, causes sucralose to break down into other chemicals, including 4-chloro-4-deoxy-galactose, 1,6-dichloro-1,6-dideoxy-fructose and 1,6-dichlorofructose, none of which has ever specifically been tested in terms of safety for human ingestion. Additionally, as the FDA again acknowledges, sucralose may contain up to 2 percent of various impurities, such as heavy metals, arsenic, triphenilphosphine oxide, methanol, chlorinated disaccharides and chlorinated monosaccharides. Even if these "impurities" are within existing manufacturing guidelines, they are still all potentially dangerous to human health.77

  2. #2
    God/dess shasta's Avatar
    Joined
    Sep 2005
    Posts
    2,175
    Thanks
    778
    Thanked 658 Times in 317 Posts
    My Mood
    Breezy

    Default Re: For the Splenda lovers...

    ykes! thanks for the post vg

  3. #3
    God/dess ahmeerah's Avatar
    Joined
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Center of the World.
    Posts
    3,128
    Thanks
    66
    Thanked 82 Times in 51 Posts
    My Mood
    Breezy

    Default Re: For the Splenda lovers...

    Skip the Splenda and pick up some Stevia!

  4. #4
    Featured Member
    Joined
    Jun 2006
    Posts
    1,945
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Default Re: For the Splenda lovers...

    They tested Splenda on Beagles.

  5. #5
    God/dess Andygirl's Avatar
    Joined
    Jul 2006
    Location
    The VIP room
    Posts
    3,621
    Thanks
    47
    Thanked 187 Times in 58 Posts

    Default Re: For the Splenda lovers...

    Quote Originally Posted by StrawberrySwitchblade View Post
    They tested Splenda on Beagles.

    Meanwhile, HUMANS are eating it.

  6. #6
    God/dess Lexi's Avatar
    Joined
    Jan 2003
    Location
    Jerz
    Posts
    6,117
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Default Re: For the Splenda lovers...

    Quote Originally Posted by Andygirl View Post
    Meanwhile, HUMANS are eating it.


    Humans arent consuming the amounts that are pumped into the Beagles.

  7. #7
    God/dess greenidlady1's Avatar
    Joined
    Jul 2005
    Location
    North Carolina
    Posts
    4,183
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 14 Times in 12 Posts

    Default Re: For the Splenda lovers...

    I still prefer saccharin aka sweet-n-low. I know it's not great for me but neither is an equal consumption of sugar.

  8. #8
    Veteran Member naughty_princess's Avatar
    Joined
    Mar 2006
    Posts
    497
    Thanks
    2
    Thanked 30 Times in 22 Posts

    Default Re: For the Splenda lovers...

    I second the stevia!

  9. #9
    God/dess VenusGoddess's Avatar
    Joined
    Oct 2003
    Location
    Home
    Posts
    13,598
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 28 Times in 23 Posts

    Default Re: For the Splenda lovers...

    Quote Originally Posted by greenidlady1 View Post
    I still prefer saccharin aka sweet-n-low. I know it's not great for me but neither is an equal consumption of sugar.
    Did you know that artificial sweetners can actually lower your metabolism over time?

    If you do not want to get Stevia, Agave Nectar is very nummy!!

  10. #10
    Featured Member NatalieFRPhilly's Avatar
    Joined
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Maryland
    Posts
    1,557
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 8 Times in 5 Posts

    Default Re: For the Splenda lovers...

    what is stevia?

  11. #11
    God/dess phillyvixen's Avatar
    Joined
    Oct 2006
    Posts
    2,053
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts

    Default Re: For the Splenda lovers...

    my mom always talks about stevia. Its all natural from like a root or something i think. I'm haven't personally tried it yet



    Quote Originally Posted by Hatshepsut View Post
    Tell him that he's a load his mom should have swallowed.

  12. #12
    Senior Member Miaowren's Avatar
    Joined
    Oct 2007
    Posts
    167
    Thanks
    8
    Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts

    Default Re: For the Splenda lovers...

    It's a plant, you eat the leaves. Grow it in a big pot the root system is ferocious. Oh yeah it flowered for like all of Winter! Maybe longer... but definitely not in Summer. It's pretty hardy although moreso against frostbite than drought. That's all I can tell you... I haven't eaten it yet, it looks appetising though.

    Oh yeah and aspartame, (Is that what we're talking about? Artificial Sweeteners?) that stuff is just pure fucking poison!

  13. #13
    AudreyLeigh
    Guest

    Default Re: For the Splenda lovers...

    I had heard Splenda was bad for you before. I stick to straight up sugar. I hate artificial sweeteners - always have.

  14. #14
    God/dess ExoticEngineer's Avatar
    Joined
    Sep 2006
    Location
    Arizona
    Posts
    3,335
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 59 Times in 29 Posts

    Default Re: For the Splenda lovers...

    Seriously....pure sugar. Nothing added, nothing taken out. The man made chemical stuff just creeps me the hell out.

    I haven't heard of this stevia before though, is it natural? a plant? really?




  15. #15
    God/dess
    Joined
    May 2004
    Posts
    6,336
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 11 Times in 7 Posts

    Default Re: For the Splenda lovers...

    Quote Originally Posted by Andygirl View Post
    Meanwhile, HUMANS are eating it.
    By *gasp* free will.




    Stevia is a great substitute, although pricey. At my local market you can buy it in liquid, powder and tablet forms, depending on how you prefer to use it. I like the liquid.



    Because there ain't no tits on the radio

  16. #16
    God/dess VenusGoddess's Avatar
    Joined
    Oct 2003
    Location
    Home
    Posts
    13,598
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 28 Times in 23 Posts

    Default Re: For the Splenda lovers...

    Stevia is made from an herb. It's taste is ok. I have it and I use it occasionally.

    I prefer to use Agave Nectar...or Raw unprocessed/unpasteurized honey.

    More info on Stevia.

  17. #17
    God/dess
    Joined
    Jan 2005
    Location
    NJ
    Posts
    3,786
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Default Re: For the Splenda lovers...

    I'm curious, what would you suggest for people with blood sugar problems?

    I love honey, but it makes my sugar soar and I can't stomach stevia, it tastes absolutely nasty to me. I'd try the Agave Nectar, but I'm assuming that it would also raise my sugar like honey does.

    I try to stay away from sweets most of the time and will have a pure sugar dessert once in awhile but it's drinks that get me.

    I can only drink so much water before I want something that has a taste and anything I can drink has splenda or aspartame in it.

    Maybe it won't be too bad since I'm having maybe only one or two packets a day? Or is that too much?

  18. #18
    God/dess whirlerz's Avatar
    Joined
    May 2004
    Location
    Midwest
    Posts
    27,134
    Thanks
    55,898
    Thanked 26,027 Times in 13,270 Posts
    Blog Entries
    1
    My Mood
    Aggressive

    Default Re: For the Splenda lovers...

    I've been using stevia for awhile, & like it much better! I don't get the headaches I used to from the Splenda. However, I see it's in my Diet Coke..


    MANY MEN WANTED TO LAY ME DOWN, BUT FEW WANTED TO LIFT ME UP

    -Eartha Kitt

  19. #19
    God/dess VenusGoddess's Avatar
    Joined
    Oct 2003
    Location
    Home
    Posts
    13,598
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 28 Times in 23 Posts

    Default Re: For the Splenda lovers...

    Personally, I think any amount of the fake stuff is bad. There is research going into the thought that these fake sugars build toxicity in people with some medical problems (like diabetics, etc).

    Blue Agave Nectar has a glycemic index of 27. Honey has a glycemic index of 83. Here is some more information for you:

    Glycemic Index of Sugars

    Here is a great article on Artificial Sweetners:

    Sugar Substitutes and Their Potential Dangers

    For those of you who have a history of panic attacks, etc...I would definitely read up about Aspartame.

    Hope that helps you a bit, Dylan.

  20. #20
    God/dess
    Joined
    Jan 2005
    Location
    NJ
    Posts
    3,786
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Default Re: For the Splenda lovers...

    Quote Originally Posted by VenusGoddess View Post
    Personally, I think any amount of the fake stuff is bad. There is research going into the thought that these fake sugars build toxicity in people with some medical problems (like diabetics, etc).

    Blue Agave Nectar has a glycemic index of 27. Honey has a glycemic index of 83. Here is some more information for you:



    Here is a great article on Artificial Sweetners:



    For those of you who have a history of panic attacks, etc...I would definitely read up about Aspartame.

    Hope that helps you a bit, Dylan.
    It helps quite a bit. The agave nectar is pretty low and it's not like I'll be using it constantly, just when I want a break from plain old water.

    Thanks for the info.

  21. #21
    Featured Member mercedez's Avatar
    Joined
    Jan 2004
    Location
    lalala land
    Posts
    1,073
    Thanks
    1
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Default Re: For the Splenda lovers...

    Wow! I did not know that! thanks for the atricle

  22. #22
    God/dess Andygirl's Avatar
    Joined
    Jul 2006
    Location
    The VIP room
    Posts
    3,621
    Thanks
    47
    Thanked 187 Times in 58 Posts

    Default Re: For the Splenda lovers...

    Quote Originally Posted by hardkandee View Post
    By *gasp* free will.

    Most of whom know just about as much about it as a dog. I can't get too worked up about things like this getting tried on animals, especially when they are already feeding it to humans and hailing it as the greatest sugar substitute ever.

  23. #23
    Featured Member
    Joined
    Jun 2006
    Posts
    1,945
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Default Re: For the Splenda lovers...

    It's more of an issue that it was directly pumped into the dogs at very high doses, and the dogs had no say as to what was going on, or their eventual death and dissection in the name of research.

    I stick to sugar. Limited quantities is alright for you.

  24. #24
    God/dess
    Joined
    Jan 2005
    Location
    NJ
    Posts
    3,786
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Default Re: For the Splenda lovers...

    Quote Originally Posted by StrawberrySwitchblade View Post
    It's more of an issue that it was directly pumped into the dogs at very high doses, and the dogs had no say as to what was going on, or their eventual death and dissection in the name of research.

    I stick to sugar. Limited quantities is alright for you.
    Unless you have a blood sugar problem which is why a lot of people saw sucralose as the "great white hope". Disconcerting that it turned out to be just like the rest of them.

    I'm doing my research on VG's suggestion of the blue agave nectar. Waiting to hear back about experiences from others with sugar problems.

Similar Threads

  1. How bad is splenda actually for you?
    By dangerousdiva in forum Body Business
    Replies: 39
    Last Post: 06-08-2008, 03:28 PM
  2. Splenda
    By TigersMilk in forum Body Business
    Replies: 26
    Last Post: 09-06-2006, 11:40 AM
  3. For you PB lovers like me...
    By Vyanka in forum Body Business
    Replies: 21
    Last Post: 11-26-2004, 03:27 PM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •