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    Along with female circumcision, another custom from the "religion of love and understanding"



    Muslim Brides Undergoing Painful Vaginal Surgery to 'Re-virginize' for Wedding Nights

    Monday , December 17, 2007

    On her wedding night, Aisha Salim will hand her blooded sheets to her in-laws as proof of her virginity, according to a story in The Daily Telegraph of Australia.

    But there’s one problem. Being a modern English university graduate, she is far from the traditional untouched Muslim bride.

    Like most woman her age, Salim has smoked, drank, had sex and even lived with one of her past boyfriends.

    However, if the devout Muslim family of her soon-to-be husband – or even her own family – knew this, she could be murdered.

    Aisha has opted to have her virginity surgically restored in a delicate but painful surgery called hymenoplasties -- where the hymen is re-created from the already torn tissue, or a new membrane is inserted.

    "If my husband cannot prove to his family that I am a virgin, I would be hounded, ostracised and sent home in disgrace,” Salim told England’s Daily Mail.

    “My father, who is a devout Muslim, would regard it as the ultimate shame. The entire family could be cast out from the friends and society they hold dear, and I honestly believe that one of my fanatically religious cousins or uncles might kill me in revenge, to purge them of my sins. Incredible as it may seem, honour killings are still accepted within our religion.

    "Ever since my family arranged this marriage for me, I've been terrified that, on my wedding night, my secret would come out. It has only been since my surgery last week that I've actually been able to sleep properly. Now, I can look forward to my marriage."

    Salim is far from alone in seeking such drastic -- and almost barbaric -- surgery.

    The rise in Islamic fundamentalism has seen 24 women in the U.K. have the procedure between 2005 and 2006.

    "I've always adored my parents,” Salim said.

    “My father, now 62, is a retired accountant and my mother raised a family of seven sisters in a five-bedroom house in Birmingham.

    "I attended the local Catholic secondary school and although I wore a scarf on my head, I refused to wear a veil, telling my parents that it would make me stand out too much.

    "I was one of the girls, totally accepted by my white, English friends whose lives revolved around shopping and fancying boys.

    "But the moment I stepped over the doorstep, normal teenage life would cease and it was like entering an entirely different world. At home, we had to pray together five times a day.

    "We weren't allowed to watch television. My parents were so worried that Western influences might take our minds off the most important things -- education and religion -- that we were never allowed to bring any schoolfriends home.

    "But it made all the things my friends did more attractive to me. I would sneak out on Saturday afternoons and join them in town, hanging around, shopping and chatting to boys," Salim added.
    A cunning linguist...

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    I have heard of some of this crap.

    On a side note i have a large Python named Salim....lmao!
    Name change perhaps...

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    I find it curious that such devout Muslim parents would send their children to a Catholic school, where they would be taught and practice a different religion.

    Sorry for the threadjack...

    I sooooo want that surgery for my wedding night!!!

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    Eh. I find any surgery that makes a woman 'even better' for a man an abomination. Vaginal 'rejuvenation', lip snipping, re-hymen-ization, bullshit like that.

    There is nothing wrong with my pussy. Stop telling me I was broken from the start. I'm perfect as is, thank you.

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    Just goes to show they are a fucked up bunch of people.

    What happens when a man can't get a hard cock, do they chop it off, OH NO! Lets blame the woman....Screwed up peeps big time.
    I heard they don't want women to have an orgasm...dunno.

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    ^^ Genital mutilation can include complete removal of the clitoris, and in some cases as much of the internal clitoral body as well. But don't jump to just Muslims do it. Christians in Africa and the Mid-East do it too. They all have their 'reasons.'

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    Sad story....a girl in Toronto was recently killed by her father for refusing to wear the traditional Muslim head covering. Even worse, other family members were home at the time and did nothing to stop it.
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    Ive heard of this before - and not for religious purposes.... I saw it on tv! I learn everything from tv!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kitty260 View Post
    Sad story....a girl in Toronto was recently killed by her father for refusing to wear the traditional Muslim head covering. Even worse, other family members were home at the time and did nothing to stop it.
    I read about that on Feministing. Though I feel there is more to this story than she would not cover her hair.

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    See and I have seriously thought about hymenoplasty as a gift to my husband--kind of a symbolic "rebirth" to our relationship for a special occasion. But to feel like she has to do this or be in fear of being ostracized or killed is horrible.


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    I just can't wrap my mind around how our 'virginity' is something we owe to men. In some cultures, virginity is only a flap of skin that we tend to break doing stupid stuff like riding a horse, or roller skating.

    It's mysogynist, and it drives me nuts.

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    That's so sad that she has to go through that ordeal. I feel terrible for her, and all the other women who have to do go to such extremes.

    My boyfriend is Muslim, but honestly, I think that's more of a nationality thing to him (you'd have to know his country's history to get it). He doesn't practice Islam, I know his mom tries to do good, she doesn't drink or smoke or curse. And when he was little, his grandfather took him to mosque a few times. But I'm glad they're not 'extreme' where he's from (he's European), like the OP. They just try to be good people and show respect to God.
    I'm not religious at all, but I'd have a stroke if my in-laws expected me to re-virginize myself. *shudder*

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    Quote Originally Posted by StrawberrySwitchblade View Post
    I just can't wrap my mind around how our 'virginity' is something we owe to men. In some cultures, virginity is only a flap of skin that we tend to break doing stupid stuff like riding a horse, or roller skating.

    It's mysogynist, and it drives me nuts.
    I'm not sure you were responding directly or indirectly to me, so feel free to disregard this!

    I agree that "proof of virginity" is a cultural creation. I don't know when I lost my hymen but it was probably long before I was sexually active with anything other than my stuffed animals. It certainly was not a factor in my relationships, especially with my husband. However, I personally find a lot of erotic potential in the breaking of the hymen. To me, the appeal is a combination of the physical pain and the symbolic "first." It would be a ritual, a masochistic expression, and in that way significant to my husband and myself. Obviously not something I would ever feel appropriate to enforce on any other person in the world. That's all.


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    Sunday-That's kind of cool...

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    No, it wasn't in response to you, Sunday! I'm sorry if I came off that way.

    I just see a lot of pressure on girls to be sexual, but not. Madonna/whore complex. Be a dirty slut, but don't you dare actually be one.

    There is a lot of patriarchal bullshit surrounding the state of pussies everywhere. I don't know why they feel they need to tell me how my box should look. My pussy isn't ugly, 'sloppy,' or 'loose' because the lips are longer than you want, or my hymen was broken when I was roller skating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SundayMorning View Post
    ...I agree that "proof of virginity" is a cultural creation. I don't know when I lost my hymen but it was probably long before I was sexually active with anything other than my stuffed animals...
    I was told by everyone that I would bleed when I lost my virginity, but I did not. Apparently, some girls do, but I know other things can break the hymen like tampons, sports, horse riding... it's not necessarily a sign of 'virginity'. I agree with you Sunday, it's a cultural creation, but so is marriage and fashion and lunch. No big deal.

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    Thats why you should stick to anal sex before marriage !!!!!!!!

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    TY Glam!

    SS, I totally agree. Women have a lot of contradictory societal expectations imposed by people whose business it's not. And they all totally miss the point--the beauty is in the diversity, not in the "one right way"!

    Quote Originally Posted by 242_fair
    Thats why you should stick to anal sex before marriage.
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    I wouldn't be suprised if Born Agains here would do something like that.

    And I wouldn't say it's a muslim thing really. It's more Old School religous zealot type of thing. There are lots of different types of muslims as there are Christians.

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    Vaginal restoration surgery besides the aesthetic part for their own piece of mind, is completely useless, in my opinion. Once you lose it, it's not coming back and can't be brought back.

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    Hell, I was pissed when I realized that my years of horseback riding and tampon wearing hadnt torn my hymen. It hurt like a fucker when it ripped my first time and i bled for 3 days. I can't imagine paying to get that back.

    I feel awful for anyone who feels they *must* do anything like that to themselves simply to keep their family or possibly their lives. I don't care what reason is given, if you're told, 'you're a woman, you must be a virgin', I think it's bullshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AznExtasy View Post
    Vaginal restoration surgery besides the aesthetic part for their own piece of mind, is completely useless, in my opinion. Once you lose it, it's not coming back and can't be brought back.
    Yes!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 242_fair View Post
    Thats why you should stick to anal sex before marriage !!!!!!!!
    AHAHAHAH!! My best friend in highschool actually would only have ass sex because that way, she was still a virgin. WTF? I was like that's dirtier than real sex lol. Sorry Nellie.

    Also, while the first time I had sex did hurt like a bitch and just general sucked, there was no bloodshedding! So, even though I was a virgin, apparently I would have been murdered by my in laws for not being a bloody mess.

    I really wish the world wasnt so sad and fucked up
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    Quote Originally Posted by StrawberrySwitchblade View Post
    ^^ Genital mutilation can include complete removal of the clitoris, and in some cases as much of the internal clitoral body as well. But don't jump to just Muslims do it. Christians in Africa and the Mid-East do it too. They all have their 'reasons.'
    Here your clitorectomy is given through guilt. Only a whore would have sex for any reason other than procreation....right?
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    Oh lawd, I can just imagine the PAIN! Why not just shoot myself instead?!??

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