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    Texas Adds 'Pole Tax' to Strip Clubs for $5-Per-Customer Levy

    DALLAS — Texas, where strip clubs have given rise to Anna Nicole Smith and many other less-generously endowed performers, is about to make it more expensive to watch a little bump and grind.
    In what some have dubbed the "pole tax," the Lone Star State will require its 150 or so strip clubs to collect a $5-per-customer levy, with most of the proceeds going to help rape victims. The tax goes into effect on New Year's Day.


    Club owners and some of their customers say the money is going to a noble cause, but they argue that the tax infringes on their First Amendment right to freedom of expression, that it will drive some bars out of business and that it unfairly links their industry to sex crimes.



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    WTF? They assume that the adult industry is directly related to sexual assault.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StrawberrySwitchblade View Post
    WTF? They assume that the adult industry is directly related to sexual assault.
    Seems that way, like taxing smokers to pay for cancer treatments, but at least we know smokingg actually does cause cancers... It's $$$ for a good cause no doubt, but why does it get put on a single group in such a manner?
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    Because it's a good scapegoat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StrawberrySwitchblade View Post
    Because it's a good scapegoat.
    'Cause only dirty evil people go to, or work in, strip clubs?
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    If all the clubs now have an automatic additional $5 cover, might keep the cheapskates out.

    I do not approve of how they plan to use this tax. Why don't we use it for something resourceful, like helping subsidize inexpensive healthcare for nightclub and adult industry workers?

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    Like that money isn't going to be re-allocated to the general fund in a year or two. Rape victims - Puh-leeze.

    Well, at least some can say "Close the strip clubs? Why do you hate rape victims so much?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Will View Post
    'Cause only dirty evil people go to, or work in, strip clubs?

    Sooooo....you have met me!

    Katrines idea makes sense and would be the right thing to do, but we are talking about government here. They are rarely concerned with the right thing. Their preference is their own agenda and self-righteousness.

    An extra $5 for cover? Screw them. That is an extra $25 out of the three grand I spent there a few weeks ago. Seems like nothing really. They can have it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by crizgolfer View Post
    Sooooo....you have met me!

    Katrines idea makes sense and would be the right thing to do, but we are talking about government here. They are rarely concerned with the right thing. Their preference is their own agenda and self-righteousness.

    An extra $5 for cover? Screw them. That is an extra $25 out of the three grand I spent there a few weeks ago. Seems like nothing really. They can have it...
    As I don't work in a strip club or go to them but once in a blue moon (at least a few years), I will have to take your word on that, but I can see your point. 3 grand? They must love you where ever you go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deogol View Post
    Are we reading the same forum? Cuz every week there is one or two "I almost got raped!" stories on here.
    Are you trolling again Deogol? Is it time to put you back on ignore?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katrine View Post
    Are you trolling again Deogol? Is it time to put you back on ignore?
    Just hit search in the bar above. How can I be trolling when I speak the truth.

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    That was like ONE thread.

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    Well you know, every public school is over-funded and well monitored. No child left behind and all that.

    Oh wait, yea, fuck them strip-club-goers! Pay us to investigate you!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Will View Post
    Seems that way, like taxing smokers to pay for cancer treatments, but at least we know smokingg actually does cause cancers... It's $$$ for a good cause no doubt, but why does it get put on a single group in such a manner?
    I think that it's more like taxing smokers and putting the money toward drug rehabilitation programs.

    If you want to get something closer to the cancer analogy, it would be that the pole tax money would have to be dedicated toward bailing out credit providers.

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    Are we reading the same forum? Cuz every week there is one or two "I almost got raped!" stories on here.
    Out of several thousand people and nearly every continent, of course you get those threads. You ought to be getting them with anybody's, whether it is involved in stripping, auto mechanics, telemarketing or retail sales. The biggest influence on anyone's likelihood of being somehow involved in a sexual assault is the number of people the potential actor contacts per hour, not the actor's profession.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maximvsv View Post
    I think that it's more like taxing smokers and putting the money toward drug rehabilitation programs.

    If you want to get something closer to the cancer analogy, it would be that the pole tax money would have to be dedicated toward bailing out credit providers.
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    and it's called the SIN tax, not pole tax. I find it extremely offensive that they have it, let alone have to call it SIN tax.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buffie06 View Post
    and it's called the SIN tax, not pole tax. I find it extremely offensive that they have it, let alone have to call it SIN tax.
    Yeah thats offensive.


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    Seriously why do we need to raise money for rape victims ?I really dont know because from what I remember nobody went out of their way for my lil sis and I .The cops made my lil sis feel like she was the culprit instead .

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    SIN tax? I am not really up on my Bible studies, but I suppose TECHNICALLY a guy staring at hot naked women is a SIN. Of course, that is assuming that all people involved are of a particular religion. That kind of flies in the face of religious freedom.

    I also recall there was a whole list of SINs. Things like lying and stealing were also included. I wonder if they are going to fine a politician $5 every time he/she opens his/her mouth? I mean virtually every word out of their mouths is a SIN....well, TECHNICALLY speaking it is. They probably won't thus in the spirit of fair play I shall refer to this as the SELECTIVE SIN tax.

    I have no problem with trying to raise money to assist rape victims. I do have a problem with the notion that somehow strip clubs and rape have any correlation. I would be offended (just as Buffie is), but I long ago stopped caring what the G-Men think or do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beauty21queen View Post
    Seriously why do we need to raise money for rape victims ?I really dont know because from what I remember nobody went out of their way for my lil sis and I .The cops made my lil sis feel like she was the culprit instead .
    The fact that you and your sis had a bad experience sucks. That's no reason to be bitter and say that no rape victims deserve to have money raised on their behalf.

    ...However, I'm not sure the SIN tax is the way to do it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deogol View Post
    Are we reading the same forum? Cuz every week there is one or two "I almost got raped!" stories on here.
    Has it occured to you that it may have more to do with the fact that they're are a high number of women on this site? I've also seen similar posts on wedding forums...

    To say that the adult entertainment industry, particularly strip clubs, is directly responsible for rape is fucking ridiculous.

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    houston happens to have about 33 percent of the state's clubs. they are not likely to be ponying up 33 percent of the presumed revenue. in fact, it might just increase their already fairly major incentive to go bikini (a la hooters) and avoid dealing with the cover charge in the first place.

    which would make for some interesting legal issues.

    needless to say, this was proposed by a woman who loathes strip clubs and all who are in them. the 'funding rape crisis centers with dirty dirty titty bar money' angle is essentially a backhanded attempt to force clubs to close or become sufficiently dirty/illegal that they get closed down (from trying to avoid paying the tax, or from trying to levy it from the girls through higher tipouts rather than customer cover charges-- leading the girls to get really illegal for the money potentially).

    this was stupid when it was originally proposed and it's even stupider that they expect revenue from it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miabella View Post
    ...from trying to levy it from the girls through higher tipouts rather than customer cover charges...
    I was in Houston last weekend, and there was a stripper I was talking to that was trying to tell me that the managers were telling the girls that they would have to start charging $25 for dances after the New Year rather than $20 due to the new initiative. That didn't really make much sense to me, but I guess if the club DOES force higher tipouts (requiring that extra $5 to go to the club rather than the stripper)...

    ...but then who's going to do the counting of dances bought to make sure the club gets their "cut" to pay this tax?

    It makes more sense to me to just add $5 to the cover charge. It's quick, easy, and painless.
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    Why add a $5 cover charge that might prevent some guys from going in and buying drinks? The club doesn't make significant revenue from cover charges, or dancer fees. They make their money from liquor sales! Who gives a shit if the customer no longer wants to buy dances because they are an extra $5. They will just buy more drinks instead, same price.

    Management doesn't value dances or dancers. They think that custies will keep coming in no matter what. And they do, for now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stellaforstars View Post
    The fact that you and your sis had a bad experience sucks. That's no reason to be bitter and say that no rape victims deserve to have money raised on their behalf.

    ...However, I'm not sure the SIN tax is the way to do it...

    Gotta love Texas.
    Im not bitter at all and nor did I say that rape victims shouldn't have money raised on there behalf. I asked ,"What would they be doing with the money to help them out ?"

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