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    This question is directed to any girls who have worked in clubs where the manager is dating a dancer who works there. This is the second time that I started working at a club and making alot of money only because Ive been dancing long enough to know what works for me and how to use what I have to make the money I want, only to find that a certain manager is trying to give me a hard time like intimidate me or make up excuses why I cant work, so his girlfriend can make more money Im guessing.
    In the clubs I worked in where the managers could or didnt date the dancers I never had any problem with the management trying to bug or get me out of the club for no other reason then he's no better than a pimp for some girl he's dating in the club.
    This bugs me so much, because at this one club I started working in I am making so much money every night and following the rules according to a standard clean club, and this one creepy manager is trying to get under my skin since I started.
    I dont want to quit because the money is so good for me here and he and his girlfriend would win in the end, and I am making this money because Im good and hot damn it!!
    Any advice out there from other girls who were in this position b4????

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    I have been in a similar position, nothing that had to do with money, but politics in general. I had a girl fuck with me really bad, so bad that in mine and alot of other people's opinons she should have been fired for. But of course, since she was currently fucking the manager I talked to about it (and alot of the other managers I found out not long after) I was basically told that she was in the right and I was in the wrong. Whatever.
    It's so frustrating.

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    This is, of course, one of the best reasons that people shouldn't fuck each other when they work in the same stripclub. Unfortunately, the managers, from what I have seen, are the very worst about breaking the rules--even when they actually fire people for doing the same thing! I have seen this, and it is ugly, lol...

    EWspecially when the manager is ugly.

    I don't have much advice, except to keep being "good and hot damn it!!" You may wind up getting fired or having to quit eventually, so start looking for another club now.

    In the meantime, you actually have the moral high ground--since she wouldn't be feeling the need to pressure the guy if she didn't feel threatened by your superior sex appeal, and he wouldn't give in to her if he wasn't a spineless pussy at heart.

    Smile sweetly, keep rockin' with your bad self, and when the time comes, tell 'em both to fuck off.
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    Thanks for the advice, over the past few months after changing a club because of one real loser of a manager, Im finding these creepy loser manager guys are in alot of the clubs in my area, and there are few that are "normal", in the sense that they just do their job and dont try to mess with the dancer's playing mind games et dates etc,
    Maybe these guys are attracted to these positions because they need a way to make themselves feel powerful and feel they can take advantage of women in this industry because there are few structures in place to protect dancers from their schemes, which further inflates their egos. I guess thats where a dancer's union could make a difference,These guys make me so mad ...I just hope karma bites them in the ass.

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    The only person I've ever fucked was a dj, and it fucked with my money ... don't want to get into specifics, but it isn't the best move
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    Perhaps you stopped spending money on her. Strippers need money to operate. They are like coin operated juke-boxes of love.

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    I did a bouncer once. But he got fired for something totally else before I even switched from bartending to dancing at that club, so I never had any adverse effects. I think I got lucky.

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    everyone is dating at my club. im dating a manager. another manager has been dating a dancer for 3 years. head security is dating a dancer. dj has dated dancers. the door guy is dating a dancer. owners wife works there. her father is the other owner. its a small club and i honestly dont think too much is affected by any of this.

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    Theres nothing wrong with dating in staff in the clubs as long as you have your own game and dont try to manipulate ur bf in the club to get rid of a dancer who threatens u because she makes more money.
    Anyways, that kind of unfair game playing in clubs usually hits the person playing it back a hundred times again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dance77 View Post
    Maybe these guys are attracted to these positions because they need a way to make themselves feel powerful and feel they can take advantage of women in this industry because there are few structures in place to protect dancers from their schemes, which further inflates their egos...These guys make me so mad ...I just hope karma bites them in the ass.
    You hit the nail on the head. Most of the guys playing this game that I have seen--and I've seen it a LOT--are actually very weak-willed individuals. They may act like they are always on top of everything, and everyone (lol), but the more someone has to resort to petty ego games and dominance games to feel important, the weaker that person is going to be, deep down where it counts.

    Karma does bite them in the ass, at the very least in the sense that they are weak, miserable people, no matter how much they act otherwise and fool others into believing it.

    I have seen people sleep with each other or date each other in clubs and get away with it, but usually there is drama involved, and usually the drama bites someone in the ass. I have seen a lot of people who got fired or had to quit because of it. If you want to sleep with other industry people, the best way to do it is to go to another club, for chrissakes, lol!
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    Quote Originally Posted by britt244 View Post
    everyone is dating at my club. im dating a manager. another manager has been dating a dancer for 3 years. head security is dating a dancer. dj has dated dancers. the door guy is dating a dancer. owners wife works there. her father is the other owner. its a small club and i honestly dont think too much is affected by any of this.
    Me too. I've been with my guy for almost 3 years, and when I danced at his club I didn't get special treatment. If anything I had to make sure I was extra 'good' so people could not use me as an excuse for their bad behavior.

    I honestly don't see what a dancer's union would do to remedy manager/dancer dating situations. Some managers are assholes and they have power trip issues, but that's what happens in pretty much any job. There will always be 'favorites' who don't have to play by the rules, and while it sucks, I've just accepted that it comes with the job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gingerlee View Post
    Me too. I've been with my guy for almost 3 years, and when I danced at his club I didn't get special treatment. If anything I had to make sure I was extra 'good' so people could not use me as an excuse for their bad behavior.

    I honestly don't see what a dancer's union would do to remedy manager/dancer dating situations. Some managers are assholes and they have power trip issues, but that's what happens in pretty much any job. There will always be 'favorites' who don't have to play by the rules, and while it sucks, I've just accepted that it comes with the job.
    oh absolutely. the other manager's gf has more rules than most girls. sure, she may get away with more, but she also isn't allowed to go in the dressing room and gets yelled at if shes "making him look bad" by not doing well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by britt244 View Post
    oh absolutely. the other manager's gf has more rules than most girls. sure, she may get away with more, but she also isn't allowed to go in the dressing room and gets yelled at if shes "making him look bad" by not doing well.
    Exactly. And I will add that I also got called in to work on my days off if no girls showed up. I would be the only dancer for a couple hours every once in a while. Even on days I was supposed to have off, sometimes I would go in just in case I would be needed. I couldn't be snarky to other dancers (even if I *really* disliked them), I couldn't bitch out asshole custies, and a million other things. Shit, I still had to pay house fees on the days that I came in as a favor.

    Dating the manager/GM/owner isn't always easy, even if it looks like it is, ya know?

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    ^ she works 6 days a week most weeks. we both got in trouble for "being mean" to one of the owner's favorite girls. like you said, there are favorites no matter what. that girl we got in trouble over ISN'T anybodys girlfriend.

    there are some perks, though. she lives with him so she doesnt have to pay out as much on dances. theyve been together 3 years, though. its not like you start dating someone and all of a sudden you get something out of it.

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    Yeah the ones I saw dating managers were never so cool as to go above and beyond to help them out like that. That's pretty unusual, from what I've seen. If everyone were so conscientious when dating fellow workers, it wouldn't be a problem.
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    Britt do you honestly think it's OK for the girls at our club who are curently dating and/or fucking the managers, security, DJ doorguy to not pay tip out on dances? Why is that OK? Why should anyone get away with anything more than the other girls like myself who come to work, stay drama free, pay tip out and go home? The favoritism at that club is BULLSHIT and it pisses me off. If other girls don't have to tip out then I shouldn't either. Just because I've avoided the sexual advances of the males at our club doesn't mean I should have to give up 1/3 of my money every night and bascically put it in some other broad's pocket.

    And while I'm ranting, I'm tired of the little "lover's quarrels" that happen every fucking night between at least one of the couples.They are usually loud enough for the whole club to hear. That makes everyone uncomfortable and makes the enviroment shitty for the other girls. If the manager gets in a fight with his girl then he's an asshole to me. If the DJ gets in an argument with his girl then I don't get the music I want to dance to on stage. The only ones who don't change up are the security and the door guy.

    Yeah, I'm a bit angry about this but not at you Britt. We talked about this very thing when I first started there. It's not ok then and it's not ok now.
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    I've had problems like that at my previous club, where one or two girls were fucking the manager. They managed to keep it a secret until the relationship was over. My opinion is, see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil. If they just keep it quiet and nothing changes around the club, there are no problems.

    I just switched to a new club though, and was pleasantly surprised to find that the manager was female. Yay! No more problems like that. Why aren't there more girl managers? I think stripping experience should be prerequisite to managing a stripclub. If they already know what all the problem areas are, then they can avoid them much better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miss_Luscious View Post
    Britt do you honestly think it's OK for the girls at our club who are curently dating and/or fucking the managers, security, DJ doorguy to not pay tip out on dances? Why is that OK? Why should anyone get away with anything more than the other girls like myself who come to work, stay drama free, pay tip out and go home? The favoritism at that club is BULLSHIT and it pisses me off. If other girls don't have to tip out then I shouldn't either. Just because I've avoided the sexual advances of the males at our club doesn't mean I should have to give up 1/3 of my money every night and bascically put it in some other broad's pocket.

    And while I'm ranting, I'm tired of the little "lover's quarrels" that happen every fucking night between at least one of the couples.They are usually loud enough for the whole club to hear. That makes everyone uncomfortable and makes the enviroment shitty for the other girls. If the manager gets in a fight with his girl then he's an asshole to me. If the DJ gets in an argument with his girl then I don't get the music I want to dance to on stage. The only ones who don't change up are the security and the door guy.

    Yeah, I'm a bit angry about this but not at you Britt. We talked about this very thing when I first started there. It's not ok then and it's not ok now.
    i remember, haha. there's only one (well, now 2) girls who don't pay out the whole price. you know i never got that treatment! and i'm pretty sure you know who those 2 are. not saying its fair.. but it doesnt happen for everyone, either. i dont care all that much.

    as for the fighting.. hahaha.. i cant say anything about that either because i've been there too. youve never seen the lovely treatment i was getting, but i know you know about it! i think there will be drama everywhere, whether its between bf/gf or others. ive always seen fights like that at clubs ive worked at, and not because people are dating. as for security not fighting.. haha there are reasons for that and i wont post them here, but lets just say some of those "relationships" have "rules" and theyre more financial arrangements than actual relationships.

    the dj ive never seen get in a fight with his girl, either. when he acts the way he does, thats just how he is. the only people ive seen fight are the door guy and his gf(and he treats EVERYONE that way so it doesnt have much to do with the fact that theyre dating. youve never seen him be an ass? he DEFINATELY is a very moody guy. he used to be so mean to me i'd cry about it. i <3 him now though!), the other manager and his gf, and me and you know who.

    also.. yeah they get to pay out less. but they certainly have to deal with a lot more, too. you dont work weekends usually so you dont see, plus i'm good friends with the manager's gf so i've heard him yell at her sometimes. he's said some HORRIBLE things to her, and if she isn't doing good no matter how hard she tries, he's told her that everyone ELSE can sell dances so why isnt she? and she isnt allowed to go up and eat even though other girls sit up there all night. she was at one point told she wasnt allowed to speak to anyone and that if she was doing anything other but sitting on a customer's lap she was in trouble. there are some big cons to the whole situation, too. the other manager's gf ( i dont want to use names, thats why i keep typing it all out, haha) has to work 6 days a week. she has to get permission from him not to work, like after new years and stuff. i, along with other girls, have been told that we "make them look bad" if we arent doing well. i was told that if i'm not the first girl on every guy's lap, it made him look bad. sometimes i think if i were her i'd rather pay out all my dances than deal with that crap.

    edit: wait, i'm wrong. other girls dont pay out, but they dont pay for diff reasons. they arent dating people who work there. THAT bothers me more than the other girls not paying out. but then i think about how i usually make more money than the ones who are dating the manager and door guy, and thts even with paying out everything, so i dont mind too much. its just how it is and getting upset is only going to make me frustrated and hurt my money.
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