sup bro
sup bro
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Man, you guys must have a very different idea of "troll" from me... afaik a troll is someone who purposefully posts inflammatory/insulting stuff to get a rise out of people. I might be asking a dumb question that gets asked a lot, but I'm going out of my way to be responsive and not a huge dick about itlol
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The reason this thread went to 4 pages is the fact that the usual 'does she really like me?' question got diverted into philosophical matters in a rather amusing way.
MollyZMoon, I read most of Nietzsche while taking a class devoted to his works. It was taught by a Jewish professor who was quite brilliant and imaginative, and most definitely not anti-Semitic. While Neitzsche is admittedly a bit out there, so are 98% of philosophers, lol. But his work was twisted in a very nasty way by Hitler, et al, in order to promote something he never would have condoned.
Please, if you do take her out, no bragging. Unless you want to take it to the blue side, where you can regale the fiction writers (not that all of them are lying about the free lap dances and extras, mind you) with your success. Bragging about dating strippers is extremely boring when your audience is strippers.
You must have chaos within you to give birth to a dancing star.
Friedrich Nietzsche
Free your mind, and your ass will follow.
George Clinton
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"Have you ever been to American wedding? Where is the vodka, where's marinated herring?" - GB
"And do the cats give a shit? No, they do not. Why? Because they're cats."-from The Onion
Originally Posted by Mia M
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What's AFAIK, and 2+2 posters?
Oh, and Odysseus, I agree Kafka is great fun.
You must have chaos within you to give birth to a dancing star.
Friedrich Nietzsche
Free your mind, and your ass will follow.
George Clinton
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afaik = as far as i know, 2+2 is http://forums.twoplustwo.com/ , a huge online gambling forum server basically, but tons of subforums.
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Just to answer your question. A 22 year old dancer should not be underestimated. She can be a big time player !I think this girl was just having fun partying at work. We've all been there.She likes you as a custy and you should continue to spend money on her with reckless abandon.
They've been here. Pretty much every heavily male oriented and populated forum has come into our "club" to fuck with the ladies. Its quite amusing really, and often happens late in the night when I'm not around. But I've gotten a few glimpses of our troll wars and they are fun. A pain for the mods though.........
"Have you ever been to American wedding? Where is the vodka, where's marinated herring?" - GB
"And do the cats give a shit? No, they do not. Why? Because they're cats."-from The Onion
Originally Posted by Mia M
Well, I'm not here to troll, don't ban me!
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That's good, lol!Originally Posted by twisterinAZ
You must have chaos within you to give birth to a dancing star.
Friedrich Nietzsche
Free your mind, and your ass will follow.
George Clinton
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WORST THREAD EVER.Yawn.
There are many stereotypes about the industry that I work in. Sometimes they can be true but human beings are very diverse creatures and cannot be pigeon-holed into one category.
Some of the most effortlessly beautiful, kind, intelligent, successful, motivated, driven and ridiculously hilarious women that I have ever met have been dancers. I've met the best friends that I've ever had in this industry.
i dont know. i think this thread is entertaining. i dont think the OP is a troll.
i guess we will find out soon enough.
to the op, we actually had a troll called sup bro.
As quoted by Luckyone:
I asked directions from a genie in a bottle of jim beam and she lied to me.
Methodus saved my life!
we had that same troll lol, he made some funny threads though
Apologies for the played out thread topic, it occurs to me that this is kind of like asking "CAN I GET OUT OF A SPEEDING TICKET LOLZ" on a cop forum or something... I'm sure you get it a lot though
My next thread won't suck as bad I promise![]()
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This is what we guys go thru with a lot of women. Just let it play out slowly and see what happens, if it's all worth it anyhow.
I loved going to strip clubs; I actually made some friends there. Now things are different for the clubs and for me. As a result I am not as happy.
Customers are not entitled to grope, disrespect, or rob strippers. This is their job, not their hobby, and they all need income. Clubs are not just some erotic show for guys to view while drinking.
NOTE: anything I post here, outside of a direct quote, is my opinion only, which I am entitled to. Take it for what you estimate it is worth.
results/variance:
she calls me last night, just to shoot the shit for about a half an hour. this is cool, i am pleased. i end up drunk at the bars, get in a fight with my friend, we're both covered in snow, it's cold as hell. i go there and visit her anyway (since i know she's working til 4... i get there at like 3:30 lol) and we chill briefly, dance, etc. she says she's going to call me today now. alrighty.
probabilities*:
she has a nice hustle / is working this angle to get more $$: 87%
she is crazy/emotionally wounded/unstable and feels like i understand her: 7%
she's uncontrollably in love with me: 6%
(* - all probabilities fabricated)
bullet points:
she didn't ask me to come visit her at the SC, but she also didn't ask me to meet her anywhere outside of the SC. i didn't ask her out anyplace though, as i was mostly just caught off guard and i am a huge pussy
she apparently wasn't lying about most of the stuff she told me before, including not having a cell phone, since when i called her to tell her i was at the club it went to her voicemail which was "not set up yet" confirming her claim of having just purchased a gophone (also possible hustle/game, but that seems like a lot of effort to go through...)
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FWIW, I have for about 5 years now seen three dancers outside of work as friends. Not exactly common, but it suits all of us.
Highest probability is that you're a good source of income (player) but there is a small but finite probability that she would like to meet you OTC. (Friendship/love).
In two of three cases it was the dancers who asked for my number. In the third, I hadn't realised the dancer was really shy IRL, and it was only when we bumped into each other unexpectedly and she gave me a huge hug and a kiss that I realised she was waiting for me to ask for hers.
One thing I will say - dancers either view you as a friend or as a customer. If they view you as a customer they will behave very differently towards you than if they regard you as a friend.
You can get a fairly good clue as to how this dancer thinks of you by how she behaves when she dances for you. If she's thinking of you as a friend, she'll be a little uncomfortable. If she's thinking of you as a customer, she'll have no problem dancing for you.
If she's after friendship and/or love, odds are she'll take a little bit of time to make up her mind. Seeing someone OTC is a significant psychological step for a dancer. It means you see the real her, not the fantasy version in the smoke and mirrors that is a strip club. Also means she'll start to allow you into her private life, and many dancers keep a rigid distinction between work and private life.
Phil.





Holy shit, a Pie Chart!
A new level has been achieved in 'Does she really like me' thread history.
You must have chaos within you to give birth to a dancing star.
Friedrich Nietzsche
Free your mind, and your ass will follow.
George Clinton
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On these two points, she definitely seems comfortable dancing for me, but it's also not particularly sexual (at least compared to what my general expectation of a strip club is) and is a lot more like... cuddling? lol I dunno what to call it. She may just be reading my reactions to her though and changing how she dances to what I appear to respond best to.
I've sort of got a little bit into her private life I guess. At least in terms of knowing things about her. She claims to be an amazing cook (claims to have gone to a culinary program iirc) so maybe I can convince her to cook for me... I dunno.
Either way, I'm relatively pleased with the outcome so far... I'll try not to fuck it up, lol
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COMPUTO is working the complex math calculating the answer.
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Answer: $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
"Peter, did you take Stewie to a strip-club? He smells like sweat and fear." - Lois and Stewie (Family Guy) ... "Through early morning fog I see, Visions of the things to be, The pains that are withheld for me, I realize and I can see..."





I'd noticed some time ago that most dancers who talk to me on a genuinely personal level (not just the three I mentioned) started to get uncomfortable dancing in front of me. (Body language has been an interest of mine for many years). And ditto, I started to feel uncomfortable taking any notice.
I eventually found what I believe to be the explanation in a book on psychology (another interest). We tend to adjust our behaviour to suit the person we are with and, within reason, act in a way we feel will gain their approval.
Accordingly, if a dancer sees you as a customer, they'll behave as they think that customer wants them to behave in their stripper persona. And because they're playing a role (stripper) there's no inhibition against getting naked in front of the customer.
Most dancers however don't get naked in front of their male friends, so accordingly, feel uncomfortable being naked in front of me if they start to regard me as a friend - even a very casual one. And I pick that up from the body language and feel uncomfortable looking at them - "acting in a way to gain their approval".
Outside of work one of the dancers I know is a superlative cook. The other has trouble getting boiled new potatoes right. Law of averages I guess.
Phil.
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