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    Quote Originally Posted by mbillie1 View Post

    Either way, I'm relatively pleased with the outcome so far... I'll try not to fuck it up, lol
    Dude, at this point it's all mental masturbation. She called, and that's cool. At this point, it's simple: you ask her out, and you meet outside the club and see what happens. At this point, being she did call, if you can’t gather up the nads to ask her out on date, it’s going to flounder from here. She will either say “ I don’t date customers but thanks” or “I would love to, where do you want to eat?” Take it from there.
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    Yeah you're right. I'll just call and ask. I hafta wait til next weekend regardless to do anything socially, and that'll provide a "Swingers"-esque 6-7 days of waiting, which I believe is probably "money, baby"
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    You should definitely use the Pick Up Artist 'Dis Ploy' on her.

    Cast aspersion on her culinary skill in some obscure way that makes her want to prove to you she's the best cook ever, lol! If that doesn't get you an invitation, nothing will.
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    "I dunno, I don't think anyone can beat my mom's tiramisu... I'll try yours, but just know that the bar is set pretty high"
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    No, no--not that!

    Don't even mention your mom. Figure out a way to slight her skill, maybe--but don't bring your mom into it, lol!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Djoser View Post
    Holy shit, a Pie Chart!

    A new level has been achieved in 'Does she really like me' thread history.
    No shit! lol!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Djoser View Post
    No, no--not that!

    Don't even mention your mom. Figure out a way to slight her skill, maybe--but don't bring your mom into it, lol!

    hmm I will remember this this forum is a goldmine for the valuable information about women that I lack by having spent most of my 20s in one long strange relationship lol
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    Well I don't know if the 'Neg Ploy' will even work, and have some moral question in my mind as to whether it should be used, in general. I'm just having fun with it.

    But yeah, leave mom out of it if you try that, lol!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mbillie1 View Post
    Yeah you're right. I'll just call and ask. I hafta wait til next weekend regardless to do anything socially, and that'll provide a "Swingers"-esque 6-7 days of waiting, which I believe is probably "money, baby"
    Bad idea. Are you aware of how many guys she dances for every night? And how many of them ask her out? Within the next week, easily 100 different men. There may be another charmer or 3 amongst them. The longer you wait to call, the more opportunity she gets to completely forget about you.

    Call her tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katrine View Post
    Bad idea. Are you aware of how many guys she dances for every night? And how many of them ask her out? Within the next week, easily 100 different men. There may be another charmer or 3 amongst them. The longer you wait to call, the more opportunity she gets to completely forget about you.

    Call her tomorrow.

    Even though we already spoke on the phone? I will definitely defer to the judgment of the dancers/experienced people/not me here, I'm just wondering if she'll think I'm badgering her
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    Quote Originally Posted by mbillie1 View Post
    Even though we already spoke on the phone? I will definitely defer to the judgment of the dancers/experienced people/not me here, I'm just wondering if she'll think I'm badgering her
    Oh grow a pair. Call her on a Sunday, ask her if she would like to get a cup of coffee. Don't ask her to dinner, or anything time consuming. Have her meet you at a cool, hip local coffee shop. Don't ask to pick her up. Respect her privacy and allow her to remain in her comfort zone.

    Chat, get to know one another. And be yourself. Don't worry about "negs" and stupid gamer shit. If that isn't your personality, then good for you.


    This, of course, assumes she says yes. This way, you won't have to spend a lot of time or money to see if you both click. KISS (keep it simple stupid)

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    If a cupcake was tossed at me... well, I'd only be upset if it missed my mouth

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    This forum is like a crash course in women's psychology for me lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by WiseGuy_TX View Post
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    BINGO !!!
    I loved going to strip clubs; I actually made some friends there. Now things are different for the clubs and for me. As a result I am not as happy.

    Customers are not entitled to grope, disrespect, or rob strippers. This is their job, not their hobby, and they all need income. Clubs are not just some erotic show for guys to view while drinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katrine View Post
    Bad idea. Are you aware of how many guys she dances for every night? And how many of them ask her out? Within the next week, easily 100 different men.
    And therein lies the problem for any dancer - sorting out the wheat from the chaff. Dancers will in the course of their week get asked many times, and hidden in amongst the 99% of guys that the dancers has no interest in will be the 1% that she may like.

    Given also many dancers have had bad experiences from seeing guys OTC, in my experience many come to a wide, pejudicial conclusion about seeng a customer outside of work - like don't do it.

    I suspect from mbillie1's posts that she's a genuinely nice person, but her problem is the wheat/chaff ratio.

    Quote Originally Posted by Katrine View Post
    Oh grow a pair. Call her on a Sunday, ask her if she would like to get a cup of coffee. Don't ask her to dinner, or anything time consuming. Have her meet you at a cool, hip local coffee shop. Don't ask to pick her up. Respect her privacy and allow her to remain in her comfort zone.
    I'm gonna disagree with Katrine a little on tactics here. I'd suggest going in a couple of times more before inviting her for a cup of coffee. At the moment mbillie1 is the nice customer who came in and spent a fair bit of money.

    I get on well with quite a number of dancers, and I've been told one of the main reasons why is that I never talk to them as a customer would, but as part of a perfectly normal conversation. Accordingly, they feel I'm someone they can relax with, and gradually they move me out of their mental 'customer' category.

    Thus also with mbillie1. If she's going to get a 'yes' to her coffee invitation, the dancer has to feel that mbillie1 is a person whom it will nice to see outside of work. I'd argue that stage one is being nice to the dancer at work, so she feels it would be equally nice to see her for a coffee. Ask too quickly, and she'll get played as one of the 99%.

    Couldn't agree more about respecting the dancer's comfort zone. If she's going to meet you for a coffee it's a big mental step. You get to see the real her and she may take a bit of time to trust you enough to let you very far into her private life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil-W View Post
    I'm gonna disagree with Katrine a little on tactics here. I'd suggest going in a couple of times more before inviting her for a cup of coffee. At the moment mbillie1 is the nice customer who came in and spent a fair bit of money.

    I get on well with quite a number of dancers, and I've been told one of the main reasons why is that I never talk to them as a customer would, but as part of a perfectly normal conversation. Accordingly, they feel I'm someone they can relax with, and gradually they move me out of their mental 'customer' category.
    Nonononononononono!

    How many of these dancers are you fucking Phil? Don't answer, rhetorical.

    So he's going to go into her place of work and try to waste her time getting to know her in the club? When she is in the zone, and in dancer-persona? WRONG!

    There are plenty of guys who come into the club that are capable of normal, pleasant conversation. Those guys aren't that rare, you just don't hear your dancers friends nor girls on SW complaining about that normal, average guy.

    If he wants to see her, he needs to call her tomorrow, chat her up a bit, then ask her out for somethin quick and casual. They don't have to do it that day, just as long as he is ASSERTIVE and goes for what he is interested in.

    Don't beat around the bush like a like bitch. If you want to ask her out, just do it ASAP. If she makes excuses, she isn't interested. That simple. Why drag this on for another month?

    Wow, Phil, way to cockblock the kid.

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    The philosophy + lolcats + pie charts in this conversation is seriously way hot.

    The "does she like me..." not so much.

    This is what I get for opening a thread just to find out how the hell a "does she like me" got to 5 pages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djoser View Post
    You should definitely use the Pick Up Artist 'Dis Ploy' on her.

    Cast aspersion on her culinary skill in some obscure way that makes her want to prove to you she's the best cook ever, lol! If that doesn't get you an invitation, nothing will.
    or try pole tricks if all else fails

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    Quote Originally Posted by mbillie1 View Post
    Even though we already spoke on the phone? I will definitely defer to the judgment of the dancers/experienced people/not me here, I'm just wondering if she'll think I'm badgering her
    Oh no, this is going to segway into a "how long is too long to wait 'till you call?" threads!

    The girls will have better advice than I will on that issue, but a few days is fine, a week or so may be too long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mbillie1 View Post
    This forum is like a crash course in women's psychology for me lol
    That's your first mistake: don't think you will ever understand women's psychology
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    Wow. You two are so deep and intelligent. Your knowledge on women knows no bounds.

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    And here's a neat idea : talk about it in a forum for dancers

    Custies are so clueless. Even now they don't get it.

    *ahem*

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    Quote Originally Posted by twisterinAZ View Post
    Wow. You two are so deep and intelligent. Your knowledge on women knows no bounds.

    If you are talking to me as part of the two, I have given no advice on women to him per se, other than to make a joke (hence the smile face) that men will never fully understand female psychology. It was a joke, so if you had a humor bypass operation as a kid or something, my bad. If you were not talking to me, my apologies in advance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by twisterinAZ View Post
    And here's a neat idea : talk about it in a forum for dancers

    Custies are so clueless. Even now they don't get it.

    *ahem*
    Again, not sure who you are talking about, but I am not a "custie." Thank you.
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    I think you are one. Otherwise how did you find your way on to SW ?

    You are one of the two.....CUSTIE.

    Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but we all think that of you and your unsolicited advice. Custie.

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