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    Default Mandatory spay/neuter law passed in Las Vegas

    A lot of people pissed off, saying it's voilating rights,they should be allowed to do whatever they want....but I think this is a wonderful thing. I don't know how it will be enforced tho. If you adopt a pet out of the newspaper and never take it to the vet, who's gonna know you never got the animal fixed?

    Anyway, I think this is a step in the right direction.

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    Default Re: Mandatory spay/neuter law passed in Las Vegas

    Great idea! I've always gotten my pets spayed or neutered. I think only licensed breeders should not have to do it.

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    Default Re: Mandatory spay/neuter law passed in Las Vegas

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaylinn View Post
    Anyway, I think this is a step in the right direction.
    Well I guess that is kind of the point of the law. If ALL dogs and cats were neutered, we wouldn't have any. But if every single cat and dog the law can get their hands on is neutered, then maybe we'll have the right amount? People will have pets and the shelters won't be filled.

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    Awesome! You should have to have a license and proof that 1)you know what you are doing anf the animals have proper round the clock if needed vet care and 2) the animal is a prime specimiin of the breed(champpions winnings, etc...) so that breeding it would further the breed.

    Every other pet gets snipped by law.

    Makes me happy...I've been saying they(in general..not just Vegas)should do for years

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    Default Re: Mandatory spay/neuter law passed in Las Vegas

    Yup, they said "The North Las Vegas law requires dogs and cats to be sterilized before they reach 4 months of age, with exceptions for breeders, people with city-issued animal fancier permits, and for animals that a veterinarian deems medically unfit for sterilization." So it'll be legally possible for some groups to continue breeding which should shut up a lot of the complaints.

    Bravo to NLV! This is a great move.


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    Good news indeed. Oh they will find a way in enforce this. First if a dog gets knocked up (and should have been altered by law) the owners can't sell them in the papers, i think ACO's will check it out. They can only give or sell by word of mouth. This does help cut down the population. Also neighbours help ALOT, they will turn people in. That is one good thing about a nosey neigbour!

    If you have major bucks, and own expensive breeding line dogs, you can still breed. I like it. Backyard breeders are going down! Good news.

    Any adopted animal will probably NOT be adopted until it's paid in full and the procedure is done before the animal can leave the shelter to it's new home. Ours does this now. NO dogs/cats leave until their Vet. alters them first!

    This law makes pet owners responsible. If you can't abide by the law...don't let fluffly get knocked up.

    Wish we had that law here.

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    "Any adopted animal will probably NOT be adopted until it's paid in full and the procedure is done before the animal can leave the shelter to it's new home. Ours does this now. NO dogs/cats leave until their Vet. alters them first!"


    Except I don't think you can neuter puppies and kittens until they are older, no?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NewMoon View Post
    "Any adopted animal will probably NOT be adopted until it's paid in full and the procedure is done before the animal can leave the shelter to it's new home. Ours does this now. NO dogs/cats leave until their Vet. alters them first!"


    Except I don't think you can neuter puppies and kittens until they are older, no?
    Pups and kittens can be altered at weeks old...However this (many argue) may stunt growth. 8 weeks is not uncommon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Susan-Va View Post
    Great idea! I've always gotten my pets spayed or neutered. I think only licensed breeders should not have to do it.
    I agree. We should offer more control of our lives to government and should we want a right we should have to pay for it by purchasing a license.

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    Pet overpopulation is a really sad situation. There are millions of animals put to sleep every year because there aren't homes for them. Simply encouraging pet owners to spay/neuter is not enough. I'm very impressed with Las Vegas for putting it into law. More cities need to do the same.



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    I have to get my new kitty spayed this month.... Ive always spayed/neutered my animals. I dont have the time/patience to deal with a cat in heat or to deal with the kittens. I had ONE cat go into heat and it drove me up a WALL. I paid extra to have her spayed while in heat rather than waiting....

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    Quote Originally Posted by NewMoon View Post
    "Any adopted animal will probably NOT be adopted until it's paid in full and the procedure is done before the animal can leave the shelter to it's new home. Ours does this now. NO dogs/cats leave until their Vet. alters them first!"


    Except I don't think you can neuter puppies and kittens until they are older, no?

    Shelters always required you spay or neuter your pet. If you adopted one that was not old enough to be alterd, you still paied for the surgery at the time of adoption and are given a crtificate so that as soon as the pet is old enough you take it in and get it fixed.

    When we adopted our cats, they were through a foster program that was sponsered by the shelter, and the way it worked for us is we became foster parents, and were not allowed to adopt them until they were big enough to be spaed. Our cats were old enough, but to small. They had to weigh 5 lbs first. During the time that we had t wait for them to be big enough to fix, since we didn't own them yet, the shelter covered all of their medical expences for shots, or if they got sick. Our adoption fee was $75 total, for both cats, including the spay. And as soon as they were big enough we tok them in to get fixed and then took the paper from the vet saying it was done, and we officially adopted them.

    Anyway, yes, I think it's a wonderful idea. House pets have no need for their sex organs, and it only cuases other problems, aside from them getting accidentially pregnant. Our cats are indoor only, they have no chance of ever getting outside or getting pregnant, but we would have spayed them anyway, even if it wasn't required just because it's the right thing to do. It saves them from a lot of other issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaylinn View Post
    Shelters always required you spay or neuter your pet. If you adopted one that was not old enough to be alterd, you still paied for the surgery at the time of adoption and are given a crtificate so that as soon as the pet is old enough you take it in and get it fixed.

    When we adopted our cats, they were through a foster program that was sponsered by the shelter, and the way it worked for us is we became foster parents, and were not allowed to adopt them until they were big enough to be spaed. Our cats were old enough, but to small. They had to weigh 5 lbs first. During the time that we had t wait for them to be big enough to fix, since we didn't own them yet, the shelter covered all of their medical expences for shots, or if they got sick. Our adoption fee was $75 total, for both cats, including the spay. And as soon as they were big enough we tok them in to get fixed and then took the paper from the vet saying it was done, and we officially adopted them.

    Anyway, yes, I think it's a wonderful idea. House pets have no need for their sex organs, and it only cuases other problems, aside from them getting accidentially pregnant. Our cats are indoor only, they have no chance of ever getting outside or getting pregnant, but we would have spayed them anyway, even if it wasn't required just because it's the right thing to do. It saves them from a lot of other issues.
    Our shelter tried that. Take the pet home and free alter because it was part of the adoption fee. But found many people did not get their pets altered. So now you pay, and wait until the shelter has their Vet. alter the pet, then you pick em up

    Oh and the only way the shelter found out was after many returns on pets that had not gotten altered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deogol View Post
    I agree. We should offer more control of our lives to government and should we want a right we should have to pay for it by purchasing a license.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deogol View Post
    I agree. We should offer more control of our lives to government and should we want a right we should have to pay for it by purchasing a license.
    There are laws for a reason. You cant wander into a store and steal, you cant push an old lady down the stairs, you cant have sex with an underage child, etc...etc...

    You cant have a gun without a license. You cant hunt without a license. You cant drive without a license.....Like breeding animals...these things arent necessarily RIGHTS and not everyone sould be allowed to do them.

    Yes, by purchasing a license it 1) opens you to inspection to make sure Fluffy and Rover are healthy enough to breed to begin with and 2) shows you are serious about this...you;d be amazed how many people out there are lterally killing their animals by breeding them over and over and over with NO vet care...breeding animals who are sick, etc....just to make a profit. Anything that cuts down on this I applaud.

    If you'd like to live in chaos...I'm sure you can find a deserted island and move there and form your own little militia.

    The rest of us would like the douchebags controlled.

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    And in related news, my hometown just banned pot-bellied pigs. Seriously.

    In any regard, as much as I despise government forcing people's hands like this, the ramifications of letting people continue to irresponsibly breed their pets has to be considered. The price tag for all those strays being put down can't be cheap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cameron_keys View Post
    There are laws for a reason. You cant wander into a store and steal, you cant push an old lady down the stairs, you cant have sex with an underage child, etc...etc...
    Yes, but all of those crimes have an actual victim. Some (myself included) might say rampant pet breeding does too, but its debatable. However, the reasoning for some laws is nothing more than self-serving social engineering by those in power. Here's a recent example from this very forum.

    http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=105185

    The rest of us would like the douchebags controlled.
    I'm sure the people who try to regulate strip clubs as a means of shutting them down down feel the same way, although they might have a different notion on who the douchebags are.
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    Law just passed for my larger Pythons.

    Hell i don't mind. I have 4 that fall under this Fl. law. Micor. them, scan the chip, register each chip in my name, pay out $100 per Python each year (subject to change) have my name with my Pythons in a national database, AND take a test of my knowledge about each Python that needs registered. If i lose one of these snakes i may face a fine and or jail time depending. I can fly with this.

    I'm fuckin tired of people thinking these giant snakes are fun! They are hard work. Once they realize this they turn em out...bastards.

    These can be dangerous animals

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    Read the link...sorry off topic but gotta love Katrines message in there...LMAO..you all will know which one. God that made me laugh!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by doc-catfish View Post
    Yes, but all of those crimes have an actual victim. Some (myself included) might say rampant pet breeding does too, but its debatable.
    If anyone wants to debate it they should be made to spend hours upon hours watching perfectly affectionate, sweet, animals...some babies...being killed PURELY because of overpopulation.

    Or the bitch that can barely breathe because she's been so overbred that her body is completley depleted.

    Or the puppies that are born with horrific genetic disorders because no screening,vaccinations, or healthcare in general was done


    And on and on.

    It is certainly NOT a victimless crime

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    Quote Originally Posted by cameron_keys View Post
    There are laws for a reason. You cant wander into a store and steal, you cant push an old lady down the stairs, you cant have sex with an underage child, etc...etc...
    There are laws against this because PEOPLE are the victims.

    Quote Originally Posted by cameron_keys View Post
    You cant have a gun without a license. You cant hunt without a license. You cant drive without a license.....Like breeding animals...these things arent necessarily RIGHTS and not everyone sould be allowed to do them.
    Gun Ownership is a Right , found in the U.S. Constitution. We won't debate the Second here though. The rest are licensed not so much to make People more Responsible, but as a source of income for Government coffers.

    Quote Originally Posted by cameron_keys View Post
    Yes, by purchasing a license it 1) opens you to inspection to make sure Fluffy and Rover are healthy enough to breed to begin with and 2) shows you are serious about this...you;d be amazed how many people out there are lterally killing their animals by breeding them over and over and over with NO vet care...breeding animals who are sick, etc....just to make a profit. Anything that cuts down on this I applaud.
    Yes I want to open my home to random Government inspections. Oh wait, that clashes with the Constitution again. Specifically the Fourth amendment.
    I applaud that you are a sensitive person, and you care for animals. I disagree with forcing your views on animal ownership on others.

    The true answer to the problem; if you want to eradicate animal abuses, is to ban pet ownership.

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    If you'd like to live in chaos...I'm sure you can find a deserted island and move there and form your own little militia.
    Why an island? This sums up a whole continent. Africa.

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    The rest of us would like the douchebags controlled.
    Doc Catfish said this better.

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    Default Re: Mandatory spay/neuter law passed in Las Vegas

    At first I thought that law applied to humans, and then said how silly to think that.

    Then on reflection, I'm thinking that I know a few people that maybe it should apply to.
    I loved going to strip clubs; I actually made some friends there. Now things are different for the clubs and for me. As a result I am not as happy.

    Customers are not entitled to grope, disrespect, or rob strippers. This is their job, not their hobby, and they all need income. Clubs are not just some erotic show for guys to view while drinking.

    NOTE: anything I post here, outside of a direct quote, is my opinion only, which I am entitled to. Take it for what you estimate it is worth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArmySGT. View Post
    There are laws against this because PEOPLE are the victims.
    Right..I forgot people were more important and the suffering of animals doesnt count. Ther ARE laws protecting animals as well from abuse, neglect,etc... People arent the only potential victims in the workd that need protection

    Quote Originally Posted by ArmySGT. View Post
    Gun Ownership is a Right , found in the U.S. Constitution. We won't debate the Second here though. The rest are licensed not so much to make People more Responsible, but as a source of income for Government coffers
    So you think there should be no licenses, background checks,etc to own a gun? You think people who have been convicted of violent felonies should be allowed to own a gun?
    If so sorry..cant agree.
    Free speech is in the constitution too...but there are exceptions.
    I have no problem at all with having to have a license for my guns

    Quote Originally Posted by ArmySGT. View Post
    Yes I want to open my home to random Government inspections. Oh wait, that clashes with the Constitution again. Specifically the Fourth amendment.
    I applaud that you are a sensitive person, and you care for animals. I disagree with forcing your views on animal ownership on others.
    Home inspections are done to adopt a child. Why not an animal. I realize you dont see animals as being as important as humans...but many of us do and would rather inconvenience a few people to save thousands upon thousands from a fate worse then death. I'd have no problem with a home inspection. It would show me that they actually care about what people are taking on this responsibility. And if I didnt measure up...I shouldnt be allowed to be a breeder.

    Quote Originally Posted by ArmySGT. View Post
    The true answer to the problem; if you want to eradicate animal abuses, is to ban pet ownership.
    Right. Lets punish all the responsible owners instead of making it more difficult at the very least for irresponsible or abusive people to get their hands on them. That makes sense

    Quote Originally Posted by ArmySGT. View Post
    Why an island? This sums up a whole continent. Africa.
    Wow. Thats amazingly racist. Have you ever been to Africa? I havent...and even I can tell you everyone isnt running wild on the whole continent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArmySGT. View Post
    The true answer to the problem; if you want to eradicate animal abuses, is to ban pet ownership.

    Which will never EVER happen because for thousands upon thousands of years animals have been companions to humans. It is almost an instinctive "need" that we have as "race"...

    As one of the VERY responsible pet owners, I would be very against this.

    As someone who has and tries to volunteer whenever she can at the local animal shelter I see the results of not having laws such as Vegas has....

    It is this sort of law that my animal organisation (AWL QLD) is trying to get through... and I agree with it 100%.


    Oh.. btw... when Deogol said "I agree. We should offer more control of our lives to government and should we want a right we should have to pay for it by purchasing a license." Whilst I see your point.... If you have not noticed already, humans are pretty stupid animals. We can't be trusted to operate effectively by ourselves without any laws. Even with laws, we still can't be trusted!!!!

    Work at your local animal shelter for a period. I bet you will have you mind changed.


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