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    My puppy is trained go to on a wee wee pad. I don't like that, and think dogs should go potty outside. I'm not sure of the best approach to break him of going on the pad. I don't have one down so he can't use it and i take him outside every hour or ass on as he's done eating, and sometimes he goes, more ofte, he doesn't. He also hates it outside cause he's so tiny and he gets to cold so he just stands there and shivers. I bought him a little jacket, but it doesn't seem to help.

    I know how to housebreak a dog, but I don't know how to break him of using wee wee pads. Should I just keep diong what I'm doing taking him outside and he'll getthe idea? I first had the wee wee pad by the door, so he would learn to go near the door when he had to potty, and when I saw him by the dorr I took him out before he had a chance to go, but he was to quick for me and peed before I could get to him. With the wee wee pads, he doesn't know how to hold it at all, so h will pee just a tiny bit and I can't catch him in time, so I threw out the pads.

    Any advice on how to housebreak a puppy thats alreayd trained to go on the pads?

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    move the pad outside.

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    Have you tried putting the wee wee pads outside? I know it sounds stupid, but it might help....
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    whats so wrong with the pad?

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    whats so wrong with the pad?

    It means the dog craps and pisses in the house, for one thing.

    It is appropriate for dogs to learn to go outside. It alleviates a lot of work on the part of the owner and also alleviates the need for pads, which probably pile up in landfills much like diapers.

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    oh. ive never heard of pads. is it the same as a kitty litter box?

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    I'll try taking a pad outside with me maybe that will help. Thanks

    Mermaidnz, a puppy pad is like an absorbant throw away towel that you put on the floor and teach a dog to go on, instead of teaching him to go outside, or ask to be let out.
    He won't be a tiny baby forever, and one day that will be a lot of shit and piss on the floor, so I want to break this habitt and teach him to go to the door or ask to be let out.

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    Start with the pad by the door, that'll get him used to going to the door when he has to go. Then move the pad outside, but make sure he knows the pad is outside. Once he gets used to going outside you can get rid of the pad and he should be ok.
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    You got a puppy?! Did I miss pics?

    Yeah!!



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    I postd in PP...but here's another....
    He's half toy fox terrier and half rat terrier...aint he adorable? He's such a smart sweet boy. I am in love
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    Yep, keep doing what you're doing.

    Be sure to praise/reward a bunch when he goes outside. Avoid punishing him when he goes inside - it'll make him afraid to go in front of you outside, too, and that's what you're trying to teach him to do.

    It can be really hard to potty train little dogs, especially in a big house. If you can make his world smaller, it will help.

    If he's having a lot of trouble with it, you can keep him attatched to you on a long-ish leash, so that you'll know exactly when he has to go.



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    We're doing much better. I think the main issue was that I let him out of his crate for to long, espicially sometimes when I couldn't keep my eye on him constantly. Now we are on a better schedule, and I leave him in his crate more. He is tired and needs to sleep. I wanted to have him with me all the time, and that isn't good for him just yet.
    I got rid of the pee pads. I was only confusing him with those, since I want him to learn outside. So now I am just watching him and as soon as he starts sniffing I say outside and run him out and say go potty. He is learning "go potty" fast and will go when I tell him to. after he goes potty I play with hhim for awhile, and give him food if it's time and then go outside one more time and then back in his crate for awhile. In the mornings, I set an alarm to wake me up 5 hours after I go to bed. He can hold it that long. He hasn't had any accidents in his crate. He is 12 weeks old. We go outside and then I take him to bed with me and we nap for 2 more hours together and then we wake up go outside, get breakfast and play for awhile before he goes outside and then in his crate until lunch time. I think I was wearing him out yeterday. I didn't realize how much time puppys need to rest.

    I'm only going to work for 5 hours so I won't be gone to long so he isn't stuck in his crate for any longer than 6 hours. Luckil I will work during what he already knows as bed time so he will sleep while I'm gone. He likes his crate and never cries when he's there, and he goes in willingly. I never put him in the crate to punish him. If I catch him in the act of peeing I just say NO! and then outside! and run him out. If I don't catch him then I just clean it up and take him out after it's clean. I never yell at him if don't catch him in the act.
    When he goes potty outside I tell him what a good boy he is and gie him a little treat. he is so proud of himself to! He really wants to please me and tries hard. He's a good boy.


    So am I doing this right? I've read horror stories about people who mess dogs up for life cause they do it wrong. I want a happy puppy.

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    Sounds like your doing it right

    god I wish I had another dog, but, where I live alone and travel an hour to work it just would be fair to him/her.

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    OMG absolutely adorable! I want one!!

    I'm so glad you got the puppy. I know you'll be a good care taker (I dislike "owner") and he seems to be making you so happy!

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    oh my gosh, he makes me so happy. This was exactly what I needed to help cure my depression. He gives me a reason to get up every morning. I have to take care of him. He gives me a reason to go outside and see day light several times a day. He gives me exercise when we go for walks. He makes me laugh all day long because of how sily he acts when we play. And he makes me so proud and feel like I'm acomplishing something when he learns what I am trying to teach him. I've only had him for 3 days and today he only had 1 accident. When I take himoutside and tell him to go potty, he already knows what I mean and will pee on comand. He is so damn proud of himself for that. And I am so proud him him. This little guy is so smart!
    I found him off craiglist, of all places! The woman got him as a christmas gift and didn't want him, and just wanted him to find a good home. which he did

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    You're doing the same thing I did with Guenevere. And well, you've seen my carpet *cursing*

    It worked well with her at first but then she got bigger and just stopped behaving about peepee time outside, I think moving into the house is when it really got started, maybe it confused her, IDK. She knows she's only meant to go outside, we take her out all the time but she still goes inside, and it's not like full pee spots, it's like she's marking her territory, tiny little spots in concentrated areas.

    I think if your baby already gets the training thing it should be easier. But as far as the pee pads, I wouldn't throw that idea out the window yet. There may be times that indoor training will come in handy. I would switch training to a box (like a litter box but they make dog versions) and use a box and outdoor training if possible. You can get environmentally friendly contents for the boxes too, we used them for Guenevere for a while but she got too big for the one we had.

    I want one of these!! In the winter, having a yard with no landscaping makes it hard to keep potty time clean (muddy yard in the rain). And this way we can put it in the garage and she'll have a dry place to go!

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    That is cool. His own little patch of grass.

    he is doing very well with the training. He has been going to the top of the steps to be let out. He had only 1 accident yesterday. None so far today. He is housebroken, so far as he knows to go outside, but he doesn't quite have a grasp yet on telling me when he has to go. He sometiems goes to the steps, sometimes he doesn't, but he is catching on fast. It's only been 3 days. He caught on to "sit" fast. I did that yesterday and today and he already can sit on command. He is very bright. I'm concidering hanging a bell and teachign him how to ring thebell when he needs to go out, because he never barks and I need a way to know he has to go. We'll see how it goes.

    Leash training is difficult. He does not listen at all when he is outside, and he won't come when I call him. he just gets distracted to easily. Which is to be expected, he is only a baby. I'm going to enroll him in puppy classes as soon as he gets all of his shots. But yeah, overall I think he is doign exceptionally well...and so am I, concidering this is the first puppy I've ever trained.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaylinn View Post
    That is cool. His own little patch of grass.

    he is doing very well with the training. He has been going to the top of the steps to be let out. He had only 1 accident yesterday. None so far today. He is housebroken, so far as he knows to go outside, but he doesn't quite have a grasp yet on telling me when he has to go. He sometiems goes to the steps, sometimes he doesn't, but he is catching on fast. It's only been 3 days. He caught on to "sit" fast. I did that yesterday and today and he already can sit on command. He is very bright. I'm concidering hanging a bell and teachign him how to ring thebell when he needs to go out, because he never barks and I need a way to know he has to go. We'll see how it goes.

    Leash training is difficult. He does not listen at all when he is outside, and he won't come when I call him. he just gets distracted to easily. Which is to be expected, he is only a baby. I'm going to enroll him in puppy classes as soon as he gets all of his shots. But yeah, overall I think he is doign exceptionally well...and so am I, concidering this is the first puppy I've ever trained.
    The bell is something I've been wanting too. Except I haven't found a good one yet and I don't want to spend double the money on a "special dog bell" lol. It would be nice to not have to come downstairs as often to see if she needs out since I'm trying to get work done. A lot of times she'll come get me, she gives me a stare like she's trying to tell me but sometimes it's not to go out, it's for attention, lol.

    As soon as he gets all his shots we'll have to have puppy play dates!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaylinn View Post
    That is cool. His own little patch of grass.

    he is doing very well with the training. He has been going to the top of the steps to be let out. He had only 1 accident yesterday. None so far today. He is housebroken, so far as he knows to go outside, but he doesn't quite have a grasp yet on telling me when he has to go. He sometiems goes to the steps, sometimes he doesn't, but he is catching on fast. It's only been 3 days. He caught on to "sit" fast. I did that yesterday and today and he already can sit on command. He is very bright. I'm concidering hanging a bell and teachign him how to ring thebell when he needs to go out, because he never barks and I need a way to know he has to go. We'll see how it goes.
    good idea with the bell.....my dog used to claw/scratch at the side of the door to let us know she needed to be let out. Its been 13 years since she was around, but I just turned my head to the right and those damn scratches are still there on the door

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaylinn View Post
    If I catch him in the act of peeing I just say NO! and then outside! and run him out.
    As long as he is peeing outside for you this is fine, but beware of teaching him that he'll get punished if you catch him peeing at all, cause you do want him to go outside. It sounds like what you are doing is more of an interruption then a punishment, tho, which is perfect.

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    So am I doing this right? I've read horror stories about people who mess dogs up for life cause they do it wrong. I want a happy puppy.
    You are a model pupy owner. When I was a dog trainer I spent hours trying to get people to do these things that you're doing all on your own. I'm very impressed, especially since you've been so depressed lately.

    I don't know if you're interested in books, but if you are Don't Shoot The Dog, by Karen Pryor, and Culture Clash, by Jean Donaldson, are both great great books that I think the whole world should read.

    Oh, and when you look for a puppy class... APDT has a listing of good trainers that you can access through 1-800-PET-DOGS. The APDT certification is very good, I would definitely go with an APDT certified trainer if there's one in your area.



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    ^ Thank you, Lena. I've been trying very hard. I have never trained or owned a puppy before. Growing up we had dogs, but I was never involved in them, or teachign them. I've been reading everythign I can get my hands on, and will pick up the books you recommend.

    As long as he is peeing outside for you this is fine, but beware of teaching him that he'll get punished if you catch him peeing at all, cause you do want him to go outside. It sounds like what you are doing is more of an interruption then a punishment, tho, which is perfect.
    It is an interuption, and when I take himoutside and he pees, I praise him like crazy. I'm sure the neighbors think I'm nuts.

    You are a model pupy owner. When I was a dog trainer I spent hours trying to get people to do these things that you're doing all on your own. I'm very impressed, especially since you've been so depressed lately.
    Thank you for saying that. My boyfriend told me yesterday I was doing everythign wrong, and made me feel realyl bad because I've been trying to do everything perfect, and we have been making incredible improvments. It took me a day or 2 to get settled into a routine but after that, it's been smooth sailing. He said I'm not assertive enough because I refuse to rub his nose in his mess and spank him. Everythign I've read tells me that's wrong, and it makes sence. I don't want him to think his peeing is bad, and I read that rubbing his nose in it will teach him that, becaue he doesn't know that I mean peeing in the hosue is wrong, he will just think his pee is wrong. I never spank him. I yell to interupt bad behavior, and then I show him godo behavior, and when he does the good thing, I praise him.
    ( EDIT: My bf is a complete softie when it comes to animals. he is the spoiler softie. But he says he has used the rub nose in it method befor eand it works. I've never done this before and am just going off what I read. He is going off experience. Yes, that method may work, it's how my mother trained our dogs, but i don't hink it's the right method and may cause damage or cause him to trust me less. I wnt my puppy to trust me completly, while lookign up to me and listening to me. Him listening and obeying me starts with him trusting me. And being afraid to pee in front of me instills fear, not trust. I don't want him to listen caus ehe is afraid of me, I want him to listen because he wants to please me.)

    Just now he was playing on the floor and he stopped playign ran up to me and sat down and looked at me. I said Outside? And he stated to wag his tail and perked up. I took him out and he ran right to his potty spot and went. Previously, I had to carry him to the spot because he's scared to walk down the steps and go to the grass. He did soo good. I was very proud of him.

    I don't have time to be depressed anymore! He keeps me very busy. He needs exercise, he needs to play, and those are 2 different thigns. I have to do both with him. He plays well by himself, but he also needs me to play wit him. Plus he has to go outside every hour, he needs petted...it's a handful. I enjoy every moment of it.

    He is very jealous of the cats, and refuses to let me give them attention. I have been tryign to teach him that when a kitty is in my lap he needs to play by himself or lay down, because they need attention as well. Butter is fine with him but Peanut is very upset with him. She has swatted him twice and drawn blood once. He is very scared of her, and won't walk past her, but him and Buter are starting to play together. It's a process The cats have never seen a dog before and have had all of our attnetion to themselves since they were babies. I just think that the cats, Peanut espicially, who is sick and cranky to begin with, are anoyed by puppy energy. They don't know how to handle it, and they don't know if he is a threat or not. They don't know how to take his rambunctiousness.

    Getting this puppy was the best thing for me to do. He really keeps me busy and makes me happy and gives me purpose. and gives me doggy kisses.

    As soon as he gets all his shots we'll have to have puppy play dates!
    I would love that!!! So would he! Him and Guenevere would get along very very well. They are the same size he is a bit smaller right now, but he's strong!) and they are both balls of energy. They would have a lot of fun together. He is only 12 weeks old right now, and will get his last set of shots in a few weeks. He also needs microchipped, but he will get that done next week.
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    ^ Tell your boyfriend that while dogs do use aggression socially with each other, it's not sudden or unpredictable aggression. Unpredictable aggression is traumatic and will damage your relationship with your puppy. And make him read those books too.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaylinn View Post
    I would love that!!! So would he! Him and Guenevere would get along very very well. They are the same size he is a bit smaller right now, but he's strong!) and they are both balls of energy. They would have a lot of fun together. He is only 12 weeks old right now, and will get his last set of shots in a few weeks. He also needs microchipped, but he will get that done next week.
    Yay! Playdate!!

    Have you seen dog whisperer? Hubby and I've have been watching it lately, I think you'd like it.

    Don't let M make you think you're doing anything wrong either. Everything you've said sounds like your doing things exactly right! And it sounds like the baby is learning quickly!!

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    ok, my puppy has a problem that is annoying me like crazy. he will not walk on a leash He refuses. He won't walk down the steps to get outside and once we are out, he refuses to walk. I have to practicially drag him. If we are on our way home, he will run like the wind to the front door. He hates being outside. I don't know what to do to fix this. I want to take him on walks, and play outside, but he refuses. I've tried coaxing him with treats, toys, nothign works, and I don't know how to fix it and get him to walk. he is fearful of outside for some reason, or just hates the outdoors. He also refuses to listen to me when we are outside. he won' t come to me, he completly ignores me and just parks his butt.

    Does anyone know why he does this, or how I can fix it and get him to walk? It's not the leash he hates, inside he is just fine. It's the outside that he hates. Why? What can I do? He wears a harness. I don't use the collar because I don't want to hurt his neck.

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    You really need to watch dog whisperer!! Cesar is so good!

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