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    rather than having the 'ask cameron' as an email link, i'd have it go to another page where you can fill out a form which will be directly submitted to your email.

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    Cam, I'm thinking you need to do something attention grabbing. Maybe even a bit outrageous. I dunno. There a so many zillons of folks on the web seems to me that would be the only opportunity. Maybe folks here can huddle up and come up with something that would work!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darcy Foxx View Post
    rather than having the 'ask cameron' as an email link, i'd have it go to another page where you can fill out a form which will be directly submitted to your email.
    I think so too..I"ve already asked him about that and Im waiting for his reply

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madcap View Post
    No-one is going to pay to see an advice column. Hellen Keller could see that one.
    We dont expect people to...profit will be generated through ad sales and clicks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darcy Foxx View Post
    okay, here's an extremely basic example i just whipped up of a more user friendly site design.

    http://www.queenashlee.com/askahotmodel/

    once again, this is obviously extremely basic, but you get the idea. i think the title of the site needs to be attention grabbing, and people need to know what the point of the site is when they first look at it. the site needs to scream, "THIS IS WHAT MY PURPOSE IS"
    Damn, you're good

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    Quote Originally Posted by cameron_keys View Post
    We dont expect people to...profit will be generated through ad sales and clicks

    Well, i didn't think YOU would. But some don't seem to grasp that part, it's no big deal.

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    OK he changed it a bit,still in the works..

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    That middle pic with you in black, good fucking god... Whoever kisses you on the cheek at night is one lucky dude!

    WOW!

    I'll try to work up something to hit you with, something real and kinda hard. Then i'll tell some people. I've also hit you with Stumble. I'll hit you with stumble every time i look at your site.

    I wish you luck, cam. You are amazing.

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    sorry, but has this guy had any past experience in website design?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darcy Foxx View Post
    sorry, but has this guy had any past experience in website design?
    I've designed some websites, but i don't like doing it. One piece of advice is to make it active. If it's black have some sparkles or twinkling stars, if it's colorfull blow it out with color but leave the text area white or solid black (with red text, who can argue with Darth Vader). Your graphics or animations don't matter as much as the content does, but you want the visitor's brain lighting up when they see it.

    Think of a pet scan.

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    twinkling stars? are you serious? while we're at it, let's put in some marquee text and some cute animated GIF's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darcy Foxx View Post
    twinkling stars? are you serious? while we're at it, let's put in some marquee text and some cute animated GIF's.
    Hey, free gets what free is worth. This is what people who LIKE designing websites are for. What i meant was to make the thing active.

    Arg, those picky Austrailians! No wonder after the apocalypse they wind up with Mohawks jumping on moving cars!

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    it's true, i am excessively anal about site design.

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    I am with Darcy on this one... your site needs something that screams what you do! Honestly when I clicked on it just now I could easily be fooled that it is very armature looking and looks messy....

    Have a fiddle with it or try and do it yourself - looks like the guy who is promising you can't deliver


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    I just hate any sort of programming whatsoever. If i can't do it with frontpage, i find excuses to not do it. But i know what works on a finished page. Usually clever activity colorwise sells the show.

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    My biggest suggestion to any one designing a website is to draw it on a piece of paper first, take all your content and what not and sketch out what you want it to look like, then make it look like that, or get someone else to! Otherwise you can just get lost in all the possibilities. I think its a good idea but needs a bit more colour and life on the site, it's just a tad boring visually you know? Have fun anyway
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    Cam I just have one honest-2-god question....how do you keep up with the advice solicitations? I would be so overwhelmed and have yet to ask you a Q bc it'd be like a lost in the crowd thang imo....

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    Alaska,

    I got one for YOU! You live in the desert, how the hell do you keep that skin tone? That "I'm tan but not insane" look?

    Lets get to the bottom of THAT!

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    teeeheeheee that pic was taken in the depths of hellhole winter in Massachusetts a few days ago! I'm a Jersey girl like Cam, but maybe the diff is I never leave the house. and plus there's a high of 40 here, it's not hot!

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    Cameron,
    I highly recommend that you and/or your designer give this book a read:

    The Non-Designers Design Book by Robin Williams

    I had many professors in grad school use it in their courses, but it's very accessible to a complete novice. It will not teach you to create great masterpieces of web art. It will, however, teach you how to make a website that does not look amateurish or make common mistakes, but looks professional. It's $21.77 and an easy read.

    I work as a programmer now, so mostly back-end stuff, but most of my education was in (to put it basically) writing for and designing websites. In my professional opinion, you're getting good advice here. You helped me out with advice in the Ask Cameron thread, so I'd really like to help you out. Keep us posted with how the site develops and I'm happy to offer continual feedback, but for now:

    • Work to create a tighter navigation system. I'm in IT and tech-savvy, and I found it difficult to navigate. It's best to concentrate your own site's links into a menu. Generally you want this to be along the left-hand side or the top of the screen. In the west, the upper-left hand corner is where our eyes go first. That's the page's focal point, and a good start to your menu.
    • The prime real estate, the dead center of the screen, has a bunch of ad links. No! They'd be perfect along the right edge, or at the bottom, or if you must for the initial financial click-through traffic, spaced like a stacked hamburger of buns and meat, horizontally and neatly.
    • The book I suggested will talk about this, but you have a pinkish color theme going. Great! Develop it more. Make headings/titles bold pink. Make links pink with lighter pink roll-over, use pink for borders to organize content, etc. A color scheme will tie the whole site together more. It's one of the things that turns a collection of pages into a "site."
    • Likewise with consistent design. The menu should be in the same spot on all pages, and things shouldn't jump around. Each page looks almost like it was designed seperately, then "mushed" together. When I've created websites, the first (main/home) and second (or first page of content) take forever. After that, each additional page is the same design template, with some new content slapped in.
    • Proximity. The book will talk a lot more about this, but things that logically or conceptually go together should be physically together. Like in a newspaper, the caption/credits for a photo aren't on the other side of the page, they're immediately below it. So have an "articles" menu item, or even a whole menu of all recent articles with them listed underneath. With the proximity and the heading, people know "Oh, those are the advice articles!" When I first looked, I thought they were ad links.
    • The pictures page: use thumbnails, have the links display full-sized images. I can do this with Photoshop fairly quickly, but it's not an easy tool. There is (I think even free) software out there that will create thumbnails for you, given a set of images.
    • About you. You've got some credentials and experience that many don't have. Talk about it, have a Biography page and explain just why you're someone to give advice! Market yourself and your resume; it gives added credibility to the website. Credibility is important on the web, you have to prove yourself moreso than a real-world store. Any weirdo yahoo can put up a website, it takes a bit more to have a brick-store business.
    • Personal not professional opinion: it's an advice site, you have pictures of you in a business suit and glasses looking all sexy and smart, and that's not the main page image for an ADVICE website!?
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    omg, why is it so huge?!! lol lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alaska View Post
    teeeheeheee that pic was taken in the depths of hellhole winter in Massachusetts a few days ago! I'm a Jersey girl like Cam, but maybe the diff is I never leave the house. and plus there's a high of 40 here, it's not hot!
    Yep.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darcy Foxx View Post
    sorry, but has this guy had any past experience in website design?
    Yes...hes done several other sites like this and supposedly had good luck withthem. But hopefuly if we can incorporate al your great ideas..mine will be the most profitable!

    Quote Originally Posted by Alaska View Post
    Cam I just have one honest-2-god question....how do you keep up with the advice solicitations? I would be so overwhelmed and have yet to ask you a Q bc it'd be like a lost in the crowd thang imo....
    I just love it. It makes me feel needed and as if I have a purpose in this world...so it feeds me. THe more the better

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    Check it out now...Darcy...we took your advice and I like it much better now

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    Generally, all the pages should have the same look to them. If you are doing black background, do it all around, if white, do that.

    Also, he coded that thing up something funny. Whenever I click a link the images load at the bottom and get pushed up. It should not be doing that. Not to mention that the header image changes size between some pages.

    Where did he learn to code?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ Machismo View Post
    Generally, all the pages should have the same look to them. If you are doing black background, do it all around, if white, do that.

    Also, he coded that thing up something funny. Whenever I click a link the images load at the bottom and get pushed up. It should not be doing that. Not to mention that the header image changes size between some pages.

    Where did he learn to code?
    I agree that all backgrounds should be black...but I"m nto getting the image loading problem you are....

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