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    If this is such a great business for girls to make $$$, why then do so many of us don't? Why are we doing if for 5-15 years instead of making the cash to segue into something else. Even the lowest paying pro football player uses his money to start a business or something for when he's no longer playing. So what gives? Where are our houses, luxury cars, investments, and retirement funds? What factors are truly keeping us from becoming TOTALLY financially independent?

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    1) I was too insecure in the beginning to go work in a top club. Now I could.

    2) I did not work full-time, for various reasons.

    3) I blew the money I should have saved- I never had money to throw around before.

    4) I stupidly gave money to friends and family...Never again!

    Now I have a chance to never make those 5 mistakes before I retire for good from dancing. With what I know now, the only thing that can stop me from extracting financial security from stripping is dropping dead tommorrrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tmlsuperspice View Post
    If this is such a great business for girls to make $$$, why then do so many of us don't? Why are we doing if for 5-15 years instead of making the cash to segue into something else. Even the lowest paying pro football player uses his money to start a business or something for when he's no longer playing. So what gives? Where are our houses, luxury cars, investments, and retirement funds? What factors are truly keeping us from becoming TOTALLY financially independent?
    Because dancers don't make $300K a year like low paid pro ball players do. I'd be willing to bet that the median income for a full time dancer (30 hours a week or more) would be in the $60K range.

    Would everyone agree that $300 a shift is an average night? That is less than what a construction worker earns on average per day. (just to put the wages in perspective. I know, the construction business sucks right now)

    Stripping is very much a middle class income. It doesn't even touch the salaries of professional sports athletes. Not even close.

    Of course there are a few dancers that make $100K a year or more. But I'd say that is less than 10% of all working strippers in The USA. It is a myth that dancers make "so much money". I want to smack a guy upside the head if he thinks $30.00 an hour is big money.


    Promote yourself and earn more money! This is a business that is owned by strippers for strippers. Let's make that money!


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    BTW, where did you get the impression that strippers make such great money?


    Promote yourself and earn more money! This is a business that is owned by strippers for strippers. Let's make that money!


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    Dancers may not make $300,000 a year, but I know cocktail servers and fine dining waiters who would cry if they brought home only $300 a night. Besides, why aren't we making more?
    If dancing is such an empowering thing, and if men are so easy to manipulate for money, plus we're half naked, SHOULD WE BE MAKING MORE MONEY!!!???
    ....just a thought...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paris View Post
    BTW, where did you get the impression that strippers make such great money?
    If it ISN'T great money then why do it?
    Who goes through years to law school and hard studying to only make $60,000 a year? Not any lawyers I know. They're in it for the cash.
    Why put your sexuality on display for all the world to see if not for serious dollars?
    Sorry, I'm just playing devil's advocate I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paris View Post
    Because dancers don't make $300K a year like low paid pro ball players do. I'd be willing to bet that the median income for a full time dancer (30 hours a week or more) would be in the $60K range.
    Agreed. And the lifestyle is not conducive to saving and investing and sound planning. I'm not talking about drugs and partying--though I have certainly worked with my share of dancers who blew a lot that way. I'm talking about the hyped up facade that we who work in the clubs present to the outside world. There is far more and far better acting going on in the average stripclub than there is the average television show.

    When it's all done and I get home, I don't want to think about investments or financial planning, and I don't have to act nearly as much as the dancers do (though I have other stressful tasks to manage, trust me).

    I think it takes a certain kind of personality to deal with the unique atmosphere in the clubs, and that personality isn't generally as inclined to take a 60K income and turn it into a sound portfolio as say, an accountant would be.
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    I def agree w/what you're saying, tml. We should be making more. But what we should be doing and what we are doing may be two different things. I know that I, personally, haven't saved up as much as I should b/c instead of using stripping as a way to make/save loads of money, I use the flexibility of the hours to my advantage. I only recently started working more than 2 days a week. I only used to work 2 nights a week so that I could balance school work, a 4.0 GPA, and a social life, while also making enough money to pay bills and have some extra income to splurge. Therefore, even though I could, at one time, make average $500-$800+ per night, since I only worked 2 nights, it didn't really add up to much.

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    Some girls are too squeamish, lazy or "OTHER" to go the "The Extra Mile" to maximize income. (NO one better try to start a flame-fest over that statement...That is just MY opinion.) Today, air dancing will just get you insulted. The further you go, the more you make.
    Some old-school dancers mentioned on an old related thread that the earnings "back in the day" weren't too different from now, only there were less dancers and less clubs- less competition.
    There's also no way I'd ever cop truthfully to my income, in good times or bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tmlsuperspice View Post
    SHOULD WE BE MAKING MORE MONEY!!!???
    Yes. So should I. But I am biased, lol...
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    ^lollercopter!

    I had a post work convo with Djoser & he told me he made over $400 on his shift.


    I admitted to making $400 profit- for the week, after expenses (early December, slow times.)

    There's a lot of unpredictable factors to deal with as a dancer- it takes a strong person to handle it all. & Yes, the artsy-brained person is probably not going to take extra income & sock it away in investments.

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    I was making butt loads of money, and blowing it on the wierdest crap. (not Drugs. I don't even drink) I don't have any kids, any bill or anything to be responsible for. I have a sixty dollar cell phone bill. So boy did I waste money. Now I'm burnt out. I don't make what I used to. Not that I'm used up. I'm only 26 and 19 year olds are always telling me they thought I was their age. If I can the motivation back while I'm still hot, I'm getting me a roth IRa, and a whole bunch of other junk I've been reading about. I'm also taking classes on investing, and just reading. I can't say for anybody else. I was just dumb about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tmlsuperspice View Post
    If it ISN'T great money then why do it?
    Who goes through years to law school and hard studying to only make $60,000 a year? Not any lawyers I know. They're in it for the cash.
    Why put your sexuality on display for all the world to see if not for serious dollars?
    Sorry, I'm just playing devil's advocate I guess.
    I did it because it paid better than other jobs I was qualified for at the time. Of course there were the perks of the business:
    *I could tell a customer to fuck off and still have a job the next day
    *Sexy clothes
    *Freedom to travel
    *artistic expression on stage
    *meeting some really awesome people
    *can drink and do drugs while on the job, and no one criticized me for it.
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    Got to party for a living
    *Tax deductions on things like plastic surgery, manicures and shoes.

    I'm more about personal career satisfaction than I am about money. I liked the idea that I was able to earn a decent middle class income while pushing my personal anti-establishment philosophy. I put my money where my mouth was, so to speak.

    A career that allows you to rebel while remaining within the law is a rare one, indeed.

    I didn't have to attend University to become a stripper, hence I would assume that someone that spent many thousands of $$'s to get edumacated would be very angry to get a job that pays what a plumber or electrician or auto mechanic could earn going to 9 months of trade school.


    Promote yourself and earn more money! This is a business that is owned by strippers for strippers. Let's make that money!


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    Quote Originally Posted by madmaxine View Post
    I had a post work convo with Djoser & he told me he made over $400 on his shift.
    Hell, I made 850$ one night, but the last thing I thought about when I got home was investing it, lol. I was fried.
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    Honestly - I cant even vote on such a biased pole.

    My money went to rent, childcare, food, clothes, utilities, car payment, etc that every single middle class american spends their money on. But rather than working 40-60 hours a week I got:

    Freedom to work part time and still have my happy middle-class family and home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tmlsuperspice View Post
    Dancers may not make $300,000 a year, but I know cocktail servers and fine dining waiters who would cry if they brought home only $300 a night. Besides, why aren't we making more?
    If dancing is such an empowering thing, and if men are so easy to manipulate for money, plus we're half naked, SHOULD WE BE MAKING MORE MONEY!!!???
    ....just a thought...
    I think you answered your own question right there. It is not an easy job. And who says men are easy to manipulate? Only the stupid ones are easy to manipulate, and stupid = no money in my experience.

    I'd rank it up there with being a stock broker as far as ease of reaching the big money. Most do okay, some go broke and a few get very, very rich.


    Promote yourself and earn more money! This is a business that is owned by strippers for strippers. Let's make that money!


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    I'll be rich one day.



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    I actually did really well when I was working. Had a nice house, nice car, kid in childcare and extra money to put away for a rainy day. I had a couple of really good regulars though, and I didn't do anything "extra", just used my winning personality. Seriously.

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    My reasons are in line with Paris's.

    - #1 reason: It's a portable skill. I travel every two months for most of the year for my other job, and I can get a job where I make my own schedule dancing in nearly any city. Also, most clubs don't mind a dancer who says she's only going to be around on weekdays, and for two months.

    - Even on nights I don't do well, I know that I did well last week, or yesterday, and that I can do well tomorrow. The earning potential is great, even when the earnings themselves aren't.

    - I have a sleep disorder. It's easier for me to maintain a job with night hours.

    - I get paid to party, run around naked and flirt with people, and be as bitchy as I please. These things would get me fired anywhere else!

    In any case, I don't think most of us are making bank most of the time.
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    When I read the options I seriously thought a non-stripper must've posted this.

    Heck, I'm one of the 100k a year girls and even though I save as much as I can, it takes quite a few years to make it rich rich. I have a plan to be a millionaire by 30, but what can I say? Even being a high earner, I still need to work 10-15 years to be rich. o.O;


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lysondra View Post
    Even being a high earner, I still need to work 10-15 years to be rich. o.O;

    Agreed.



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    Most strippers start dancing because they're broke. Whether it's the need to pay off debt, or school, or support a family. It's unfair to say it's because they're dumb. Some people are dealt harder cards than others, some come from families that live paycheck to paycheck. The problem is that money itself doesn't heal a poor financial education. Most dancers start out very young and make the same mistakes all young people do, they just have a lot more money to blow.

    Many people think being rich means looking rich, thus the handbags and expensive clothes. If you've never had money before, and come from a family that never has, being able to have those things is pretty exciting. One of the biggest mistakes I see dancers getting into is the huge payments (car, boobs, house) that they take on in the honeymoon stage. Later, when the burden of big payments and burnout collide it can be a slippery slope to financial disaster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lysondra View Post
    When I read the options I seriously thought a non-stripper must've posted this.


    I didnt vote because how rudely all the choices were written.

    No, I didnt save and invest and could have done better but I dont think that makes me dumb - I was young and didnt think about it or know any better... If I went back to dancing full time now Id be a lot smarter about it but unfortunately thats not an option right now...

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    I totally agree with shakti.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tmlsuperspice View Post
    If it ISN'T great money then why do it?
    Who goes through years to law school and hard studying to only make $60,000 a year? Not any lawyers I know. They're in it for the cash.
    Why put your sexuality on display for all the world to see if not for serious dollars?
    Sorry, I'm just playing devil's advocate I guess.
    I'm pretty much onboard with Paris's statements.

    1. 300 a night I would say is pretty average for most strippers. Some strippers would die if they made that much, also most strippers on stripperweb tend to be the higher earners so you can't go by what the average stripperweber makes compared to the average stripper. Also 300 dollars a night means something completely different if you live in Iowa or Ohio compared to Las Vegas or New York when you account for cost of living and the local economy. I was a stripper at one of the top clubs in my area and was one of the highest earners in no way, shape, or form, would I have classified myself as rich. Also, most strippers actually overinflate how much they make.

    2. Most people, not just strippers, can't manage their money. The average American has close to 10 K in Credit Card debt alone. Even people who are well educated often can't manage their money. Look at all the Americans who are loosing their homes due to adjustable rate mortgages. Most strippers are young women without educations and that demographic is going to even be worse at investing and saving than the general population which already is sucky. I know people who make well over 100 K a year (non strippers) who can't manage their money. Speaking to which...

    3. Paris is dead on about how much we make. There are plenty of jobs that make just as much or more than strippers, many that only required a 2 year degree or trade school. RNs make more money than strippers, many Computer Specialists make more money than strippers. Stripping has many benefits that other jobs don't, such as the hours and the lifestlye (I will honestly say that most of the time I really ENJOYED my job.) Some of those people have made investments and live great but many are still just living from paycheck to paycheck even if they make 100 K a year. Again, its all well how invest your money which most people don't know how to do (hence part 2.)

    4. The stripping economy is very whimsical and you never know how much you will make. It makes it difficult for people to save in that situation.

    5. Men can just watch tv commercials or go to the mall to see beautiful women. Yes, the female form is great but its not like being a pro-athelete or doctor or business professional. Most healthy young women look pretty so it's not like its a rare comodity or exceptional skill. (Though skill is needed to be a really good stripper, but even then it's not like going to school for 8 years.)
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