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    Quote Originally Posted by Daisa View Post
    I don't know about anyone else, but $1000 seems like a small price to help a friend who happens to be innocent, as you've stated. You also said that she's a good person, willing to help others... You seem to believe that buying her 3 weeks isn't worth a grand. Do you have any clue what jail can be like? All I can say is hope you never find out...
    Agreed 100%

    Obviously Kyle is going to think over his freakin options to death and meanwhile shes stuck in jail. Maybe in 6 months he'll come to a decision. Obviously he really doesnt care (if this is a true life situation) and not a bunch of BS crap.

    You obviously do NOT care about this girl or give a flying f*ck what happens to her or youd be going to each and every bonds company finding one that will get her out.

    But thats my opinion - I think youre an idiot.

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    I'm still amazed that this girl is being held in custody without being arraigned for a period of 3 weeks ! Under those circumstances, I would have thought that the most brain-dead public defender could have filed a Habeus Corpus writ to force the local cops / DA to either formally charge her or release her. Something smells extremely fishy ...

    ... like for example, she was actually arraigned right after she was busted, a specific charge was listed, bail was set, nobody paid the bail, and whoosh off she went to the county lockup awaiting her trial date. Perhaps the DA is considering summary dismissal of the case, or perhaps the DA is working with the PD on a plea bargain, but unless the 'rule book' has been totally thrown out the window she HAS been charged with a crime. Not only that, but the crime is serious enough that 3 weeks of jail time constitutes a small percentage of the typical sentence for being found guilty of that crime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daisa View Post
    I don't know about anyone else, but $1000 seems like a small price to help a friend who happens to be innocent, as you've stated. You also said that she's a good person, willing to help others... You seem to believe that buying her 3 weeks isn't worth a grand. Do you have any clue what jail can be like? All I can say is hope you never find out...
    I visited her. It is hell. BELIEVE IT. She is tiny and doesn't eat much, but she claims the food portions are very small even for a person like herself. Unfortunately, I can believe it. She went in just a little underweight or perhaps the right weight. She might be bones by the time I see her.

    Well, I see it as an extortion rackett. In fact, The Herald had a story years back about how some bondspeople were working with judges or maybe it was just clerks and the bondsperson never risked any of the posted bond. Just collected premiums. It is a sweet game for everyone except those having premiums extorted out of them.

    Her brother is having trouble just putting a $20 in her account! Yes, I understand that for a good number of people $1,000 is nothing. And, under different circumstances like an honest court system it wouldn't be much too me either. Without an honest court system, the game changes. I become extremely distrustful. For example, the often repeated nonsense about getting a lawyer. That ime is just plain stupid. Even if all the attorneys explain the law and case as if they were clones it still comes down to having honest judges and an honest system.

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    Default Re: Arrested At Club--Experience with getting bond, etc.

    Okay, I could say a lot here, but several girls have already spoken up very similarly to what I would say, and done it better than I could probably, so I will simply say this:

    Either put the damn money up to get her out if it means that much to you, or jump ship, so to speak.

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    You are an idiot. Stop your damn whining. We get it - you dont want to bond her out. My God your ignorance must be bliss.

    What, exactly, was the point of this thread? You obviously dont want to bond her out so why start a thread asking what you already knew?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie View Post
    I'm still amazed that this girl is being held in custody without being arraigned for a period of 3 weeks ! Under those circumstances, I would have thought that the most brain-dead public defender could have filed a Habeus Corpus writ to force the local cops / DA to either formally charge her or release her. Something smells extremely fishy ...

    ... like for example, she was actually arraigned right after she was busted, a specific charge was listed, bail was set, nobody paid the bail, and whoosh off she went to the county lockup awaiting her trial date. Perhaps the DA is considering summary dismissal of the case, or perhaps the DA is working with the PD on a plea bargain, but unless the 'rule book' has been totally thrown out the window she HAS been charged with a crime.
    Yes, she has been charged and $10,000 bail set. However, the arraignment date is for the 22nd where the government will decide whether to proceed and the judge will decide if there is enough evidence to proceed.

    I learned today a Pre-Trial Service Release Motion will be filed. I still haven't spoken to her public defender. The law means diddley, but her public defender's opinion is very important to me in that they have experience as far as what to expect. If the public defender says she will be rotting, then I have to get together with her brother and see what papers if any he is willing to sign with the bondsperson. I have the money so it comes down to what the bailbondsperson is willing to do.

    I also learned she is still alive and breathing, but perhaps pissed off because she hasn't called me or it could be she didn't want to wait forever for a broken phone like the last time I tried to speak with her. I don't blame her for being pissed. But, heck don't just be pissed with me. Be pissed with the government. Be pissed with the "real" friends. Be pissed with mom and dad who are so religious that they want to see you rot.


    I'm pissed with those who assume $1,000 is nothing to everyone. Well, I was raised to cut coupons, only buy on sale, eat bad food, wear second-hand clothes, etc. etc. etc. Also, I was raised to believe theft is wrong. Thus, I don't appreciate having money extorted from me for no good reason. Have the damn arraignment and let's get the bs moving.
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    Don't worry I will jump ship if I have to risk more than $1,000. I already told her that, btw. Supposedly, some bondspeople offer no collateral bonds. Heaven forbid, I ask if there are any dancers in this area who have experience with this garbage.

    It is like when I need a car repaired. I read, ask questions especially about other people's experiences, and comparison shop. It might take a few weeks, but then I don't have endless amounts of money to give away. This poor girl gets ripped off, big time when it comes to fixing her car. After all these years, I still think she may still be doing the same bs because she isn't into cars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle1111
    I'm pissed with those who assume $1,000 is nothing to everyone.
    Hmmmm, ok
    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle1111
    I actually put my money where my mouth is unlike her "real" friends.
    And where is this supposed mouth you speak of?
    Did you forget about this post?
    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle1111
    I already have a $1,000 to help her out and have already spent $200 that I will never see again. However, I'm not 1) going to risk more than $1,000
    And this one
    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle1111
    So, I'm willing to lose $1,000
    And this one
    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle1111
    I'm not that concerned with a $1,000.
    Uhm, ok dude, whatever, youre so full of it - you talk out of both sides of your mouth. Or maybe just the one in the first post? Or maybe another one?!

    So you say youll risk $1000 but then again youre all worried about this and that and blah blah blah. What is the deal? You make no friggen sense - all you do is argue with posts.Ive never seen so many excuses about one thing in my LIFE. Shes smart to not talk to you anymore - probably got sick of the runaround which is what this is.

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    Hi AudreyLeigh,

    I have absolutely NO idea what you're posting about. None.

    I've been very clear. I won't risk more than a $1,000 (for a bond premium) and I will wait to see what happens on the 22nd. A number of things can happen at the arraignment. The government may decide not to proceed. The government will proceed, but the judge decides there is insufficient evidence and dismisses the case. The judge decides to release Michelle with a simple promise to appear for trial. The government, judge, and public defender decide Michelle will be released immediately if she accepts a plea deal. I mean the list of options that can happen at the arraignment date is extensive to put it mildly. EXTENSIVE.

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    Kyle, its because you are keep b.s.ing and saying contradictory things. I have scanned your past posts thosts and realized that you are scitzophrenic. Most of the readers of stripperweb have very good reading comprehension skills but your crap makes no sense. You obviously don't give a damn about your friend since you are willing to let her rot in jail until she is arrainged. And not all of us are strippers. I am retired (for now) and only work 20 hours a week tutoring math but if a beloved friend or family member needed money for bond and I knew they were innocent, to hell or high water I would make bond money, and I would hope that they would do the same for me. I wouldn't wait until their arraingment, I would get them out as soon as I KNEW they were in jail.

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    Thank you!!!!

    And for the record - Im no longer a dancer, I make $9/hr but if a friend or family member was in need you bet your ass I would do WHATEVER I could do to get them out. Id pawn every electronic I owned that day so they could be out. Youre sitting there with the money going blah blah blah.

    scitzophrenic - that makes sense. I feel like Im going in circles and am like c'mon - you have to understand what Im saying one of these times but he never will. This poor girl. She was counting on you - thats why shes not talking to you anymore. Damn, I feel sorry for her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AudreyLeigh View Post
    Hmmmm, ok

    And where is this supposed mouth you speak of?
    Did you forget about this post?

    And this one

    And this one

    Uhm, ok dude, whatever, youre so full of it - you talk out of both sides of your mouth. Or maybe just the one in the first post? Or maybe another one?!

    So you say youll risk $1000 but then again youre all worried about this and that and blah blah blah. What is the deal? You make no friggen sense - all you do is argue with posts.Ive never seen so many excuses about one thing in my LIFE. Shes smart to not talk to you anymore - probably got sick of the runaround which is what this is.
    Yes, I will risk $1,000 and if that was all there was then I wouldn't be too concerned. I keep getting the collateral bs. I'm not putting up any collateral or risking more than $1,000. Also, there is a HUGE difference between risking $1,000 and *giving* a bailbondsperson $1,000. Do you understand the difference?

    Today, I will happily *risk* $1,000 to get Michelle out of jail. I won't *give away* $1,000 to get Michelle out of jail today. Do you see the difference? I don't think you do. I'm about 95% sure Michelle will show for trial and risking a $1,000 doesn't bother me even a little. She flees then I lose, but at least she is free temporarily. Giving away $1,000 dollars bothers me a great deal. Do you understand yet? I don't think so. Now, after the arraignment I'm willing to give away $1,000 if necessary so the Michelle can get out of jail. I will NOT put up collateral or get involved like that with a bondsperson!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle1111 View Post
    Yes, I will risk $1,000 and if that was all there was then I wouldn't be too concerned. I keep getting the collateral bs. I'm not putting up any collateral or risking more than $1,000. Also, there is a HUGE difference between risking $1,000 and *giving* a bailbondsperson $1,000. Do you understand the difference?

    Today, I will happily *risk* $1,000 to get Michelle out of jail. I won't *give away* $1,000 to get Michelle out of jail today. Do you see the difference? I don't think you do. I'm about 95% sure Michelle will show for trial and risking a $1,000 doesn't bother me even a little. She flees then I lose, but at least she is free temporarily. Giving away $1,000 dollars bothers me a great deal. Do you understand yet? I don't think so. Now, after the arraignment I'm willing to give away $1,000 if necessary so the Michelle can get out of jail. I will NOT put up collateral or get involved like that with a bondsperson!
    Haha - so youll *risk* it but you wont "give it away" which in anycase may be what you're doing when you *risk* it. Ummm, ok

    Nope, still not understanding. Maybe you should explain this whole *risk* thing again.

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    I wonder about the reading skills.

    There is a huge difference between giving away $1,000 and risking $1,000.


    So far, I'm the only one spending money. You know putting money in her jail account costs money. Getting a prepaid telephone arrangement costs money. Paying her pawn tickets costs money. Driving to the jails and parking costs money.

    Where oh where did you get the idea it was just a $1,000? I wish!!! No, an uneducated person might be fooled into believing that. Her brother or someone besides me will need to sign papers and or put up collateral that will far exceed the "mere" $1,000 premium.

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    So, I ask again, what is the point of this thread when you obviously already knew what you were going to do in the first place which is wait for an arraignment?

    Ive bonded people out. I would never bond someone out that I didnt trust because if they dont go to trial I *risk* owing the entire bail. You dont trust her. OK, got it. Youre afraid she wont go to trial. OK, got it.

    So I'll post again

    So, I ask again, what is the point of this thread when you obviously already knew what you were going to do in the first place which is wait for an arraignment?

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    Ok you have started this post on 1/11 @6:30am its now 1/14 late afternoon.What have you done to help this person out ?

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    Hes waiting until the arraignment on 1/22 to decide if hell bond her out then.

    So, in essence - the only thing hes done is provide me amusement on the internet.

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    Yep and there is a HUGE difference. LOL! Risking the $1,000 I *may* indeed be giving it permanently to the court. That ain't a problem--it is just a deal that went South.

    Giving the $1,000 it is completely gone and I have NO chance of getting it back even if Michelle does everything on time and correctly as per the judge's orders .

    Big big difference. Sorry, if you still can't see the difference between risking $1,000 and giving away $1,000.

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    #1 rule to remember when "loaning" or "risking" money.

    Always make sure its money youre willing to "lose" i.e. "give away"

    THATS why your posts seem so ignorant to me. And it makes me LOL that you think Im a total idiot because I am very smart and understand and comprehend some of your posts - the few that make any sense at all.

    But what makes me LOL the most is that you still havent answered the question Ive posted oh, 1/2 a dozen times.

    What was the point of this thread if you already knew what you were going to do in the first place?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle1111 View Post
    Yep and there is a HUGE difference. LOL! Risking the $1,000 I *may* indeed be giving it permanently to the court. That ain't a problem--it is just a deal that went South.

    Giving the $1,000 it is completely gone and I have NO chance of getting it back even if Michelle does everything on time and correctly as per the judge's orders .

    Big big difference. Sorry, if you still can't see the difference between risking $1,000 and giving away $1,000.
    I understand the difference very well. Hence I don't understand the whole point of you:
    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle1111
    Not a pleasant subject.

    The dancer has been in jail for 10 days and the arraignment is on the 22nd. There is a chance, maybe a good chance, that the charges will be dropped at that time. However, if the charges aren't dropped then I'd like to be prepared. Bond is currently set at $10,000 and my experience with bail bonds fortunately is zilch. I spoke with friends and those with experience were like be CAREFUL.

    An positive experience dealing with bail bond companies especially in the Miami area? I'm not even sure the type of bond that I'm looking for exists i.e. no collateral or guarantee required just pay the non-refundable 10%.
    This is just dumb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle1111
    An positive experience dealing with bail bond companies especially in the Miami area? I'm not even sure the type of bond that I'm looking for exists i.e. no collateral or guarantee required just pay the non-refundable 10%.
    My positive bond experience

    I paid bond on a guy I was dating because the idiot got a DUI. Said idiot went to mandated court dates. Never heard from courts or bond people again.

    So, why is this chick still rotting in jail?

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    How is it dumb? I think the charges will be dropped. If they aren't, then I *may* need a bailbondsperson.

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    I realize the bond may be lowered or eliminated.

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    Honey, if they were going to drop the charges it would have been done already. Shes been there what? 2 weeks now? I give up - you are too dense to penetrate.

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    Damn. My husband was arrested for something really stupid he did while we were living in Miami. I almost pissed my pants since I never had to deal with something like that before. Luckily the cops allowed me to follow them to the jail (and they didn't arrest me for punching my man in front of them after I found out they were going to arrest him). Once they took him inside I was all alone. I ended up sobbing in my car for maybe 2 hours freaking out.

    Behind the jail there were two bondsmen offices. I went in to the one I felt most comfortable with and thank goodness the man in charge had a huge heart. I told him our life story almost and he allowed me to give him a 200 dollar check because that's all I had in my bank account at the time. The only collateral I had was my car so I had to hand over the title I think it was for that along with signing a bunch of papers. Once they got him out of jail a few hours later I wrote him another check of 300 dollars to let them know we were serious and weren't going to run. I don't remember what the bond amount was but definitely not 10 grand.

    Oh yeah, my husband thanked me without end once I got him out as soon as I could because he said it was one of the worst jails he's ever seen (and he used to be a cop) and he couldn't even imagine being left in there for weeks which he would have been if I didn't save his ass.

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