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    UGH!! So far this year, and always on weekends at my club, we are getting this stupid surge of idiot men who think this is some sort of bad dating service, instead of what it really is.

    Excerpts from last night:

    Me: "Blah blah blah.....so, ready to go have some more fun?"
    Him: "Nah, I don't do lapdances. I'd rather take you on a date."
    My head: Honestly, what the fuck. Who said I wanted to go on a date with you in the first place?? Because I definitely don't.


    Me (after talking for a song and sensing a douschebag-who-doesn't-spend vibe): "OK, well would you like to go to the back?"
    Him: "Nah. You go make your money. Come back later when you've made your money."
    My head: Yeah fucken right


    (Right after a lapdance)
    ME: So do you want to keep going?
    HIM: Is that it?? I thought it was 2 for $20! Its ALWAYS been 2 for 20!!
    ME: HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA. Um no definitely not.


    ME (fed up with this pompous asshole): Well I have to get going. You know, you can tip me.
    HIM: I'll give you $100, but only if you go out to dinner with me
    ME: $100 just for dinner? OK, bye.


    GUY AT THE BAR: Sure I'll buy you a shot. Only if I can get your number first. Write it down right now before I buy it for you
    MY HEAD: My damn number for a $10 shot?
    ME ACTUALLY: Sure. Here ya go (Writes down number of the club). So how bout that shot?



    Just on and on and on like this. Why do all these men want to take a stripper home to meet the parents? Honestly, I'm not that great LOL. Can't they just freakin objectify me and look at my tits and ass!?? The worst part is these guys drop the "lets go on a date" line during a fucken LD, so I feel compelled to say "Maybe" or "Sure we'll talk about it later" (then avoid them) because I want them to STFU and keep spending!!!! If I ever say "I don't know" or "I don't date guys from here" they will launch into some whiny bitchfest "Oh come onnnn. Please? I'm really nice, I'll be so nice to you. I have my cell phone right here nobody's looking."

    I used to tell customers I have a boyfriend, but the girls I work with practically died when I told them that. They were like "WTF is wrong with you, say you're single!! Then they'll spend more!!" Honestly, when I tell them "Single" they do not make a beeline for the CR or anything. They just think they can "get" me, which is totally wrong. Monday I'll be back to "having a boyfriend" hahaha. Maybe that'll shut the whining up.

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    lol. I totally understand. It's like "just see me as a sex object and spend money on me you douchebag". The best thing is to just change the subject and if a guy would be way too pushy I would probably end up just leaving. I especially would hate the "If I get a VIP can we do breakfast/dinner?" It's like I make enough money to buy my own meals thank you!

    Then these guys get all pissed off and are like "You are just in it for the money", they are just coming up to see our tits and ass so it's a fair trade.

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    These guys always come in droves, don't they? It seems like I won't get asked on a date for a month, and then it will happen four times in one shift. UGH.

    "Come back when you've made your money?" Is he kidding?

    You know what's sad.... the regular I have now is actually so naive, he really believed that girls worked in strip clubs just to look for husbands. He honestly thought that every shift was a "man hunt" for them- the dancers only approached customers they were attracted to and only danced for men they felt a connection with, and that as soon as they found "their man," they would give up dancing forever. I couldn't figure out why, every time he'd come to see me, he'd ask, "Why do you still want to do this? Don't we have a good time together? Let me know when you don't want to anymore...."

    Normally I'd find this pathetic and ridicule him, but he came from such a sheltered background I just politely clued him in that dancing is just a job. Of course, he still thinks he and I have a connection- I'm not ruining my money because he's dellusional. Unfortunately, the son of a bitch keeps referring to the movie Pretty Woman and how he's going to "rescue" me from this life as soon as he has the money. Maybe that's why I don't feel guilty about leading him on a little bit.... I really don't want to be compared to an 80's hooker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SexyJess View Post
    "Come back when you've made your money?" Is he kidding?
    I know!! What does one even SAY to that?? Seriously....I'm open to suggestions!!

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    ^Heh, I've heard that one before. I go, "Sure" and just never come back since he's obviously a waste of time. Unfortunately, some of them will try to flag you down later and ask if you are "ready yet".
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    That shit infuriates me, when they think they are the exception and can get to know you as a friends and sit and talk for free. I usually get up and leave as soon as I find out they are this type of asshole.

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    OMG I HATE this! Why on earth do they assume that we're all single and/or looking for men at work?! Some naive younger guy who had just broken up with his girlfriend of years was chatting with me and asking who gave the best lap dance in the club because it was his first time in a strip club and therefor it would be his first lap dance. It was the end of the night and I wasn't humoring him, I told him it was objective. Every dance was different and there was no "best" because all men like something different. He was annoying me and I was like: "Dude. It's just a lap dance." and he was like: "But I'm looking for more than a lap dance." Not necessarily extras, but romance. *gags* I told him that he wasn't going to find it here and that we aren't a singles bar. He actually sucked it up and took it pretty well and left nicely. More than a lap dance?! Book a singles cruise dude!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AznExtasy View Post
    That shit infuriates me, when they think they are the exception and can get to know you as a friends and sit and talk for free. I usually get up and leave as soon as I find out they are this type of asshole.

    I think I'm going to have to start doing this too. Mid-sentence would be best. I have heard the sentence "Go make your money off of these schmucks and then come back and talk to ME" way too many times to justify staying around for the whole phrase. LOL. Why do they think they are special?!???

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    It's also their way of saying that they're broke and that you're not gonna make any dough off 'em. Losers.

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    ^^Surprise surprise right?? I love how like 99% of them claim to be "millionaire CEOS/businessmen," yet they cannot afford $20 for a damn dance!! Or how they cannot afford to buy a girl a damn drink without harassing her for a number or something stupid. That's not even how it works at a REAL bar, for fucks sake.

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    He: Go make your...
    Me: K have fun! as I'm getting up and moving on to the next target

    No need to stick around to hear the rest of that sentence and get frustrated.


    Actually this is my response to every one of those lines in the OP. There is absolutely no point wasting time with these dudes. Better to spend that same time working other dudes who are more agreeable, or at least not letting the time-wasters ruin your mood for the money guys who come along later.

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    It's not only the fact that you're pretty and "available", it's because a dancer is a fantasy figure to many guys, right up there alongside nurses, policewomen, etc.

    Being a guy I get the dubious pleasure of overhearing conversations between customers when no dancers are in earshot. You wouldn't believe the misconceptions many guys have about strippers and stripping.

    But the fact that guy's think a strip club is a place to go get dates is a big motivating factor in guys spending on you. How much lower would your earnings be without the (delusional) belief that they can get to meet you OTC?

    Many customers don't want to confront the thought that they're spending money on someone who has absolutely no interest in them other than as a source or revenue. So they convince themselves that they can establish a 'connection' with you and get a date - so in their mind the money they're spending has a deeper purpose than just paying you to get naked.

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    I understand some guys who spend do so with the expectation of possibly dating or seeing me again otc. I have no problem with that, later they usually realize on their own that I was only selling a fantasy and they will have to keep returning to the club to see me. It's the assholes who skip the spending part and expect me to waste a huge chunk of my time with them and expect to somehow go out with me and sleep with me, those are the ones I can give a swift kick in the nuts to.

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    I dunno what to say about the "Come back later" guy, but I always told the guys that asked me out that I didn't like to take my work home with me. If you say it in just the right way, with a flirty grin on your face, they'll usually keep buying dances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fionaver View Post
    I dunno what to say about the "Come back later" guy, but I always told the guys that asked me out that I didn't like to take my work home with me. If you say it in just the right way, with a flirty grin on your face, they'll usually keep buying dances.
    That's an interesting tactic. I might try it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil-W View Post
    It's not only the fact that you're pretty and "available", it's because a dancer is a fantasy figure to many guys, right up there alongside nurses, policewomen, etc.

    Being a guy I get the dubious pleasure of overhearing conversations between customers when no dancers are in earshot. You wouldn't believe the misconceptions many guys have about strippers and stripping.

    But the fact that guy's think a strip club is a place to go get dates is a big motivating factor in guys spending on you. How much lower would your earnings be without the (delusional) belief that they can get to meet you OTC?

    Many customers don't want to confront the thought that they're spending money on someone who has absolutely no interest in them other than as a source or revenue. So they convince themselves that they can establish a 'connection' with you and get a date - so in their mind the money they're spending has a deeper purpose than just paying you to get naked.

    Phil.
    First-I almost want to know the stuff they say! Thread! Thread!

    Secondly-there's a difference between thinking they can 'get' us, flirting, etc and guys who INSIST they get our number before buying a dance or drink, or insist we talk for an hour plus before getting even one dance. Which is how the guys have been at this club. Way worse than usual-the clubs full of them as of late and few people are making money. I don't mind the illusion, but damn, who told these guys we were there to date them?

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    Are you new at this club? The reason why I ask is that the customers may be looking for OTC extras, not a girlfriend. There's only one way to find out of a stripper is actually a hooker...ask her.


    Promote yourself and earn more money! This is a business that is owned by strippers for strippers. Let's make that money!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Paris View Post
    Are you new at this club? The reason why I ask is that the customers may be looking for OTC extras, not a girlfriend. There's only one way to find out of a stripper is actually a hooker...ask her.

    Can't speak for cutey, but I've been there (same club) since October and it wasn't like this until halfway through December. All of a sudden, so many guys like this.

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    YD, I think you want http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=167
    The poster above did not want to run into the actual customer who calls us vultures here, on the site where she comes to feel safe and to talk to others in her business. She was probably hoping that Phil could tell her some interesting stories about things that customers say that are not necessarily insutling, like that comment could be.
    Do you think we don't get messed with enough, that it needs to be reinforced? Especially in the one place we come to get some refuge and support?
    Thanks. We all feel so ashamed and enlightened, now.










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    Quote Originally Posted by cutey5032 View Post
    ^^Surprise surprise right?? I love how like 99% of them claim to be "millionaire CEOS/businessmen," yet they cannot afford $20 for a damn dance!!
    I always wonder what would ensue if someone fell for their fraudulent attempts at pick-up, like, what would he say to the girl once it's become obvious that he is not a millionaire. "Um yeah, we'll head over in my '92 Taurus to the budget motel I'm staying at for our 'thousand-dollar' tryst...?" Whenever sex-seekers offer me insane amounts of money that I know they do not have I always wonder what would happen if I actually agreed, were they planning on banging me and then giving me an IOU?

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    Oh and Paris I am not new. I have been working since June. Although we have a lot of
    "regular" customers, we also get a lot of travel clientele

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    Quote Originally Posted by YD View Post
    Oh come on, 95% of the threads I can see on here are either bragging about "cheating" a guy out of his money or asking how to do it
    The obviously you didn't read enough of it before posted with your assumptions. Phil-W's a guy who post regularily, who has a positive view on strippers and a good sense of humor. So, I wouldn't mind any funny things he's heard guys say, especially on the subject of this thread. You are some random person popping in to add your .02. Go to the blue side if you want to complain.

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    This reminds me of thise guy who's a regular at every club I've ever been in in *state*. He shows up on Fridays or Saturdays, in a blazer with jeans, with his hair slicked back. He always has wine, with expensive-looking glasses that he brings himself, and he barely tips the bartender (whose time he will monopolize), much less the girls on stage.

    And god forbid you ask him for a lapdance. I've seen him be really rude and nasty to countless girls just for that "social infraction." He honestly really believes that because over the years a couple of girls have been dumb/naive enough to go to his swinger parties or on dates with him, that he's dated enough strippers to justify treating the clubs as singles bars. And will get pissy with anyone who so much as suggests that he might be in the wrong place to pick up chicks.

    For everyone else, I just patiently explain that I'm not going to be in town for that much longer, and I'm working almost the whole time I'm still here, to make sure I get to the next place I'm going, so as much as I'd love to hang out, it would really be easier if we just make the most of the time we have here. And if that doesn't get the dance/VIP, I'm gone.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zinaida View Post
    Whenever sex-seekers offer me insane amounts of money that I know they do not have I always wonder what would happen if I actually agreed, were they planning on banging me and then giving me an IOU?
    I think the hope is that after they stick their magic golden cocks in you, you'll be so entranced that you'll fall in love, or at least forget all about the money because they're just so damn amazing in bed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by misslizzy View Post
    I think the hope is that after they stick their magic golden cocks in you, you'll be so entranced that you'll fall in love, or at least forget all about the money because they're just so damn amazing in bed.
    Probably. I can just see it now: "We've got such a great connection. I'd feel like I was degrading you if I pay you..."

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