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    After about 1 year of being a regular regular (and being gone from this board for awhile while doing it), including talking/meeting/dancing with tons of girls at 2 clubs, and becoming very good friends (outside) with one former fave, here is what I think I've learned. Feel free to disagree/discuss.

    1) Some girls will tell you the absolute truth about who they are and their life (surprisingly, more than I would think). These are usually the new girls. Some girls will completely make stuff up. Some girls will just giggle and defer and try not to talk about "outside" stuff at all ("let's just have fun"). The common thread among all girls, though, is that every single one of them will tell you what they think will make them the most money, whether it's the truth (sometimes it is) or something else.

    2) Brand-new girls and those who have turned into dirty old whores who can't make money any other way give the dirtiest dances. Those in the middle give by-the-book a-b-c-d dances.

    3) A lot of girls are on drugs. A lot of girls hate the girls who are on drugs. This is a big division in all the clubs I have seen, and as true as the "stripper on drugs" stereotype is for some, there are just as many girls who HATE having drugs in their club.

    4) The dancers are WAAAAYYYYY more worried about who the director is, what kind of power he has, what he thinks about them, than I would have ever thought. For the customer, WHO CARES? He plays a much bigger role in your job than I thought.

    5) (related) -- to the casual customer, you walk in, the hot strippers look IN CHARGE. Some of them are. Most of them, they feel subservient to the director, their boyfriend, even the customer.....they really don't feel in charge at all.

    6) Privates vary more club-to-club than they do WITHIN a club.

    7) A surprising number of girls will eagerly go for the dick in a private.

    (reading deeper now) -- some of the girls love men. some love sex. some love being sexual in the club. some hate it, just do what they have to do. some hate men. some used to love men but hate them now and turn lesbian. some never liked men. very very few, no matter their orientation, get "turned on" by a guy in a club. It would have to be aligning of the stars of a hot guy and a girl open to being turned on. A far HIGHER percentage get "turned on" by their female dancer companions....what % of this is for show, I still haven't nailed down. In short, all the questions like "do you like sex, like men, like being naked, hate being naked," have as many answers as there are dancers. There is no stereotype on these questions whatsoever that fits.

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    who the fuck is the director?

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    ^^^ Ditto, and I've worked in St. Louis.

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    The director? Wha - ?


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    Director=boss.

    All the PT's girls use the term "director." Especially when referring to the "area director." Maybe it's just a PT's term.

    Whatever male asshole is in charge of your club.

    *Edit: but then again all the Hollywood girls (not PT's) refer to their boss as the director, too. So that's why I thought it was just a general term.

    Change it to "boss". 3 responses to the least important thing in my post, semantics.

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    In Vegas they call the floor guys/bouncers directors. As far as the "research results" umm...ok...whatever.

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    Yeah...so we pay attention to our boss.

    Right. So we don't get fired.

    Good observation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zxcire View Post
    Yeah...so we pay attention to our boss.

    Right. So we don't get fired.

    Good observation.
    Sigh. Oh yeah, some strippers are bitter.

    Some aren't, though.

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    Another brilliant one!

    You said it was open for discussion/disagreement. So I'm just doing my part.

    I'm the contrarian.

    ETA actually I think I'm just being a dick. That's unnecessary. I will go away now!!!!!!!

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    "some are bitter - some arent. some are in control - some arent. some do drugs - some dont. some are lesbian - some are straight" LOL

    Of course we will come across as bitter only cause we are not getting paid to participate in your experimentation like the ones you observed. And it was very lame observations. Go back to school and learn some more.

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    I think you can find bitter people in all occupations.


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    Summation: Strippers are women, with all the variation that occurs in the general female population.

    Glad you figured that one out.

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    No...... REALLY?!

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    While it is tempting (and easy) to pile-on the OP, he should at least get credit for reaching these conclusions by actually visiting and spending money in a strip club vs the bucketful of guys here who post their opinions on stripperdom without having been in a SC since GW's dady was in Washington.

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    Here's what I've learned in 20 odd years in clubs...many many clubs with many many dancers.

    Some of what you say I have found to be true. Some of it I would tend to disagree with (for example, I can get a blow job or an air dance in every club in Providence, it depends on the girl, not the venue). Most of what you think you know after a year will change if you keep going for another year...and again after another year...

    Most of what your "former fave" friend told you may be very true for her but you would get ten different stories from ten different former fave's.

    Be careful about stereotyping clubs, managers, dancers and the dynamic that exists between them. It's different in every club, in every region....not that it matters to you the customer anyway because...

    Basically everything you said, though it may be interesting chat board fodder, is irrelevant to a customer having a good time in a strip club.
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    What have I learned about dancers? Even in the lousiest of clubs, you only need one to make your evening a pleasant experience.


    Sadly that gal is becoming harder and harder to find, at least around here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tasteebars View Post
    "some are bitter - some arent. some are in control - some arent. some do drugs - some dont. some are lesbian - some are straight" LOL

    Of course we will come across as bitter only cause we are not getting paid to participate in your experimentation like the ones you observed. And it was very lame observations. Go back to school and learn some more.
    Not experimentation. I wasn't doing this as some sort of class project. Just having fun, and thought I had reached some conclusions I would post.

    I know the "some are, some aren't" language isn't exactly a "eureka!" revelation.....but it is to say, the bad stereotypes are true some of the time for some of the dancers, but a custy has to take the time (if he cares) to learn which is which. If YOU care, the bad stereotypes of customers (cheap, want as much mileage as they can get) are true some of the time for some of the custies, too...but not all, and not all the time. With some of the dancers, my only goal is mileage. With others, all we do is talk. Depends on the person.

    The one stereotype that is true all of the time for all dancers, though, whatever they're doing to you or saying to you -- it's an angle. That's not to say it's a lie -- even the truth can be an angle (if that's the angle she thinks will work for her).

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    ^ Setting aside that your "analysis" is woefully myopic and cute, in a naïve way one would expect from a neophyte of the business, psychoanalyzing SCs is a sure way to render the experience entirely unpleasant.

    Isn't that rather counterproductive to the goal of the experience?
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    1) Some girls will tell you the absolute truth about who they are and their life (surprisingly, more than I would think). These are usually the new girls. Some girls will completely make stuff up. Some girls will just giggle and defer and try not to talk about "outside" stuff at all ("let's just have fun"). The common thread among all girls, though, is that every single one of them will tell you what they think will make them the most money, whether it's the truth (sometimes it is) or something else.

    Not true. usually true, but not always. sometimes I'm tired or pissed off or cannot stand whoever I'm talking too and don't really care what I say

    2) Brand-new girls and those who have turned into dirty old whores who can't make money any other way give the dirtiest dances. Those in the middle give by-the-book a-b-c-d dances.

    Not true. Haven't you seen newbie dancers who don't know what the hell they're doing? They dance like a mile a way and are boring as hell. I think I'm dirtier now than when I started and I'm in the middle

    3) A lot of girls are on drugs. A lot of girls hate the girls who are on drugs. This is a big division in all the clubs I have seen, and as true as the "stripper on drugs" stereotype is for some, there are just as many girls who HATE having drugs in their club.

    Nope. I'm not on drugs but I don't care about it. I'll even partake once in a blue moon. I don't care what other girls are up to

    4) The dancers are WAAAAYYYYY more worried about who the director is, what kind of power he has, what he thinks about them, than I would have ever thought. For the customer, WHO CARES? He plays a much bigger role in your job than I thought.
    Again, no. I don't have any interaction with my "director" I don't care what he thinks of me. He doesn't pay my bills.

    5) (related) -- to the casual customer, you walk in, the hot strippers look IN CHARGE. Some of them are. Most of them, they feel subservient to the director, their boyfriend, even the customer.....they really don't feel in charge at all.

    I don't understand this one.

    6) Privates vary more club-to-club than they do WITHIN a club.

    Since I'm not a customer, I don't really know.

    7) A surprising number of girls will eagerly go for the dick in a private.

    Don't know.

    (reading deeper now) -- some of the girls love men. some love sex. some love being sexual in the club. some hate it, just do what they have to do. some hate men. some used to love men but hate them now and turn lesbian. some never liked men. very very few, no matter their orientation, get "turned on" by a guy in a club. It would have to be aligning of the stars of a hot guy and a girl open to being turned on. A far HIGHER percentage get "turned on" by their female dancer companions....what % of this is for show, I still haven't nailed down. In short, all the questions like "do you like sex, like men, like being naked, hate being naked," have as many answers as there are dancers. There is no stereotype on these questions whatsoever that fits.

    Ya, this is annoying. And just reread what Yekhefah wrote. Oh, and is it just me or does anyone else hate when guys say girls "turn lesbian" because of men?
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    This was a ballsy move for the pink side.

    Sorry nothx I don't much agree with it either.

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    Every man thinks they are a strip club expert.

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    Everyman, I'm interested in what clubs you made these observations at. You mentioned the Hollywood Showclub and PT's. Which PT's clubs? I know you think the "director" questions are a minor quibble but it interests me. I've mostly spent time at PT's Brooklyn, Roxy's, and Hollywood. I can only think of a couple times when the director/manager ever came up in dealings or conversations with dancers. The dancers I've spent time with haven't seem too concerned about them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jannisary View Post
    Everyman, I'm interested in what clubs you made these observations at. You mentioned the Hollywood Showclub and PT's. Which PT's clubs? I know you think the "director" questions are a minor quibble but it interests me. I've mostly spent time at PT's Brooklyn, Roxy's, and Hollywood. I can only think of a couple times when the director/manager ever came up in dealings or conversations with dancers. The dancers I've spent time with haven't seem too concerned about them.
    Primaries are PT's Centreville and Hollywood. Also spent time in Penthouse & PT's Sports. Everyone I've talked to in depth seems SOOOOOOOOOO concerned about what "the boss" will think. Which seems weird to me because "firing" is always a temporary thing, the girl is always back the next day (at another club), or the next week (at the same club after a cooling-off period).

    I completely recognize that my initial post reeks of "some girls are x, some aren't, some girls are y, some aren't" platitudes. I guess what I was really trying to do was say that I have found out that some of the stereotypes:

    - strippers won't give you their real names or real life stories
    - most strippers are on drugs
    - strippers are bitter and hate men
    - (opposite) strippers are nymphos who love men

    just aren't true, at least not a lot of the time.

    The only stereotype that I found always true, all of the time, is that everything a stripper does or says is designed to be profit-maximizing.

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    so you've basically concluded that we're not all the same? and that stereotypes aren't a good basis for judgment calls?

    not to be an ass, but did that take a lot of "figuring out"? because it shouldn't have.

    and to this

    2) Brand-new girls and those who have turned into dirty old whores who can't make money any other way give the dirtiest dances. Those in the middle give by-the-book a-b-c-d dances.
    i don't know, 75% of the new girls i see do very "scared" dances where they stand 2 feet away and wiggle. a lot of customers will tell you they avoid new girls for this reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doc-catfish View Post
    What have I learned about dancers? Even in the lousiest of clubs, you only need one to make your evening a pleasant experience.


    Sadly that gal is becoming harder and harder to find, at least around here.
    you know what's funny doc?

    you could insert the word "customers" for dancers (and guy for gal) and you'd have a paragraph i say frequently at work.

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