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    There is a bar in Edmonton that charges $30 a dance.... the club gets $16 the girl gets $14... and the songs are fairly long in the lap dance room.

    Now the kicker of this is... they require you to sell a minimum of 30 a week. This is a club that pays their girls per stage show(apx $55 a show some girls get more others get less) and you do 24(ish) shows a week.

    So if you don't sell your 30 dances they take whatever you havn't sold out of your pay cheque.

    So you walk into the club Mon morning owing $480. If you only sell say 10 dances that week you owe them $320.

    Am I the only one seeing this as being fucked up?

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    No. Any club where the club gets a decent cut off every dance is just plain f-ed up IMO. Back home here, there is a specific club where they force you to declare all "dance" tips. "Dance" tips are any and all tips not specifically received whilst you are on stage. Seriously! Now, the kicker is that they want you to declare these tips so then they can take half.

    No joking. Dancers have been fired for trying to stash their "dance" tips into their lockers. Guys tip the dancers at this club off the stage (like within a dance) thinking that the dancer is getting that tip... hell no!

    Plus for a 10 minute dance, full nude where the customer is allowed to touch you they charge $55. The dancer keeps $30. The club keeps $25. That's only $5 less than what the dancer who did the dance is receiving!

    Is this their way of being able to "afford" to pay for the stage shows? Because if it is, then that is really fucked.

    Then again, there was a club (it is no longer around "amazingly") in Rockhampton that charged girls $500 per week to work which you "paid off" over each night. They provided airfare and accommodation. The club was only open Wed-Sat. Yes, it was good money at first then the money dwindled... and that $500 seemed to be rather steep.

    It happens because we all let it happen because we all know there really is nothing we all can do to stop them from taking advantage like that as there are plenty of dancers who are more than willing to be taken advantage of ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Callyish View Post
    There is a bar in Edmonton that charges $30 a dance.... the club gets $16 the girl gets $14... and the songs are fairly long in the lap dance room.

    Now the kicker of this is... they require you to sell a minimum of 30 a week. This is a club that pays their girls per stage show(apx $55 a show some girls get more others get less) and you do 24(ish) shows a week.

    So if you don't sell your 30 dances they take whatever you havn't sold out of your pay cheque.

    So you walk into the club Mon morning owing $480. If you only sell say 10 dances that week you owe them $320.

    Am I the only one seeing this as being fucked up?
    You know what I think about it. Shit like that is the reason I'm not inerested in working in AB. Sure, you make good $$. But I can make as good money elsewhere, workng in bars that I feel have more ethical business practices.

    The alberta (and some of BC) SC busines skeeves me out. The HA put out a 'warning' to BC girls a few weeks ago, that anyone who works at a certain club in Van (which recently got taken over by a rival gang) can't work in AB. How fucked up is that- being a pawn in a gang war?? Jeebus.

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    Yes. Very fucked up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scarlett_vancouver View Post
    The HA put out a 'warning' to BC girls a few weeks ago, that anyone who works at a certain club in Van (which recently got taken over by a rival gang) can't work in AB. How fucked up is that- being a pawn in a gang war?? Jeebus.

    Hmmm is this what club I think it is? The girl who sold me the busted tub used to work there?

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    That's ridiculous-the only way I would work there is if I was making an obscene amount of money there (say $1000 a night or more) and I couldn't make that at any other club in the area. I hate it when clubs take that big of a cut from lap dances.






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    Quote Originally Posted by scarlett_vancouver View Post
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    Doesn't surprise me. That place has been going to shit for awhile now.



    Anyway yea I really don't agree with this. People wonder why I only work Calgary if I work Alberta... this is why. Even the other clubs require you to sell anywhere from 30 - 75 dances a week(I believe one club is 90 for the week) and they take anywhere from $11 - $16 out of your dance money... and all the bars charge $30 a dance.

    One of the bars even requires you to tip the VIP girl $2 a dance on top of the money you pay out.

    Ahaha fucking BS.

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    I think it is very fucked up as well. I mean, 30-75 dances a week isn't a crazy amount, but what if you only want to work a couple days? What if they happen to turn out to be bad days? Then you're fucked!

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    Excuse me? They take home more of your money than you do? Oh HELL no.

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    psh. That's ridiculous. I pay, at most, like $40/ night. The idea of someone taking a percentage of my earnings? Argh!! Why do they think they're so special that girls have to pay to work there? Assholes.

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    Wow, that's robbery. Of course, I pay at least $90 to work each night, so it all sucks.

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    I honestly always wished my clubs charged a fee based on a percentage. of course, a reasonable fee. no more then 20%, unless earning potential was super high, then like 30 would be ok.

    it'd keep them from overbooking, for one, and it'd keep them with a higher caliber of dancers. and if it was a shitty night at least you would only pay out a little bit.

    It'd be nice if they did it counting dances, b/c then the dances would be watched over as well, and any tips you made (on stage or from a dance) would be yours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lola Rose View Post
    I honestly always wished my clubs charged a fee based on a percentage. of course, a reasonable fee. no more then 20%, unless earning potential was super high, then like 30 would be ok.

    it'd keep them from overbooking, for one, and it'd keep them with a higher caliber of dancers. and if it was a shitty night at least you would only pay out a little bit.

    It'd be nice if they did it counting dances, b/c then the dances would be watched over as well, and any tips you made (on stage or from a dance) would be yours.
    That would be sane. I wouldn't mind a cut of dances if they got rid of the stupid house fee. Though this can lead to unscrupulous dance fee collectors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cutey5032 View Post
    I think it is very fucked up as well. I mean, 30-75 dances a week isn't a crazy amount, but what if you only want to work a couple days? What if they happen to turn out to be bad days? Then you're fucked!

    Guess I should specify something lol.


    Its a 6 day booking, you work Mon - Sat from noonish till 2am(ish). They book 7 girls a week for stage then there are about 5 or so girls doing VIPs. The stage dancers are required to work the floor as well though(obviously) to sell your 30 lap dances. I heard they're upping it to 35 too bleh...

    The major issue with this is, most stage girls despise lap dancing. Also there is the fact that in these bars most people are there for the shows and loonie games and don't buy dances. Its actually really hard to fill the 30 dance quota.

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    I'm glad you boycott. Oh, oh - you should totally send in your CV and ask about working there and then say "I'm sorry, you require what? Well... that's not really standard for the industry in Canada." Just so they have some idea that the practice is keeping some dancers away.

    Know what might effectively address this? Because I'm writing a paper on the very issue. Quick, quick - pm me the name of the club. Case study! Case study!

    That even makes it more interesting, actually. It implies that the reasoning is not simply financial, but to exert change on how you do your job; like the girls don't want to do lapdancing; the owners want more lapdancing (likely because they look to Eastern Canada clubs and see the money that they can make when you don't pay girls and instead girls pay you). The owners are implementing a demand for lapdancing to force the stripclub "market" in the direction that they want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lola Rose View Post
    I honestly always wished my clubs charged a fee based on a percentage. of course, a reasonable fee. no more then 20%, unless earning potential was super high, then like 30 would be ok.

    it'd keep them from overbooking, for one, and it'd keep them with a higher caliber of dancers. and if it was a shitty night at least you would only pay out a little bit.

    It'd be nice if they did it counting dances, b/c then the dances would be watched over as well, and any tips you made (on stage or from a dance) would be yours.
    Not from my personal experience here in Australia with clubs that charge a percentage.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenny View Post
    That even makes it more interesting, actually. It implies that the reasoning is not simply financial, but to exert change on how you do your job; like the girls don't want to do lapdancing; the owners want more lapdancing (likely because they look to Eastern Canada clubs and see the money that they can make when you don't pay girls and instead girls pay you). The owners are implementing a demand for lapdancing to force the stripclub "market" in the direction that they want.
    ^^^interesting observation.

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    I don't know. The club pays you $55 to go onstage. That's not typical unless you're a feature dancer. Its a tradeoff.

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    I wouldn't work there UNLESS it was a guaranteed $1k plus per night. And we all know the odds of that happening. haha

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    I think you should look at how much money you will make, not what the pay scale is. If you can get a shitload of dances there, maybe it is worth it?

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    I always think this is a sign of a bad club. A good club makes money off booze and cover charges and doesn't have to financially fuck the girls.
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    its not ã fair trade off actually. western canada every girl is paid for stage. you have to have nice costumes, do ã full 18min SHOW and you are in the club all day and night. you don't sell those 30 dances your fucked and they are hard to sell there. guys don't want dances at these clubs, they just want to see the shows. your also required to do one shower show ã week and one messy paint or whipped cream type show. itds not like your paid to wander around in ã bikini for 3 songs. you have to work for that pay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VegasPrincess View Post
    I always think this is a sign of a bad club. A good club makes money off booze and cover charges and doesn't have to financially fuck the girls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VegasPrincess View Post
    I always think this is a sign of a bad club. A good club makes money off booze and cover charges and doesn't have to financially fuck the girls.

    See the thing is it IS a busy club. Like super busy. Every night of the week its packed. Its just impossible to sell lap dances there. Everyone is there to drink and party and watch the shows. Our money is made playing the loonie game. Dances are just damn hard to sell.

    If you don't sell your 30 for the week they deduct what you owe off your pay cheque and they wont re-book you. Its retarded.

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