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    Default how to get CR's when your club already has heavy-contact LDs?

    I've always been a "hustle my ass off for nonstop lapdances" kind of dancer, but lately I'm thinking it would be a nice change of pace to be able to sell some VIP rooms! A guaranteed $100-$200 for a block of time where I don't have to hustle 10 guys to make that money...sounds good to me.

    The question is, what do you use as your VIP selling point when the LD's are already heavy two-way contact? I'm used to working in clubs where LDs are strictly one-way, two-way is allowed only in CR, and the upsell is "you can touch me in the CR."

    What's the "upsell" when they're already allowed to touch everything except the pussy for the price of an LD? (They're not supposed to touch boobs either, but 95% of girls allow it--and if you don't, guys look at you like you have ten heads and stop buying.)

    So I need new selling points for CR. Anyone else who works in a heavy-contact city/club, what do you use to sell CRs?

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    Default Re: how to get CR's when your club already has heavy-contact LDs?

    the girls at my club who sell a lot of VIPs allow touching or claim to allow it, and that's part of their vip sell. but i don't like the men touching me, and i don't use that. i just can't bring myself to lie and say "oh there's more touching" and then when i get back there claim that the bouncer/housemom/bartender is WATCHING and we have to be good....

    my lines on vip are:

    - "it's much more private back there...."
    - "it's a status thing" (for guys who look slicked out and drink name brand liquor)
    - "it's only if you really like me *flutter eyelashes, look coy*" (for "nice guys" who want to feel like they have a real connection with you...)

    and to the most oft repeated question EVER.."what do i get?"

    i respond: "just a nice comfy couch, and me naked, dancing all over you. how does that sound?" they cant deny it..it sounds good. even for $60 smackers. but if they press for extras i make it clear that they don't get to touch me. saying "but i can touch YOU all i want" and groping their leg for emphasis seems to help.

    amazingly enough, i often sell vip if i try...but i dont know about my lines. i think they are pretty lame. sorry i'm not more help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anelia View Post
    the girls at my club who sell a lot of VIPs allow touching or claim to allow it, and that's part of their vip sell. but i don't like the men touching me, and i don't use that. i just can't bring myself to lie and say "oh there's more touching" and then when i get back there claim that the bouncer/housemom/bartender is WATCHING and we have to be good....
    That's a little different. In my situation, they're already allowed to touch in LDs...so I'm having a hard time pushing VIP when they've already got all the contact they want for a $15 lapdance. So I have to find another angle to sell VIPs.

    "it's only if you really like me *flutter eyelashes, look coy*" (for "nice guys" who want to feel like they have a real connection with you...)
    and to the most oft repeated question EVER.."what do i get?"

    i respond: "just a nice comfy couch, and me naked, dancing all over you. how does that sound?"
    I really like these...I'll have to try them out!

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    Default Re: how to get CR's when your club already has heavy-contact LDs?

    After telling him you are having such a nice time with him say "Actually, i'd like to be alone with you. Do you know we have private rooms?" If he hems and haws... tell him you only ask certain people.

    Another angle... tell them "out here is for the kids. We should step it up a notch." (Naughty smile)

    Creatively not actually answering prying questions works with half. The other half you have to come out and say "Look, you're not gonna get a blowjob and you're not gonna get sex. But if you want to have fun like everyone else I've been to a room with tonight, then let's get on it!"
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    Default Re: how to get CR's when your club already has heavy-contact LDs?

    This is a good thread. I also have the same problem in my club and would also like some additional suggestions.

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    Default Re: how to get CR's when your club already has heavy-contact LDs?

    you must work in texas?? lol. find a new club if I were you. If there's no choice, stick to your guns. You wll build a solid fan base, with time

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    It's hard with my club as well. Our lap dances are in private rooms already, and contact is fairly high. No touching below, but most the time girls get their breasts fondled. So for me, we already have the private room and the touching..it can be difficult. Here's how I sell them:
    I make a point to show them it's cheaper if they like me to go CR. For 100 they get a half hour, but if you get in the lapdance room and decide you like it and stay for 3 songs (instead of one) you're paying 90. You might as well just get your moneys worth. Most guys respond well to this, they feel like they're getting a deal...which they are. I have many men (older b/c I work daytime) tell me I'm a fantastic business woman and that's why the buy dances from me...then they keep buying because my dances are the bomb!!! The other day this guy said he'd never spend that much time in the back...so we did song 1, loved it and he got another song. After that he said I was right..ended up buying a CR, and did one more song after.
    Also, I reserve better "sexier" more intimate moves for later dances. I just tell them it keeps getting better. Which doesn't mean they can touch me, just means that they can get a better dance
    If I get them to get a second dance I show them a new move, then I can usually get a CR.
    Best of luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paintgoddess View Post
    After telling him you are having such a nice time with him say "Actually, i'd like to be alone with you. Do you know we have private rooms?" If he hems and haws... tell him you only ask certain people.

    Another angle... tell them "out here is for the kids. We should step it up a notch." (Naughty smile)

    Creatively not actually answering prying questions works with half. The other half you have to come out and say "Look, you're not gonna get a blowjob and you're not gonna get sex. But if you want to have fun like everyone else I've been to a room with tonight, then let's get on it!"
    This is good advice. At my club I find it difficult to sell our "champagne-less champagne room." It is $375 an hour and out of that we get $250. But, that doesn't include champagne. I've only been in there one time and it was really because of the hustle of another dancer (Dottie Rebel is da bomb).

    I typically hustle $20 private dances all night and don't even pitch the CR. There's no reason I shouldn't mention it, I just don't. Maybe I need to go out of my comfort zone a bit and start asking. It sure would be nice to sell a couple of those a night instead of hustling 25 or so dances.

    Hell, I'm not proud. I'd allow a little boob touching if it got me money for sitting on my ass.

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    Default Re: how to get CR's when your club already has heavy-contact LDs?

    Thought I should add...

    Ask everyone you dance for if they want to go to a private room. Hustle everyone for it. You'll eventually find out what does work. You'll get a LOT of no's but you'll also sell some. The more you sell them, the more your confidence will go up, and the more you'll learn what closes them in your particular club.

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    Default Re: how to get CR's when your club already has heavy-contact LDs?

    at the end of the song, when you're asking for another dance, and he says yes, say

    "would you like to do it here, or would you rather go do it in our private rooms?"

    saying do it is key.

    a lot of guys will say no, but occassionally someone will say yes. And it takes no time wasted to ask. I keep dancing (doing my sexiest moves) as we discuss it, so either way I'll get paid for the song.

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    how much do you make off dances compared to the cr? something i used to do (and chrissy has mentioned this in her helpful things thread, too!) is offer them a "test drive." if they like the dance and want to move on to the cr, you can tell them you'll only charge them half, your cut you pay, or let them have the dance for free. either way, even if they dont go on to vip, you still got a dance out of them. i find that a lot of guys may be hesitant to spend that money when they dont know what theyre getting, so this is a way to help them, and also shows that you "arent" all about the money.

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    Default Re: how to get CR's when your club already has heavy-contact LDs?

    Hi! I want to start hustlin' but havnt actually gone in to audition, Do I need to know what CR's & LD's are??

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    One thing I also do when they're unsure, playing off the "alone with you" vibe, is commenting on everyone else getting dances too.

    "Wow, look at all the people back here having fun with us! I don't like working with an audience though, wouldn't you rather have me to yourself? Lets go get a room! Or would you rather watch the other fellows..."

    amazingly enough, it used to work a lot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by britt244 View Post
    how much do you make off dances compared to the cr? something i used to do (and chrissy has mentioned this in her helpful things thread, too!) is offer them a "test drive." if they like the dance and want to move on to the cr, you can tell them you'll only charge them half, your cut you pay, or let them have the dance for free. either way, even if they dont go on to vip, you still got a dance out of them. i find that a lot of guys may be hesitant to spend that money when they dont know what theyre getting, so this is a way to help them, and also shows that you "arent" all about the money.
    I totally do this if somebody is srt of thinking about going to the CR but isn't sure....it's worth it to give a free dance to get 400/hr room...and if they don't go yu can keep dancing for them on the floor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by needtodance View Post
    One thing I also do when they're unsure, playing off the "alone with you" vibe, is commenting on everyone else getting dances too.

    "Wow, look at all the people back here having fun with us! I don't like working with an audience though, wouldn't you rather have me to yourself? Lets go get a room! Or would you rather watch the other fellows..."

    amazingly enough, it used to work a lot.
    I used to do that as well! I would tell people I "give a better dance when I don't have all the other guys distracting me, and stealing the show you're paying for!

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    Default Re: how to get CR's when your club already has heavy-contact LDs?

    this works for me depending on the set up (like, it works for me well when once club I worked at was just one story. not as good with a two story):

    when they want a dance, just lead them to vip. period.

    they're more likely to say yes at that point than if you give them a choice,
    and if they say no, giggle, apologize and say something like "oh, I'm sorry, you had that twinkle in your eye that looked like you wanted a little more intimacy"
    and then proceed to sell them several dances downstairs.

    I use this less in my new club which has vip upstairs because I don't want to walk all the way upstairs several times and then walk down. But I might try it more and just lead them to the base of stairs, and ask them if they need to use the ATM first so we approach the money issue before climbing.

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