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    **sorry this is so long but its the letter im emailing lawyers, etc**

    I am a 28 year old white female, 5’4’’, 132 lbs., excellent health, and mother of two children. I have been an exotic dancer for nine years. This is my personal experience with Dr. Scott J. Loessin, Daytona Beach, FL.

    In June of 2004 Dr. Loessin preformed my first breast augmentation. I was a natural small B and went to a large C with saline, round, partially under the muscle implants. Cost $3900.00. I had problems with the left implant shortly afterwards. Initially there was a lot of bruising that traveled along the breast and down my side and arm. I was told this was normal. I made several appointments that were not regular follow up due to symptoms such as bleeding from the nipple and pain. I was told that these symptoms were not related to the implants and was referred to undergo a mammogram and sonogram to check for abnormalities such as cysts, etc. The bloody discharge was also cultured to test for infection. This was in late 2004. All results came back negative/ normal. At this time I was preoccupied with my separation and divorce matters and could not take the time to chase an answer for my symptoms. The bleeding stopped. The pain continued and worsened. The left implant eventually began to ‘move’ down and to the outside of my chest.

    I researched my symptoms via the internet and believed them to be from a ‘pocket' that was too large; allowing the implant to move out of position and cause pulling on surrounding tissue. In early 2007 I returned to Dr. Loessin regarding this pain, his work is ‘guaranteed’ for life. He agreed with my thoughts and explained that he could put permanent sutures along the outside of the pocket. He was concerned about the appearance after performing surgery on just one side. He explained that replacing both implants at the time of repair would be best. He asked if I had considered larger implants. I told him that I was interested in high profile implants to achieve the ‘fake’ look as opposed to the ‘natural’ look I had at that time. At that time I had 410cc left and 390cc right saline implants. We discussed 700cc implants that I brought photos of for and example. He also told me that I had “No other choice” but to go with silicone gel implants because I had some rippling along the bottom of the implants that you could feel (not see). He also suggested putting permanent sutures along the bottom of both pockets to raise the implants to correct placement of nipples being too high due to implant movement. He said he would use the same crease incision (under the breast) and the scar would not change. I agreed to have surgery in late July of 2007.

    At my pre-op visit, Dr. Loessin was concerned about using larger/ heavier implants with the permanent sutures. He said, “We would be working against ourselves”. He decided that only a 100cc increase per implant would be sufficient to achieve the look I wanted. I was later called by the office nurse, Michelle, who explained to me that the implant company did not make 510 and 490cc implants. The implants came in 50cc increments. I asked her what the doctor suggested. She told me that he instructed her to “Get what you can get”. This is why she was calling to ask what I wanted to do. After much discussion, we decided to go for 550cc and 500cc silicone gel implants, partially under the muscle. Procedure cost $5776.00. Two months out of work for recovery.
    His fee for repair was an additional $1500.00. I was not charged for the repair

    In late July of 2007 I received my second surgery. At my two week follow up I complained of continuing pain in the left side and a significant ‘dent’ on the bottom of the right implant. Dr. Loessin believed I was convinced the pain was from the problem before and there was nothing he could do to change my mind. I was offered a prescription for pain medication that I refused. Regarding the ‘dent’ he said there was absolutely no was to determine the final appearance only two weeks post surgery.

    I returned to him for my two month post op visit with the same complaints. He again said that the pain was due to the most recent surgery. He explained to me that no doctor would ever agree to perform surgery to treat pain, only to treat the problem causing pain and that there was no guarantee that the pain would be gone. He suggested possibly putting more permanent sutures along the outside left pocket to alleviate the pain. He explained that the ‘dent’ was caused by part of the permanent sutures being too tight and that it was a very simple fix that could be done at six months post op .He gave me a prescription for Alcolate, an asthma medication, to help with the pain. I expressed my dissatisfaction with the entire outcome of the surgery including that the overall appearance is barely half a cup size larger and very ‘natural’. At this point I gave up on him and decided to seek another doctor.

    Dr. Loessin told another patient of his, who is a close friend to me, that I am a patient for life and if I wasn’t happy I should see him again. I returned to him at about four months post op, armed with my before pictures that I had taken. He had to agree with me that there was little to no difference in size or appearance. He suggested performing the repair all over again. He also ‘changed his mind’ about the ‘dent’ on the right side explaining that my muscle was contracting the implant and the repair would be complicated and cause more damage. I expressed to him how detrimental the ‘dent’ was in my profession as an exotic dancer. He believed that I was better off with the ‘dent’ then the repair. He left the room, and sent the nurse in with a quote for nearly $1700.00 in ‘facility fees’ to repair his repair. I asked to speak with him again. I do not believe I should have to pay him for the facility fees or any fees, considering I had just paid those four months earlier. After waiting for nearly an hour I left the exam room and requested he or the office manager, Debbie, call me at home.

    I got a hold of Debbie about a week or so later after three phone calls to Dr. Loessin’s office. I explained to her that I did not feel I should have to pay anything for additional surgery because I was at no point satisfied. She was understanding and sympathetic. She suggested I find a different doctor. She said she would discuss my situation with Dr. Loessin and call me back. I was not contacted again.

    I have since moved out of state and found another doctor, Dr. Ralph Kozart. I am in constant pain. I have severe visible rippling on the left side. The left implant is visible lower than the right implant. My scars are twice as long as before and have moved above the crease line where they are now very obvious. Dr. Kozart’s opinion is that the permanent sutures have ‘unraveled’, the ‘dent’ is caused by capsular contracture (scar tissue) and that both implants have ‘bottomed out’ (fallen to unnatural, unattractive position). He suggests replacing the implants with 800cc silicone implants (for the appearance and size I want), fully sub muscular (to repair the enlarged pocket and ‘bottoming out’) and capsuloraphy (removal and repositioning of scar tissue) (to repair the ‘dent’). This procedure will cost $6800.00. Three to four months out of work for recovery.

    Dr. Loessin is planning to relocate his practice to Miami, FL. I know two other women who have had cosmetic procedures done by him. Both are unhappy. One had breast augmentation with unattractive results: poor placement and visible rippling. The other had a breast lift and tummy tuck with severe complications requiring months of hospitalization and leaving her severely scarred. I cannot believe that he can legally or morally continue to practice in this manner. I am aware that I signed consent forms stating risks of infection, scar tissue, unsatisfactory results, etc. but there must be some recourse or way to warn others. I would greatly appreciate any information or suggestions. Please do not hesitate to email me with any questions regarding my experience.

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    That's a really awful story and I'm really sorry for what you had to go through. I'm sure more qualified sw'ers will be here for you with more advice. I hate reading about evil male doctors knifing up women's bodies like nothing. (I know that ain't exactly it all the time, but that's how stuff like this can be summed up after all this time right?) I guess my only questions are, is the $3900 you paid in 2004 about the going rate for procedures like yours? And the 3 years bt surgery is a little alarming, in terms of your what your body decided to do on its own with acceptance/rejection/healing internally, but I really don't know anything.

    Good luck, I hope you are able to find a decent lawyer to help you through this.

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    I left out in the original post that after the first surgery I went to all of my scheduled post op appointment (aside from unscheduled concern appointments) including my one year post op. I also had two other appointments with him. I'd say I visited him aleast once a year if not more telling him that something was just not right. It wasnt until the beginning of '07that the problem was visible ( as opposed to saying "it hurts"). I was reassured over and over that everything was fine. I got alot of deflect and deny. for example id say, "i have to wear a bra all the time or it hurts really bad". The response would be, "So wear a bra all the time".

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    This sounds like a possible malpractice suit. I would contact a lawyer who specializes in medical malpractice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by teeth_of_the_hydra View Post
    This sounds like a possible malpractice suit. I would contact a lawyer who specializes in medical malpractice.
    Ditto.

    Wow hun so sorry.

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    Did the doctor speak to you at all about the fact that your body may have been rejecting the implants?

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    Body did not reject implants. Initial surgery was done improperly. Poor placement. Dr. didnt admit this, he kept asking if anything happened during my recovery. Nothing.
    This is alot of opinion. Dr Loessin uses crease (under boob) incisions because he says if you have to have surgery again, its through there regardless of original incision.
    Dr Kozart uses areiola (nipple) incisions because he says that if you have poor technic or a heavy hand with crease incisions you will damage the lower support poles (whatever those are) resulting in bottoming out.

    >>$4k is average for saline. Silicone more expensive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teeth_of_the_hydra View Post
    This sounds like a possible malpractice suit. I would contact a lawyer who specializes in medical malpractice.
    Yes, good idea. What a nightmare for you, but THANK YOU for sharing this information. Its very difficult to obtain accurate information about surgeons because they cover up malpractice suits. Also, they sponsor the forums and websites so they control the feed of information to consumers too. Please keep us posted.

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    I spoke to a few lawyers who specialize in plastic surgery malpractice and they basically say that there's no proof of negligence and I signed concent forms for knowledge of risk of infection, scarring, unsatisfactory results, etc. Therefore a lawsuit would be considered frivolous. I'm just walking away from the situation feeling that I could have set six grand on fire instead.
    I'm planning the revision surgery in June, thats the soonest I can take that amount of time off work.

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    Well how DO people go about suing? People malpractice and then ppl sue...the same ppl that signed the same form as you, right?

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    Do you know about this forum Gabrielle? There may be others who can help with the legal side of things.

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    That's a great forum. I read alot of the posts there. I couldn't find anything about legal matters. I'm afraid to post my story there since most of these women are against implants due to health problems and side effects and for extraction without replacement . I like fake boobies and am getting biggins next (what i wanted in 2nd surgery). They might freak out on me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alaska View Post
    Well how DO people go about suing? People malpractice and then ppl sue...the same ppl that signed the same form as you, right?
    Seriously. If youre willing to pay you can find an attorney and at least try. If youre trying to get one of those lawyers who get a percentage of the win than youre SOL. Those forms mean shit. There are ways to get around them.

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