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    Angry Sick of losing out to whores!!

    I know it's been covered, but I need to vent.. Business is tough right now! At our club, day shift, we sit around watching the door, waiting for some customers. When guys do make it in, I may dance for them, they like me, they're spending...yay.. then I get called to stage, or need to use the restroom..and they get to experience one of our many whores...the girls that will makeout with them, let them see and touch their pussy, girls who have no shame grabbing and rubbing cock, girls offering up their nipples to be sucked and pulled...you get the idea. Well after all that fun, why on earth would they spend any more $$ for me!? FUCK! I hate that we're licenced now. When the club was responsible for our actions, you bet your ass they wouldn't allow all the blatant extras. Now that it's on us girls, they don't give a shit.

    I met a guy from out of town Thurs., nice guy, we had a great time, asked if I'd be in Fri., well I was dancing for someone else when he showed up, whore took him off to a dark corner, undoubtably gave him a happy ending, guy left. Thank you, you cock grabbing WHOREs!! Please for the love of God...why don't they go escort and leave those of us not willing to do all that to make our money stripping!

    Thanks for reading. I feel a little better now. Bless SW!

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    I've been there too..it really makes me sad that these girls feel this is the only way they can work to make money.







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    This will get worse before it gets better. As local economies worsen, and as some dancers become more and more 'desparate' to maintain their previous earnings levels in order to keep paying their bills, the availability of 'extras' is going to increase. Once customers become aware that 'extras' are increasingly available from some dancers, their expectations will increase in regard to 'extras' being made available by all dancers. This is particularly the case if customers have also been hit with economic hard times, such that they're no longer willing to 'invest' lots of money finding out which dancers will provide 'extras' versus which ones won't. And thanks to the likes of and other more detailed websites, in general they no longer have to - because some previous club customer will have posted in regard to which particular dancer delivered what sort of 'extras' !

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    I hated that dark perv corner at your club when I worked there...

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    i'm sorry to say it, but this is just where the industry is going. most of the time customers are amazed when they AREN'T offered anything extra. more and more i get the look that says "well then, whats the point?" i know where you're coming from. it's frustrating when you feel like you're in a store trying to sell something no one sees the value in buying, and you're NOT selling what they do want to buy.

    it's getting to the point where i'm thinking "then why the fuck am i doing this anymore?".

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    Keep working the out of towners, they are your best bet for some clean money.

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    It's sad that the business is going this direction. Even the reputation of "dancers" in general is getting bad. It's pretty well-known that dancers used to earn a lot more money back before "extras" were part of the strip club experience, and that says a lot.

    I think the only thing to stop this would be what would hurt this business greatly in the short term--law enforcement to crack down on clubs. Ouch,
    I know. Hopefully laws wouldn't change, but prostitution laws would be enforced. That is the issue here, after all. And club owners (at least at the places I work) HAVE to be aware of what goes on. I mean, a group of Eastern Europeans are dropped off together at my club and they do everything..apparently they've worked for years there.

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    You know, I am blown away by the speed with which new girls become corrupted. It's like going 0 to 90 in 2.5 seconds. Usually by week 2, girls are letting guys get away with the nastiest shit. Sure.... long time dancers may be bending some of their own rules now a days, but the new chicks are certainly hitting the ground running.

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    I've seen that too Sophia. A real sweet newbie dancer who stopped to ask me some questions one night about what she was doing wrong (other dancers were laughing at her outfits and how she danced). About 2 weeks later she was really popular in the VIP room despite the fact she should not have been hired in the first place(sloppy body, not very cute). Come to find out she was doing extras.

    Usually I blow that stuff off as just talk, but at first she was always visible since she couldn't get any dances. Then she started disappearing, and I put 2 and 2 together. I guess she felt that was the only way she could make money. In that case- she was actually right.
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    you know what? i'm really tired of the "desperate" excuse. i understand what those who have said this before mean by it. it's just that, i've been pretty fucking broke, and i've never sucked dick for money. it's still a choice that girls make. it's like when guys tell me their gf stripped and the business "turned her into a whore".

    whatever.

    don't get me wrong. i'm not being preachy. i used to work full contact (minus touching the pussy and i did no extras) because i was desperate for money. it was still my choice though, and actually, it's the only thing i regret doing in my entire adult life.

    i'm just saying, the girls who go that direction really easily (no pun intended) were probably headed that way regardless. they have easily bendable morals OR it's nor morally wrong to them. either way, they do it because they've rationalized it, not because they "had to".

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    ^ I know, we posted at the same time.

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    In life everyone is different. An increasing number of guys want more than a dance. Business is slower, and the amount of dancers working in a market like Phoenix has not decreased along with the business.

    Some girls don't have a problem having sex with guys in the club or getting them off. It's a way for them to get paid, and many of these girls rationalize it by saying that the guys really want sex instead of dances, and that is where the money is. In the small markets where I work, in some clubs the problem isn't in girls performing sex acts in the club, it's in girls soliciting guys for OTC action after work. Of course those same guys won't buy dances.

    The real problem is in club management. If the owners won't enforce no sexual activity in the clubs, and warn or terminate girls who do it, in this day and age, there is not much we can do besides change clubs, increase our contact levels, or quit dancing.

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    i cant stand those type of girls who have to do extras. they perpetrate the stereotype that all dancers are whores

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tina View Post
    The real problem is in club management. If the owners won't enforce no sexual activity in the clubs, and warn or terminate girls who do it, in this day and age, there is not much we can do besides change clubs, increase our contact levels, or quit dancing.

    not -entirely-

    for instance:

    the club i work in is pretty clean. however, it's in tampa, which is known for extras and high contact. management at my club is FAIRLY good about firing hookers, but of course, with new girls coming in all the time, sometimes extras occur the first or second day they work before they're fired.

    my point is:

    it's still difficult to make money in a clean club in a "dirty city". most customers from out of town come here knowing "tampa means extras". so, they come into my club looking for them. tampa locals know my club is pretty clean, so they tend to avoid it if they're looking for more, but we still get some who haven't figured that out yet.

    it used to be a place where the guys looking for real entertainment came, but now it seems like there are less of those guys. and as i've mentioned, while the majority of our dancers are "extras free", about 75% of the new girls these days wind up being hookers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyssa Lynn View Post
    I know it's been covered, but I need to vent.. Business is tough right now! At our club, day shift, we sit around watching the door, waiting for some customers. When guys do make it in, I may dance for them, they like me, they're spending...yay.. then I get called to stage, or need to use the restroom..and they get to experience one of our many whores...the girls that will makeout with them, let them see and touch their pussy, girls who have no shame grabbing and rubbing cock, girls offering up their nipples to be sucked and pulled...you get the idea. Well after all that fun, why on earth would they spend any more $$ for me!? FUCK! I hate that we're licenced now. When the club was responsible for our actions, you bet your ass they wouldn't allow all the blatant extras. Now that it's on us girls, they don't give a shit.
    AAAAHHHH!!! No way.....I was just about to post a new thread about this same thing....and you already did it for me. Thanx!!!
    Feelin your pain, lady! I feel so frustrated when I take time to look good, smell good, keep my body toned, wear nice outfits, and just conduct myself with CLASS (a word and concept that seems non-existant anymore) in general...all to get turned down for girls with jacked up teeth and a beer gut or little baby strippers willing to do anything (and of course do extras). I got so frustrated with this last Wednesday night I checked out early and stormed out of work.
    One girl in particular has been pissing me (and everyone else) off lately big time. She pulls her skirt so far down that you can see her clit if you stand close enough (and especially if you are getting a dance) and when she bends over on stage her asshole is in plain view. Does management care?! No. Why?! Cause she *wow, shockingly* is one of the top earners and they make so much money off her. Her excuse is that she used to work in a nude club and likes to be "as close to naked as possible" BITCH....YOU WORK IN A TOPLESS CLUB NOW! If you want to show your cookie then go back to your nude club, and leave us alone so we can make a goddamn living being *just topless* And please nobody take offense to this, I in NO WAY have anything against dancing nude or anyone that does it. My point is, if you want to be nude, work in a nude club.
    Needless to say there is many more than her that conduct themselves in this manner, and it is making it really hard for anyone else besides about 10-15 girls at the club to make money. I have seen some girls come in, see that one or more of these girls working, then turn around and leave and not work. There is no excuse for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sophia_Starina View Post
    You know, I am blown away by the speed with which new girls become corrupted. It's like going 0 to 90 in 2.5 seconds. Usually by week 2, girls are letting guys get away with the nastiest shit. Sure.... long time dancers may be bending some of their own rules now a days, but the new chicks are certainly hitting the ground running.

    Zoom...
    Great point, and sooo very true! I used to get excited seeing a new, really cute, young girl coming on to work..thinking hey she'll be great for the club. Then in a blink of an eye... Sad, and very frustrating!

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    Maybe it's just my newbie optimism here, but I tend to think that the dirty girls will get their comeuppance sooner or later, for three reasons: 1)The guys that are looking for extras (at least in my area) are usually cheap bastards. 2)The guys that are actually going to be big spenders tend to look for a dancer with some class, rather than a trailer-trash whore. 3)They'll have to live with the consequences of their actions.

    Honestly, the big spenders that I see are usually the ones that are looking for a classy woman, which is why (if you read some of my other posts) you'll hear me fairly frequently talking about how you should ALWAYS be classy. They like me because I conduct myself as a LADY. It's all about fantasy in this business, and more mature, well-to-do guys do NOT often have the fantasy of a trailer-trash whore that'll let anybody finger her for $10 (in my clubs, the girls that do extras tend to discount their prices as well, even though it's forbidden by club rules). Their fantasy is of the classy, well-educated, beautiful, elegant woman who finds them wildly entertaining, laughs at all their jokes, and can carry on a good conversation with them. So I say, let the extras girls make their $10 off of some gang-banger thug who wants to lick their pussy. I'm going to be on the couch next to them, doing a string of 5 or 6 lapdances for the business traveller who's thrilled with my show.

    The third reason is also important: They have to live with the consequences of their actions. If you let every Tom, Dick, and Harry with $10 lick your pussy, then you may as well go ahead and get on the Herpes medication NOW. If you want to suck every dick that's attached to a $20 bill, then have fun with your HIV. And even more than that, they have to live with knowing that they whored themselves out for less than $20. And here's (IMO) the best part about all of this: They get to keep bitching about their pimp-ass drug-dealing boyfriends. Why? Because no GOOD man is going to be okay with his girlfriend/fiance/wife sucking cock for $20. So when I'm in the DR trading "I love you's" with my beloved fiance, you can go ahead and refresh your makeup after bawling your eyes out because your man just cussed you out and you know you're going to come in with bruises the next day.

    And it's not that I'm not sympathetic. I am. But you make your own bed. I'm going to make my bed with satin sheets and candles on the nightstand, and I'm going to wake up every morning beside my fiance with a smile on my face and his arms wrapped around me. If you make your bed with a flea-covered blanket in a roach-infested apartment and have to sleep alone because your man is out doing a dangerous drug deal and your kids have been taken by CPS six months ago, then baby, you'd better be ready to lie down in it.

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    What a great thread. I wish I could print it out and post it at work. The girls at the club I work at just get suspended. Then they come back and continue on until they get busted again. The other night, I went to the back with a guy and he said he knew about me and EXPECTED that he would have a great time. Wink wink. Now I want to know who he confused me with. I gave him a great time, but I doubt he will ask for me again, since he didn't get what he EXPECTED!

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    I wish we could somehow get every dancer to band together and... NOT DO EXTRAS! To raise the standards again so that the clean dancers could actually make some money too. Goddamn 'desperate' girls.

    What a fairy tale, eh?

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    Every time I read these threads, I become ever more thankful to live in my country. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, I'm not that naive... just that the line between strip club and brothel is clearly defined here (generally speaking).

    Working Ladies do not need to go into strip clubs "looking for business" as they can generate plenty thru other avenues.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie View Post
    This will get worse before it gets better. As local economies worsen, and as some dancers become more and more 'desparate' to maintain their previous earnings levels in order to keep paying their bills, the availability of 'extras' is going to increase. Once customers become aware that 'extras' are increasingly available from some dancers, their expectations will increase in regard to 'extras' being made available by all dancers. This is particularly the case if customers have also been hit with economic hard times, such that they're no longer willing to 'invest' lots of money finding out which dancers will provide 'extras' versus which ones won't. And thanks to the likes of and other more detailed websites, in general they no longer have to - because some previous club customer will have posted in regard to which particular dancer delivered what sort of 'extras' !
    Yep. I predict Phx clubs will be like those in Houston before long. Sounds like it's getting there already. I KNEW it would get bad after the licensing. Of course the clubs told all the girls it'd be better for us. LOL

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    Whats licensing?

    At my old club the girls that do extras at didn't really last long. Other girls run them out before they're able to stay making a living off it. I was happy that our club didn't tolerate things like that.

    Now at this place that I'm working at private dances have a whole nother meaning to it but I just keep telling myself that as long as I don't stoop down to that level at least I still have my dignity to walk away with & I can keep my head up.
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    I am SO in agreement with Morgan_TX!!!

    I work really hard to keep my mind focused on what I have to offer. Just as "confidence" is something of an unspoken energy, maintaining "class" and upholding the entertainment factor requires the same kind of presence. Those of us--seemingly those of us on this site--need to work even harder, doing what WE do, to keep this business from going in the toilet.
    I mean, the girls I see doing the stuff we're talking about on this thread don't seem the type that will look good OR feel good for very long. As for the customers who appreciate this type of stuff, well, that business has been open to them for a VERY long time so they can go there.

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    Moral victories are rarely profitable.

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    I am SO in agreement with Morgan_TX!!!

    I work really hard to keep my mind focused on what I have to offer. Just as "confidence" is something of an unspoken energy, maintaining "class" and upholding the entertainment factor requires the same kind of presence. Those of us--seemingly those of us on this site--need to work even harder, doing what WE do, to keep this business from going in the toilet.
    I mean, the girls I see doing the stuff we're talking about on this thread don't seem the type that will look good OR feel good for very long. As for the customers who appreciate this type of stuff, well, that business has been open to them for a VERY long time so they can go there.

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