No. We know so little of the universe(...and beyond...). I don't believe that the universe is a moral structure, I don't believe in karma.





No. We know so little of the universe(...and beyond...). I don't believe that the universe is a moral structure, I don't believe in karma.





I'm an athiest and I'll give brief reasons.
A God by definition must be omnipotent.
The universe we live in is vast - billion of galaxies, billions upon billions of starts, planets beyond number, and in all probability life elsewhere in the universe.
For a God to be omnipotent they must be aware of all that is happening throughout the universe at all times, and be able to affect any event that they wish.
The amount of information a God would have to store and process in real time to do that is unimaginable - and if you can't store and process the information, you can't be omnipotent.
Phil.
No.
I cannot believe in an omnipotent omniscient being without evidence - and that means real, scientific evidence - not an old storybook written and edited by men with an agenda.
And I believe the world would be a LOT better off without religion and the concept of "faith". Barring absence of religion, real separation of church and state would be a great start. We don't have it here in the US - don't fool yourselves thinking we do.
I am my own God. I believe in the power of humanity, and the power to control your own reality. Satan is a very good representation of all that is human, so I identify as a . We believe in Sin as being more positive than "virtue/abstinence", which goes against our natural human feelings and functions. I also like to take responsibility for my own actions.
As far as "God" existing in the Christian sense, I think that such a thing can exist in people's imaginations. I believe the Bible is a fictional story or collection of stories, and I think it's absolutely ridiculous to base your life on a book because other people have put it in your head that this is what you are "supposed" to do. "God" is a behavioral tool for people who can't think for themselves, IMO.
Yes, I believe in God. I don't believe in christians.




OOPs I forgot to add regarding my experience---suicide is never the answer to problems. There are many rewards for "hanging in there" and getting through the difficult times. So PLEASE do not commit suicide---bad idea.




P.S. I am very happy to see how people are expressing their beliefs on here in a peaceful way. The folks on here are making me proud.




In the past I would've been asking a lot of pointed, snarky, grumpy questions of the folk who disagree with me.
Now I'm content to just put my views out there and quietly read what others have to say. It's so much more entertaining and friendly that way.
Maybe I'm getting mellow in my later days.
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Just for my own curiosity: Has anyone gone from being an atheist to a believer?
Because there ain't no tits on the radio












^^ Yeah. Me too.





I haven't but I've gone from Catholic>Baptist> there is spiritual presence but its not a god.
I think a persons God is whatever they want it to be. Its all fine by me.
Yet, ever since I discovered a little thing called the big bang and evolution I have dismissed the Bible entirely.
you live like an ivy vine
you can only survive by clinging onto trees
that's your flaw
put down some roots so you can stand on your own
-Kenpachi
"I'm in ur heaven, punishin yah sinnaz."










Y'all stop trying to bogart my question!![]()
Because there ain't no tits on the radio




Lee Strobel is a journalist who claims to have been an atheist before converting to Christianity. He's written several books arguing for the existence of God, the historical basis of Christianity, and the tougher philosophical questions of faith.
To my view he's done a poor job of it, since the only sources or interviews he's done (in the one book of his I've read, "The Case For A Creator") are people from The Discovery Institute. I suspect his conversion involved a contract for a book deal. But others may be interested in what he has to say.
Sometime in the past few years, there was an older English atheist who supposedly had a deathbed conversion, but I can't remember the fellows' name and my google fu is failing me right now.
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Ugh. That's all you needed to say. Strobel claims he set out to write a book denouncing christ and wound up finding god, but upon reading the book Helen Keller could tell you that isn't exactly true. That was a witnessing book from day 1.
a skeptical review of it you may find interesting.




Madcap, did you read the rest of my post after the first two words?
I think you and I agree. I was just aiming for "more diplomatic" in how I phrased it.
I can't tell if you're agreeing with me or disagreeing.
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No, no, no, no, i read it. I was just commenting on Lee Strobel. Not commenting at you, just at his mention. When i run the board i modded for years, that bastard was the bane of my existance. How he was suuuch an atheist and found god after researching, as if i might do the same "if i'd just read some about Jeeeeesus" (despite my reading every goddamned thing i could get my hands on regarding religion and, well, not meeting any magic spooks in the sky due to reading what turned out to be the iron age version of the velveteen rabbit). I am trained, TRAINED I SAY, to bristle at the mention of Lee Strobel.
The last sentance was aimed at you because i thought you'd find the review interesting.




I'm agnostic. Mostly because I don't care enough to be an athiest.
I was raised with a jewish mother and a christian father, and learned a bit about both, and then explored Wicca on my own for a while. I believed as a child, and in 9th-11th grade, became a 'Jew for Jesus' for a while. Then I became an agnostic. It fits me best. My own personal experiences have made me think this way (not even the bad ones, just my day to day ones). Though even when I was at my most religious (like, bringing only a bible to read at sleep away camp, lol), I always believed in the Big Bang, evolution, etc.
I think the world really would be much better off without religion, or as was stated earlier, at a minimum, total separation of church and state




Ah, got it.
I think sometimes that I'm an atheist because I've read the Bible (three times at different times in my life), many many books on the historicity of the Bible, and apologists like Lee Strobel or, say, C. S. Lewis, or Michael Behe, or others too numerous to mention.
It isn't lack of research that led me to my God-denying ways, that's for sure.
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a link to the board i moderated for quite a while. I quit a few years ago. Thankless job that pays dick-and-nothing.
Now it's practically nothing but when i was modding it, it got 1000 posts a week (Not due to me, but due to the activity on MSN that was around then).
I believe in God, regularly attend church and am active in it. I have had personal experiences with God and had prayer answered many times, especially about finding things I have lost. I cannot prove this to you, but it is sufficient proof for me. Neither can you disprove my experience.
I think most contemporary Christians have a mistaken idea about sin and think it is nothing more than conservative sexual morality. I believe sin is our estrangement from God, and our consequent tendency to treat our fellow humans poorly.
Most of the other members of my church would think I am terribly sinful to go to strip clubs, but I have decided after long consideration that God never said not to look at beautiful women and that appreciating all the beautiful things that God created (women, kittens, sunsets, etc.) is a good thing to do.
Science and religion do not address the same questions, so they are completely compatible. Science answers when and what, religion answers Who and why.
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