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    Ive got this friend==or aquaintance== who when he fights with his wife,she'll take off and completely forget evverything that matters at home..sometimes for a day..sometimes 3-4 days...no phone calls,moneyy blown. he goes home and doesnt even apologize,just says the crack made him do it.he was SO mad and upset when he left that he just didnt think and used.says when ur on crack u dont think of anything. not sleep,not sex,not family..nothing but the next high.BUTwhen he does come back....everythings fine,for months even.he shows no signs of withdrawal...hates that he used....bla bla bla.
    my question isnt for hopes of solving their problems. Im just curious. Around here I see junkies on the streets hangin around cheap motels at 3-4am in the freezing cold even.I see people kill for drugs around here. I know crack is highly addictive.How is he not like these junkies out here who have nothing AT ALL.how does he go back and act like everythings ok? he hits the shower,eats,and goes on about the day. seems like he'd be addicted and wouldnt be able to go home and go to work the next day?? am i uneducated about the drug?
    ive been through this with my babys daddy,but it was different,so i dont know...maybe everybody is different?

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    Run, don't walk. And don't give this dude any money for any reason.

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    Some people don't use every day. They go on binges. Then, after a few days (or weeks) they run out, can't hook up, run out of money, or for whatever reason they can't keep using. They go home for a while. They may go for weeks or months without doing it. Then they get paid, get in a fight with their spouse, or get a craving and they're off to the races.

    Some people keep this up for years. They keep their jobs and families and function reasonably well. The binges may get closer together, until they are doing it every day. Not everyone does, and it doesn't make it less of a problem.

    Addicts can be violent and unpredictable. I'd stay away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madcap View Post
    Run, don't walk. And don't give this dude any money for any reason.
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    there are maintenance crack users, just like there are maintenance alcoholics and heroin users and meth users.

    some people hold it together to earn more money to have that binge so they can hold it together to earn more money to have that binge...

    but yeah, don't give money.

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    i dont think thats necessarily addiction. plus, crack is a funny drug. ive never done it, but with coke, when youre on it is when you feel addicted. and i dont believe that physically you can be addicted to cocaine. he might be an occasional drug user, not addict. or he could be an addict who only gives in to the craving every once in a while. either way, dont give him money.

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    Yes, DO NOT enable a guy like this with your hard earned money. And stop subjecting yourself to his emotional abuse.

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    Um he's an addict. He's an addict b/c he's unable to cope with certain stressing things in his life and his way of coping is using crack. I'm sorry but you can't occasionally use crack. Its a powerful drug. People can maintain their lives and use but they are never free from it until they break the addiction.

    His occasional use is not good for you or your babies. You're doing really well right now...really its been a hurricane for you and you are out of the storm. Don't get back in the way by keeping this acquaintance around.
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    ^ not true. addicts CAN occasionally use something, first of all. theyre still an addict, they just fight those cravings most of the time. and second, you dont "break" addictions to some things. you choose not to use, but the addiction is still there. this is very true in alcoholics, and especially in heroin addicts. i know people who have not used heroin in YEARS but they will still wake up craving it. it's not something you can really "break" so much as something you can work through and choose not to use when those cravings hit you. some things you just dont get "free" from.

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    There are functional addicts, they are just rare. My father went over twenty years as one - managed to have a decent career, raise a child who turned out pretty well (well hopefully), pay the rent, etc, all while dealing with lots of methadone and infrequent relapses to heroin. And most people around him, myself included, never even knew.

    That said, most of his heroin buddies were dead way before he was. And these 3-4 day binges... sounds like one day one of them is going to turn out bad. Real bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by britt244 View Post
    i dont think thats necessarily addiction. plus, crack is a funny drug. ive never done it, but with coke, when youre on it is when you feel addicted. and i dont believe that physically you can be addicted to cocaine.
    Why do you keep saying this when there is extensive medical evidence to the contrary? They even developed a vaccine for coke addiction. There is a very real physiological addition that true addicts can feel in their body when certain triggers ignite the addiction.

    http://www.emedicinehealth.com/cocai...article_em.htm

    Edit to Add: Don't confuse physical dependance with physical/physiological addiction

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    Just wanted to say...this is not a guy i hang around with.Just know him from my building and his wife tells me whats kinda going on when she's asking if Ive seen him.
    So i believe the addiction is always there...its the stress and refusal to cope with it that pushes the use of the drug.Its amazing to me the things it can make you do.Like this guy took off in the evening and didnt come back in time for her to go to work in the AM, didnt answer her phone calls,missed his kids birthday,missed work himself--somehow he never lost his job--,spent $600, all in 3 days. But when i see them,he's a family man,a hardworking man,paying rent and buyin food .How can a drug be sooo damn ugly but they love it so much??? She worries he even has sex for the drug. He says when a man is looking for the drug he'll steal or fight.A woman will screw for it. Truth?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xiomara View Post
    She worries he even has sex for the drug. He says when a man is looking for the drug he'll steal or fight.A woman will screw for it. Truth?
    Of course, fuck-holes are a valuable commodity, be it man or woman. I know that's a disguisting way to put it, but that's how the people giving them drugs for sex view them. Its a horror. See--"Requiem for a Dream"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katrine View Post
    Why do you keep saying this when there is extensive medical evidence to the contrary? They even developed a vaccine for coke addiction. There is a very real physiological addition that true addicts can feel in their body when certain triggers ignite the addiction.

    http://www.emedicinehealth.com/cocai...article_em.htm

    Edit to Add: Don't confuse physical dependance with physical/physiological addiction
    um, the reason i said that I do not believe it would be because i don't. i did a lot of coke, and not once did i feel addicted to it unless i was DOING it, and that was because i didnt want to come down. and i can't say the same for other things. also, during the drug classes i had to take for my dui, that is what was taught. that it isnt. because in order for something to be classified as addictive, you have to both build tolerance, and show withdrawal symptoms. which the article you posted even uses in its reasoning of why people think it isnt addictive. i argued with my teacher at the time that she said it, because i disagreed with her reasoning, but i did not disagree that it isn't addictive. and i'm basing that on my personal experience. so i can say that i personally do not believe it's physically addictive, and that's ok. because i do not. that's my opinion. i'm allowed to have my own opinion on the subject.

    also, the article you posted says psychologically addictive. which is a different story, and i said i dont believe its physically addictive.

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    Nah, she said 'physiological.' Not trying to interject anything, really, i made the same mistake when i read Kat's post for the first time.

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    ok. the ARTICLE says psychological. she was using the article to back up her point, correct? but the article isnt saying the same thing she is.

    "Cocaine has powerful psychological addictive properties." copied straight from the 2nd paragraph of the article.

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    Quote Originally Posted by britt244 View Post
    ok. the ARTICLE says psychological. she was using the article to back up her point, correct? but the article isnt saying the same thing she is.

    "Cocaine has powerful psychological addictive properties." copied straight from the 2nd paragraph of the article.
    Oh. I didn't read the article. Thought you were talking about her post. I'll put a sock in it, now.

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    ^ haha, dont worry! im just confused as to why that article is attached to kat's post, when it isn't making the point that she's getting at.

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    FUCK! I somehow erased my entire post.

    1. Your opinion does NOT refute scientific evidence of the physiologically addictive qualities of cocaine.

    2. Just because an article states that it is psychologically addictive does not negate that it is physiologically addictive.

    Your logic is flawed. Here is some Wiki to help

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug_addiction

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    i can still have any opinion i want. kthx. and i. do. not. believe. it. so really, i can make as many posts as i want about my OWN OPINION. "medical evidence" or not, i dont buy it. same as some girls on here don't believe in using meds to treat anxiety or depression. they believe that based on personal experience, same as i believe this.

    why do you care what i think? if you think i'm wrong, ok.. so whats your point, exactly? do you want me to say you're right, or what? i know my own personal experience with the drug, and i tend to believe what happens to me over an article i read.

    seriously? wikipedia? are you really using that as your source? i would think you'd come up with a better argument than a website that anyone can add to.

    and you are attacking me. as you seem to like to do lately. please, feel free to use the ignore function, as everyone likes to say. you have a problem with anything i say lately.

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    OK, no fighting on SW without Jell-O!

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    Quote Originally Posted by britt244 View Post
    i can still have any opinion i want. kthx. and i. do. not. believe. it. so really, i can make as many posts as i want about my OWN OPINION. "medical evidence" or not, i dont buy it. same as some girls on here don't believe in using meds to treat anxiety or depression. they believe that based on personal experience, same as i believe this.

    seriously? wikipedia? are you really using that as your source? i would think you'd come up with a better argument than a website that anyone can add to.

    and you are attacking me. as you seem to like to do lately. please, feel free to use the ignore function, as everyone likes to say. you have a problem with anything i say lately.

    Wiki has links to other sources at the bottom. Besides, I'm not here to get into a heated debate over some basic facts. There is no need for me to go to the library and find some medical journals to use as support.
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    Quote Originally Posted by britt244 View Post
    i can still have any opinion i want. kthx. and i. do. not. believe. it. so really, i can make as many posts as i want about my OWN OPINION. "medical evidence" or not, i dont buy it.
    Yes, medical evidence is a bunch of BS. If people still lived off their own opinion instead of evidence then the world would still be flat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TigersMilk View Post
    Yes, medical evidence is a bunch of BS. If people still lived off their own opinion instead of evidence then the world would still be flat.
    and things never change. never ever ever. so because something is said as a "fact" right now, it means that it is true. there's no false information out there and i should just blindly believe it all. god, thanks guys for helping me see it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by britt244 View Post
    and things never change. never ever ever. so because something is said as a "fact" right now, it means that it is true. there's no false information out there and i should just blindly believe it all. god, thanks guys for helping me see it.
    You're welcome. Any time you'd like to believe medical proven research..any time Brit.
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