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    Which clubs currently have the worst/highest house fees and payouts, and therefore should be avoided? Which clubs currently have low fees?

    I would like to start off by nominating Blush in Pittsburgh for worst(I just danced there for the 1st time last weekend). They have a staggered house fee that starts at $25 and goes up from there, than there is the standard DJ, housemom, and security tip outs, all of this I was fine with, then I learned about the dance payouts...this fucking club has the nerve to charge their dancers $10 per $25 all nude lap! They also have a $125 20min option, of which the dancer gets only $60! I about choked, I had researched this club via SCL, TUSCL, and the forums here, but I never heard a whisper of such a high dance payout. Also the girls only average about $10 per 6 song stage set(divided between 2 stages). Needless to say I won't be in a hurry to return there any time soon.
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    Meh.... NYC has much higher house fees than that. It's a toss up between Scores and Penthouse. I don't have specifics but I'll safely bet you'll be paying out $200 per night give or take. Room splits between dancer and house are probably similar to what you mention but a heck of a lot more $$$ exchanges hands.
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    theres a club here that you pay out i think $135 on weekends, and i dont knwo the deal with tipouts on top of that.

    my club i pay out $5 out of every $20 dance, and $10 out of every $30. that adds up to way, way more than a lot of house fees. though it doesnt SEEM like it, because you pay out when youre done dancing, and so i just have the mentality that i make $20 a dance, instead of thinking about what i pay.

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    I wouldn't avoid a club just because it had high house fees.

    I would avoid it if I wasn't making any money. That's my determining factor.

    Some clubs with the highest house fees are the ones with the best earning potential.

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    ^ yup. some places couldnt charge what they do if the girls werent making what they make.

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    ya, house fees should be in relation to earning potential.

    I'd rather pay 200$ and walk out with 800 then pay 50 and walk with 300

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    I would like to nominate Players (Surfers Paradise, QLD, Australia) for a club that takes more than it gives back.

    $55 lap dance: dancer keeps $30 is a great example. All tips received OFF the stage (aka "dance tips") are to be declared so the club can take half. Also, it isn't unheard of them "forfeiting" payment to the dancer of their dances as this happened to me once.

    After I finished a 10 minute extension on a lap dance I was told that they forfeited my measly $30 because I didn't come up to the booth to collect my payment when the dance was extended. You see, I would have preferred to keep the momentum of the LD going than spend 5 min or more of that 10 min getting dressed enough to go to the booth, collect my payment and going back to the LD. Sheesh.

    So I let some random person see me naked and feel my body for free. No thank you.

    Oh.. and they like to pay you at the end of the next shift you work which is bullshit IMO.

    So yeah, I vote Players. I'm not be slanderous, these things happen and happened. These are the facts.
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    ill be slanderous. players suck. their percentage is bullshit, and they treat girls like shit. when paul was there,things were great, i didnt mond the percentage, once he left they place went downhill, and the percentage became a problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldCoastGirl View Post

    Oh.. and they like to pay you at the end of the next shift you work which is bullshit IMO.
    WTF?! So, what if you want to quit? How do you get paid for the previous nights work?!

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    Wow. I wouldn't mind paying high fees if there's huge money potential but sounds like some of these clubs are downright robbing you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AudreyLeigh View Post
    WTF?! So, what if you want to quit? How do you get paid for the previous nights work?!
    I've worked for clubs like this. You quit and pick it up the next day/night and then just leave.


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    ^^^ Lysondra is correct. You pick it up the same night or next night.. I emptied out my locker the night before the day I told them I quit. Then came in and picked up my pay that night.

    Also, if you were going to be away for a decent period (a week or so)... they also wouldn't pay you your full pay that you earnt that night at the end of the night.. only half.. and you supposedly picked up the other half when you returned (this is what made me quit in the end). It wasn't surprising at how much money went 'missing' due to it.

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    what city and state is players located? Or is it a chain?

    Also I would like to nominate Showgirl III in Ft. Wayne, IN for worst. On top of their house fee and tip outs for the DJ, bar and security they charge $5 per $20 dance you do. Learning that the club you will be working has a dance payout is already a dissapointment to any hustler. But even worse was the fact that the average tips per stage set was $0. To compensate I guess, the dancers at this club had started doing "mini dances" on the floor for $1! I think they have charged $10 or $5 at some point, but eventually whatever downselling happened, the going rate is $1. Now, if you were a male custy, what would you rather do, get $20 in 1's and have 20 different babes come stuff their boobs in your face all without every getting your ass off your seat(and feeling like some kind of "big tipper" for slipping the girl an extra $1), Or pay 1 dancer $20 for 1 song, while potentially losing your seat?......

    ladies at this club need to get a grip! A few custys I approached about a lapdance even asked me for a $1 dance preveiw! I just couldn't bring myself to dance inside a custy's bubble on the floor for $1 with the rest of the club watching, um, isn't that what the stage is for??
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    Quote Originally Posted by AznExtasy View Post
    Wow. I wouldn't mind paying high fees if there's huge money potential but sounds like some of these clubs are downright robbing you!
    not mine.. i make more than ive made anywhere else CONSISTANTLY. i mightve had my highest ever days at a diff place but im consistantly doing well here. so i'd rather pay out as much as i do and make more overall than pay out less and also make less.

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    I worked at a little place called Stars, in Neenah..It was rough!
    There was no hustling allowed! Not for drinks, not for dances, not for anything! The girls weren't allowed to smoke on the floor because, according to the owner, it "wasn't ladylike"..We had to smoke in the dressing room! Yet the custies could smoke out on the floor!
    The house fee was $25 if you were on time or early, and $50 if you were late. Of course, you had the option to pay it with your first few private dances, which were no contact*I have no problem with that!*.
    Then, there's the requisite tip-outs to the security and DJ. I had no problem with that, either, except for when the DJ plays the music that's the polar opposite of what I dance to!
    This was, and still is, all hard to wrap my head around, seeing as how I never had a problem with the owner when I worked for him before.. Makes me wonder who pulled some of this stuff outta their ass..
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    ^ that doesnt sound like a high house fee or tip out at all.. that sounds like you were unhappy with the no smoking rule (which i love) and the no hustling rule.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oksana23 View Post
    what city and state is players located? Or is it a chain?
    I already stated all that in the original post.

    www.playersshowgirls.com.au


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    My regular club is pretty annoying. 90 bucks on a weekend night, plus 20 minimum to the DJ. No security or house Mom, but there is also no cap on how many girls they hire. It's a small club (they MIGHT be able to fit 100 people - maybe not legally) and they usually have 20 girls on a weekend night. The men are all harassed constantly for dances and the earning potential is minimal.

    I just don't work there on the weekend anymore. It's not THAT bad but it's still annoying.

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    my club has two payout options that each dancer gets to choose from.

    option one:
    dancer agrees to do a minimum of 9 $20 dances per night...or 3 $60 dances or a combo of 20/40/60. in all, the first $180 you make from dances goes to the club...EVERY other dance is ALL YOURS!!! the club doesnt take any money out or your remaining dances. this can be good on busy days, but HORRIBLE on slow days. because for the past week or so, some girls have been getting 5 or less dances...some have gotten more, but rarely...so you are SUPPOSED to turn all of that to the club, but most of the time our managers cut you a break and only take a portion....so if you are a girl that overcharges your dances(most custies dont know because im in SF and we get a lot of out of towners) and you charge 100 for nude....you do two dances and already made your payout plus 20. the rest of the money from the night is yours!! yay

    option two:
    dancer gets a flat hourly rate of $22.50 per hour. all stage and dance money goes to the club and you just wait until the end of the pay period to get your check. and for someone who works 6 days a week like me, this would be a DEFINATE 4 grand a month (because i always show up on time and rarely leave early). the thing is, there is no possible way for the club to calculate your tips....they can kinda estimate what you get on stage, but a lot of girls overchage their dance prices AND get tips on each dance....so they would just pocket the rest of the money. for example...our dances are 20/40/60. but some girls do 100 nude dances. lets just say the custy tips her 5....if she does the nude dance in a $40 room (we do our dances in different rooms depending on bikini/topless/nude), the dancer would pocket 65$ for a nude dance that the club can't calculate...and the dance was only supposed to be $60 in the first place!!!! WTF????


    i personally don't overchage my dances, but after re-reading what i just wrote, i could be making SOOOO much more. and usually when they overchage, they give a better dance...more enthusiasm, more contact...not just air. so its not really a scam. its just saying, the more you pay, the more you get...i guess.

    we don't have a minimum tip out for dj/doormen...we dont have a housemom and we dont tip management

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    I worked in a SHITTY club in NYC... House fee is $120, DJ min $20, House mom/dad min $17.

    The one I night I worked there (my first night dancing EVER) I made the most out of anyone there with a whopping $300 after payout. There were at least 5 girls that didn't even make enough to cover their fees... and this was not for lack of trying.

    Edit- CR was $470 and the dancers got $150.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lola Rose View Post
    ya, house fees should be in relation to earning potential.

    I'd rather pay 200$ and walk out with 800 then pay 50 and walk with 300
    Bingo!


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    Quote Originally Posted by vonniestarrr View Post
    my club has two payout options that each dancer gets to choose from.

    option one:
    dancer agrees to do a minimum of 9 $20 dances per night...or 3 $60 dances or a combo of 20/40/60. in all, the first $180 you make from dances goes to the club...EVERY other dance is ALL YOURS!!! the club doesnt take any money out or your remaining dances. this can be good on busy days, but HORRIBLE on slow days. because for the past week or so, some girls have been getting 5 or less dances...some have gotten more, but [snip!]

    i personally don't overchage my dances, but after re-reading what i just wrote, i could be making SOOOO much more. and usually when they overchage, they give a better dance...more enthusiasm, more contact...not just air. so its not really a scam. its just saying, the more you pay, the more you get...i guess.

    we don't have a minimum tip out for dj/doormen...we dont have a housemom and we dont tip management
    What club is this?

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    Wow, they have a stage fee of $180 to work at LD's now? It's changed alot to say the least. We never had stage fee's when I was there. I wonder how much the bigger clubs I used to work at are affected by inflated stage fees now. (Hustler/Broadway Showgirls/Centerfolds) Have you heard anything about the stage fees at these clubs Miss Vonnie?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oksana23 View Post
    I would like to start off by nominating Blush in Pittsburgh for worst
    All the good clubs in Pittsburgh have big stage fees and take half your dance money and more than half your champagne room money.



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