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    So two not wonderful things happened last night:

    1) I got to my favourite club, and started working. Talking to one guy, he says "is something burning?". I smelled it too, but assumed it was the kitchen from the pub upstairs. We went to the dance room. While waiting for the next song, I noticed the lights were turned on in the main area. Sure enough, we got the call to evacuate the building. The girls were allowed to grab our stuff first, put clothes on, etc (it's -20C outside). At this point the room LOOKED smokey. We dancers are so comforted by the fact that the building evidently does not have working smoke detectors. Thanks, management!! Outside there are literally four large fire trucks and whatnot. So I take my car and bounce to the second favourite club....

    2) Things are going okay here, and I'm lucky to run into some army guys who know me from before. They are cool and the two of them tell me they only get dances from me. As I am dancing for one of them, a manager guy walks by (one I'm not as familiar with), and snaps "Excuse me?!". I look at him, ask what I'm doing wrong (the rules here are strict and weird--- no grinding, no butt-on-guy's lap, no contact with his head/ face, but we can sit on the knee, do front-ways bodyslides, and the guys are are allowed to touch everywhere but the crotch).

    Guy says "G-string must come off!!". I say "uhm, I know, but I was just waiting to tease it out, wait until the second song...". The manager says "No, g-string has to come off FIRST SONG". WTF?! The guy I'm dancing for gets really pissed off about the interruption, and the insanity of the request. It totally killed the mood. He told me he PREFERRED me to keep the g-string on, which I knew he did because he loved the contrast of the white thong in the black light against my skin. I took it off anyway though, because I didn't want to get kicked out before I'd made much money. Anyway, the whole thing totally killed the mood, and he didn't get any more songs after that second one. Fuck. These are good customers.

    So afterward, I track down the manager. I say "Uhm, what you were saying about the g-string? Can you clarify?" Him "G-string has to come off right away...mumble mumble...I mean, it's $20!"

    What the Hell?! How fucking insulting! Grabbing my ass and tits is not worth twenty dollars if I'm not flashing vag right up in his nose too?! Jesus Christ. I was PISSED at that remark. That is ridiculous.

    In response to his logic that the customer might be getting screwed by my wayward insistence of stripping slowly, I say "Well, the customer actually preferred me to keep it on, so..."

    He snaps "Well, yeah, I've heard that before." Then he turns away and marches off dismissively.

    I had to go upstairs at that point for our mandatory free table dance. I love a club that takes us away from customers for three songs in the middle of the night so that we can offer non-spending jack asses a free nude dance on the floor...and THEN tells us not to rip-off these dearly paying jackasses by screwing them out of INSTANT nudity in the danceroom. That does not even make SENSE. I was pissed...I still am. It's just...it doesn't make sense! I've been dancing for going on three years, and I know what works. Whipping off every article of clothing the second our song starts is just not seductive. The customers DO NOT like that, generally speaking. Especially not the customers who tend to be GOOD customers. And then to imply that my dances are totally shit and unworthy if I'm not offering a gyno-show? Like, fuck off. Argh.

    Before my stage the nicer manager walks by, so I ask him about this rule. Again, this guy is nice. But he says the same thing..."Yeah, it's gotta..come off...first...song". I ask "what if the customer prefers it to stay on?" He says something along the lines of that would be okay if I cleared it with him first, but that wouldn't work because then everyone would do that...I gave up. These guys clearly have no idea what customers actually want...I mean, many customers really DO ask me to keep it on. It's a bit classier. Goddammit.

    Does anyone understand their logic? What am I missing here? I won't lie, I was insulted. I hope my other club has not burned down, because it's way better.

    ETA-- To clarify, I have no problem dancing nude. I DO dance nude. I just tend to take my time during the first two songs in order to attempt what I consider strip-teasing...slowly getting naked to make it interesting. If the customer makes it clear he wants me naked right away, I do oblige. But otherwise I do it my way, and I have not gotten complaints until now.

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    what a jerk! I have always worked in topless clubs, and have actually had customers who are all about the LD tell me that they only reason they typically don't patronize full nude clubs is due to what they perceive to be a health issue. Two guys have even said they went with their buddies and asked the girl to leave it on, as your guy did.
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    Yeah thats complete BS. My out of town club has full nude lapdances and several girls there NEVER take their bottoms off...either during dances OR on stage. And the club would NEVER tell them they HAVE to. It's up to them. (theres no choice in that town..all 3 clubs are nude, so if you only want to dance topless you cant just go to another club).

    I've kept my thong on many times when I wasnt getting tipped enough on stage, or was getting tipped SO much I didnt have time to take it off. I've kept it on in the back when I thought the custie might be a problem or I was on stage next song and wouldnt have time to put it back on(and also..if I was on stage next the guy couldnt get another anyway)...or if I just didnt freakin' feel like taking it off.

    On stage...MAYBE they can say something. I MIGHT accept that...grudgingly...feeling that guys came in to see full nude and might leave if nobody gets that way.

    In private dances? HELL NO. Thats MY choice. Want genitals right in custies faces? Feel free to whip your out and offer it up. Dont offer mine thank you very much.

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    Strip club management, defying all logic yet again. AMAZING.

    I've worked primarily at nude clubs, and for regular old lap dances I RARELY took off the g-string at all. I would if the guy was buying a big string of dances - but that was just as much because I was running out of things to do as it was a reward for spending, heh. I generally wanted to save some things for Champagne Room!

    I feel you, Molly. The contact rules alone boggle my mind. What a back-asswards place.
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    He can't tell you how to do your job. All he needs to do is make sure you're safe, you pay him his fee and leave you the hell alone. It's none of his business if you have your undies on, as long as the customer isn't complaining to him.

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    Oh, good lord. Some of the inane shit managers will say. Like telling girls to shave their pubes a certain way, you know? bleh.

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    He had no reason to be such a dingleberry about it.

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    I would be completely freaked out if a manager walked by and started telling me how to lapdance.
    "And now... just slide down there... that's right... now just let him touch you a little bit... not too much... not too much on the first song... now smile... that's right... show him that you're having a good time... you're having such a good time...
    Now ride him! Ride him like a cowgirl!"

    I would say that they probably put in the policy because there were complaints; like multiple situations in which guys have asked girls to take it off first song and they've refused until they buy more, etc., etc. It's still weird to actually interrupt a contented customers. I mean... why?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTempest View Post
    He can't tell you how to do your job. All he needs to do is make sure you're safe, you pay him his fee and leave you the hell alone. It's none of his business if you have your undies on, as long as the customer isn't complaining to him.
    umm.. yes he can tell you how to do your job. thats why he's the manager. and honestly, i think if i were a customer paying for a full nude dance, and someone told me they were going to go full nude only if i bought mroe than 1, i'd be pretty annoyed.

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    I had a manager pull me off the pole as I was sliding down it, upside down, and slowly removing my bikini top. There was a group around the stage ooohing, aaahing, clapping, w money in hand ready to tip.

    So I stop before the move is complete, go up to him slowly and seductively (I think he's going to tip me because almost no one in Houston tries onstage). Instead, he barks "gotta take your top off right away on all stages". WTF, it killed the show, and the customers walked away from the stage at that point. Funny thing, my boobs were exposed and my top was barely on. I was so pissed I grabbed my stuff and left the club for the night.

    So yeah, stupid fucking management. You have a much cooler head about it than I ever did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by britt244 View Post
    umm.. yes he can tell you how to do your job. thats why he's the manager. and honestly, i think if i were a customer paying for a full nude dance, and someone told me they were going to go full nude only if i bought mroe than 1, i'd be pretty annoyed.

    1) just because they are management doesnt mean they can dictate every second of your night. There is a line which this guy seriously crossed. If one of my managers even TRIED to tell me what to do in a private room(outside of doing things that are against the laws or somethign of course) I'd go to the owner IMMEDIATELY and complain. because

    2)not every customer wants the same thing. I've made the most money off guys that just wanted to spend time with ME...not because they wanted to stare at crotch. I've had plenty of custies over the years take me in the back and tell me "dont worry about getting naked or dancing...just sit here and talk to me"...some guys, while liking the LOOK of naked girls, not particularly care or WANT a stranger rubbing their naked genitalia on them.

    SO unless you are ok with Jenny's scenario above...you'd agree that the rights managers have do have a cieling that shouldnt be broken. It would be like a custie trying to tip you after dancing for him and a bouncer gave it back to him because you didnt do enough to "earn" it. Fuck a whole bunch of THAT!!

    Dont EVER yell at me because I'm not doing ENOUGH to give a custie his "moneys worth" ...esp if said custie isnt complaining. You have no idea what he wants. And obviously in the OP's example the custie was perfectly happy with the way she was doing things and the bouncer actually PREVENTED him from spending more $$.

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    ^ oh oh in this situation i think its ridiculous!! i think the way he went about it was totally wrong and i dont think she did anything wrong at all with the customer! i guess i shouldve elaborated. in general, yeah, i dont think its cool to not get nude if dances are supposed to be nude. in the case of a customer requesting that, thats different. and obviously the manager shouldve handled it differently, if he wanted to talk to her about it he shouldve done so in private and afterwards. im just saying that yes, your manager can tell you how to do your job. there's a time and a place (along with a respectful WAY) to do so, but yes they can do it.

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    ^^yeah I can see maybe asking you later why you didnt get nude or something. If those are the rules and the norm of the club....

    Just not that you HAVE to get nude...thats a stupid rule since,even in a nude club, not every guy wants that!

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    I work at a nude club, nude during dances, not on stage. We have to get topless pretty quickly on stage, since the guys are paid to see T lol. Managers are pretty lax about it though. We have to get nude in the back, since it's guaranteed, the place being advertised as nude and all that. We'd be falsly advertising if we didn't. However if a customer wanted something or everything to stay on during dances, we'd be allowed to keep it on. But that very seldom happens lol.

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    When I got your PM I took burning to mean "sucking." I had no idea there literally was a fire!!

    I can't believe your experience with management at my main club. I have never ever heard of that!!! Sure, I almost always take my g-string off about halfway through the first song but I have had guys on many occassions request to keep my g-string on the entire time just because they like it. Last time I danced there I even had a guy request I keep my entired modest-for-a-strip-club outfit on because he just wanted me to sit and talk with him.

    Is G the nice one in the story? Gawd, that got me pissed. I really hope I don't have to deal with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mollyzmoon View Post
    He says something along the lines of that would be okay if I cleared it with him first, but that wouldn't work because then everyone would do that...I gave up.
    Cause we are all watching each other during private dances and timing when the g-string comes off???

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    Hey girls, I have no problem naming names. Even if we speak in code, I think anyone who would want to know would figure it out. So Barbarella's was a-smoking, and Nuden was the one with the pissy managers. I just think these new rules have them in bunches...they're super paranoid, and want everything to look kosher. They were going on and on about undercovers coming in this week, saying that anything resembling grinding would result in fines for EVERYONE. Maybe the nude thing is part of it...somehow.

    For everyone else, what really bothered me is that this is new rule, or at least one that was never mentioned or enforced before. I've been at that place off and on since last March, and this is the first I've heard of it. We don't have topless clubs here, it's all nude, being free-wheeling Canada. It's always been the case, far as I told, that what happens in the dance room is up to us, so long as we don't go over the maximum contact. I mean, if you're going to suddenly make up rules, maybe telling me dickishly, while I'm in the middle of a dance-- not the best way? Oh well. I was just pissed at the time. It's not like I expect nuance and respect from strip club staff.

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    Although my club is lax about everything I went for an amateur night somewhere else. I had to share the stage with 3 other girls but luckily I found a group who was tipping me real well so I stuck over there for a bit. I had pulled my top aside but the "leader" of the group went on about how I didn't need to get naked for him so I left on my g - string and left my top like that and cashed in while the other girls worked the other end. All of a sudden the DJ was behind the custies motioning me to remove my clothes and looking pissed off. Afterwards he told me I should have heard his 5 minute warning (we did 10 min sets) and taken stuff off.

    Meanwhile I'm holding a wad of cash while the two other girls who got nude had a few bucks.

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