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    Default Okay, WHY do people assume strippers have been sexually abused?

    b/c i have not been and neither has my other dancer friend...why do people assume this?

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    yeah i worded it wrong the first time guys chill! lol. i just wanted to know why people always say this b/c in my case as well as a couple other good dancer friends of mine, have not been, ever.. i know girls that have had like perfect parents and really nothing really traumatic happen in their lives they just LIKE dancing and LIKE the money, but people just dont understand they think it's just nuts they would work in "the sex industry" w/o some major issues lol. sorry to offend
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    Default Re: Strippers have been molested/sexually abused..?

    Quote Originally Posted by SweetPetite View Post
    ...otherwise they would never work in the sex industry..." thats what i have heard
    Golly. That's as about fascinating as it is original, and ALMOST as accurate!

    Which is to say, none of the above. But thanks for sharing.
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    Default Re: Okay, WHY do people assume strippers have been sexually abused?

    ^^What?

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    Default Re: Okay, WHY do people assume strippers have been sexually abused?

    Good question. *sigh* She changed the thread title (which was originally "All strippers have been sexually abused/molested . . ." AND edited her original post, so now mine makes zero sense. I should just delete it.
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    Default Re: Okay, WHY do people assume strippers have been sexually abused?

    LOL....


    Another BG 'wtf?' moment....

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    Welcome to Stripperweb. You're off to a good start.
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    Default Re: Okay, WHY do people assume strippers have been sexually abused?

    Wait... you haven't?

    When I'm done sucking my brother's dick I'm gonna have to have to talk with you, 'cause I am only strippin to pay for my daddy's penis enlargement and my husband's hospital bills from breaking his fist on my face.


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    Default Re: Okay, WHY do people assume strippers have been sexually abused?

    yeah i worded it wrong the first time guys chill! lol. i just wanted to know why people always say this b/c in my case as well as a couple other good dancer friends of mine, have not been, ever.. i know girls that have had like perfect parents and really nothing really traumatic happen in their lives they just LIKE dancing and LIKE the money, but people just dont understand they think it's just nuts they would work in "the sex industry" w/o some major issues lol. sorry to offend

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    Default Re: Okay, WHY do people assume strippers have been sexually abused?

    Why do they say it?
    Because perfectly sane people not effected by sexual abuse simply couldn't do this job. That would be absurd. How dare they work outside the stripper stereotype. That would question all other stereotypes around too.

    Furthermore I can say that people that have been effected by sexual abuse CAN do this job and are perfectly able to withstand all of of its ups and downs.
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    Default Re: Okay, WHY do people assume strippers have been sexually abused?

    Why?Because they have seen one too many movies.

    Plus they need a reason why THEY arent doing it. They arent prudes, or ugly, or fat, or self concious..NOOO..WE were abused. THATS the differance.

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    Any sexually aggressive woman (indeed, any woman who is not ashamed of her own sexuality) is assumed to be sexually damaged in some way. I got dragged to one shrink after another when I was a teenager because I liked reading and writing about sex - I wasn't even HAVING sex, but a trillion shrinks decreed that I had been molested because I was "sexually precocious." So a woman who earns a living off flaunting her sexuality must suffer from the same damage.

    Many people are threatened by strippers; they are afraid. And they'll always look for a way to distance them from things that make them uncomfortable. They can reassure themselves that their daughters won't be strippers because they had good upbringing, they can convince themselves that they're so different from us they'll never "have" to put themselves on display, and a small few of them believe it's okay to abuse strippers because that's what we're used to anyway.

    It's just part of the job. If it were an easy job with no stigma, we'd all be making minimum wage.

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    Default Re: Okay, WHY do people assume strippers have been sexually abused?

    Quote Originally Posted by Yekhefah View Post
    Many people are threatened by strippers; they are afraid. And they'll always look for a way to distance them from things that make them uncomfortable. They can reassure themselves that their daughters won't be strippers because they had good upbringing, they can convince themselves that they're so different from us they'll never "have" to put themselves on display, and a small few of them believe it's okay to abuse strippers because that's what we're used to anyway.

    It's just part of the job. If it were an easy job with no stigma, we'd all be making minimum wage.
    Well said!!

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    Default Re: Okay, WHY do people assume strippers have been sexually abused?

    Because Mary Anne Layden, Ph. D., says so:

    Most strippers, as with other women who work in the sex industry, are adult survivors of childhood sexual abuse. Research indicates the number is between 60%-80%.

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    Default Re: Okay, WHY do people assume strippers have been sexually abused?

    I would just like to point out that a lot of non-strippers are victims of sexual abuse. What on earth does that have to do with anything ? I was sexually assaulted AFTER becoming a stripper. Post s like these annoy me.
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    Default Re: Okay, WHY do people assume strippers have been sexually abused?

    I think physical or emotional abuse or neglect might be more common than sexual abuse. For women, hell all people, in general. Not just dancers. But those aren't as glamorous and newsworthy as sex abuse.

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    Default Re: Okay, WHY do people assume strippers have been sexually abused?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lysondra View Post
    Wait... you haven't?

    When I'm done sucking my brother's dick I'm gonna have to have to talk with you, 'cause I am only strippin to pay for my daddy's penis enlargement and my husband's hospital bills from breaking his fist on my face.
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    Default Re: Okay, WHY do people assume strippers have been sexually abused?

    Quote Originally Posted by Silverback View Post
    Because Mary Anne Layden, Ph. D., says so


    You were quoting that ironically, right? She wrote that "statement" with not a single reference to any peer-reviewed study for the quoted statistics. Moreover, it was written for an organization called "Morality in Media," which apparently had severe moral objections to what they term, "The so-called Erotica USA tradeshow."

    Mmm, let me try:

    "According to research, 78% of social scientists insist on using "PhD" after their names because, as we know, that relieves them of the need to actually cite peer-reviewed studies for statistics quoted in their writings. In addition, 54.9% of those secretly acknowledge that PhD degrees are about as common as air molecules, actually work against them achieving gainful employment in their chosen field due to massive over-supply, and fail to impart even the most minimal English composition skills, leading them to write meaningless drivel, like "sexual addiction causes these men to lose their professions."

    Now, damn, where did I put my profession? I can't seem to find it anywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Other Owner View Post
    "According to research, 78% of social scientists insist on using "PhD" after their names because, as we know, that relieves them of the need to actually cite peer-reviewed studies for statistics quoted in their writings. In addition, 54.9% of those secretly acknowledge that PhD degrees are about as common as air molecules, actually work against them achieving gainful employment in their chosen field due to massive over-supply, and fail to impart even the most minimal English composition skills, leading them to write meaningless drivel, like "sexual addiction causes these men to lose their professions."
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    Default Re: Okay, WHY do people assume strippers have been sexually abused?

    Quote Originally Posted by twisterinAZ View Post
    I would just like to point out that a lot of non-strippers are victims of sexual abuse. What on earth does that have to do with anything ? I was sexually assaulted AFTER becoming a stripper. Post s like these annoy me.
    I agree.

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    Default Re: Okay, WHY do people assume strippers have been sexually abused?

    A South Salt Lake City Council Member, during debate as to whether to pass a law prohibiting nude dancing at clubs that did not serve alcohol, said that all strippers had been molested as children and had low self esteem. So far as I know, he never said how he came by that knowledge.

    This thread shows the stats for those who responded, but the "I have never been raped or molested" includes both men and women: http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/sho...ighlight=raped

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    Default Re: Okay, WHY do people assume strippers have been sexually abused?

    People who were abused grow up to be in occupations other than dancing, just as people who were never abused wind up in dancing.

    I was sexually abused as a child/teen. I think the experience gave me the strength to handle this job. I think I took a negative experience and I am handling it in a way that has been beneficial and positive for me. And I have a healthy self- esteem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Other Owner View Post
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    You were quoting that ironically, right?

    I was being facetious. I'm not aware of any obvious irony. I don't personally have a clue as to the number (or percentage) of dancers that were victims of childhood sexual abuse. My personal observation (limited data set) is that childhood sexual abuse may be the best way to insure that a person has very few close personal relationships. I can't say with any certainty how it affects career choices.
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    Default Re: Okay, WHY do people assume strippers have been sexually abused?

    well whats the stat? like 1 in 5 girls were a victim of some kind of sexual assalt/molestation, etc. So if you got an employee list of 100 people who are all women you have a higher rate, than say, 100 people of which only a few are women.

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    Default Re: Okay, WHY do people assume strippers have been sexually abused?

    Maybe I am in the minority, but I totally fit the stripper stereotype of growing up with an abusive dad, being molested (by a family friend), coming from a shitty family, anger towards men, etc. I fit some other stereotypes, too. I dated a married man for years, I sporadically abused drugs, I was a bit promiscuous before I met my BF, etc. But in retrospect I did all those things because I was sad, lonely, and felt powerless, not because I'm a bad person.

    I don't think I ever would have become a stripper if I had grown up with a loving father and was never sexually abused. I definitely worked out some of my issues by becoming a dancer, actually. I still find myself in similar situations dancing as I did growing up, almost re-enacting things that have happened to me in the past and trying to re-claim my power. It's kind of a do over for me, re-learning my rights, boundaries, and my relationship with men. I understand men very well now. Not all are monsters like my father and molester (but they certainly are all horndogs), and I am now able to trust and love a man. It's a big accomplishment for me to be able to do that when other people take it for granted.

    But will the stereotype transfer over once I have a normal job? Will people start saying "All pharmaceutical sales reps were molested" or "All small business owners were molested" or "All law students were molested"? Nope.

    There are victims in every profession, walk of life, gender, etc. We just get picked on because feigning sexual promiscuity is our job description. There are victims amongst us struggling through their issues, but probably no more than most other jobs. Instead of fucking the married boss and being the office slut, we enchant men for money. Same thing, but we do it onstage for all to see.

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    Default Re: Okay, WHY do people assume strippers have been sexually abused?

    i think people use dancing as a scapegoat of not dealing with the real reason of why they want to dance.
    I find that blame to be BS
    When ppl are abused or molested the thought of "hey, now i should become a stripper" doesnt just automatically pop into their mind

    The only reasons ppl dance is because the like the money or the like the art form.

    I dont believe anything else.




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