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    Over on the pink side, a guy named Johnny Diablo is recruiting dancers for a brand-new club in Portland, OR called Casa Diablo, see here and here. He's been slowly revealing prices and fees for the dancers over the past week or so, and he seems to be responsive to the dancers' requests - for instance, he instituted a $1 stage fee (that's right, a dollar) for the opening period, to attract dancers from other clubs.

    All that's great and I have no problem with any of that. I think it's savvy marketing and business.

    But I was floored when he mentioned the VIP prices: $300 per half-hour, and $500 per hour, with the dancer keeping 70%.

    Now, admittedly, I don't buy VIPs. Part of that is that I'm cheap, and part of it is the fact that the clubs I go to don't even offer them (I prefer dive-y bars to the more upscale "gentlemen's clubs" that seem to offer VIP rooms)... and of course, part of it is the fact that Portland is a no-touch, very low mileage city. Holy hell, if I was going to drop $500 for alone time with a girl, I'd expect full service (not that I've ever done that, of course *ahem*).

    So my question for all y'all blue siders: what do VIPs cost in Portland? What would you expect to get from them? What about other cities - how much and what would you get in return?

    This Casa Diablo club sounds great and all... right up 'til he priced the VIP rooms. And I knew asking this question over on the pink side would get no response - the girls of SW are far cleaner and more legal than the nasty "extras" girls that would make a visit to a VIP room (especially in Portland) worth it for a discriminating guy like myself.
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    At the Dolphin II the VIP prices are $250/$500. At Dolphin I the VIP dance is one song for $40, house keeps $10. I don't know about the VIPs at the Viewpoint, but I'm thinking about checking that place out this week so I'll let you know.

    Some guys have no issue with paying that much. It's not comparable to the escort market.
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    it is and it isn't. some escorts primarily are paid to, well, escort rather than have the sex0rs. i am sure some of them would argue it 'isn't comparable', too.

    in my experience, the guys who pay just to talk also pay for the sex0rs-- just not with the same girls necessarily. and in that respect, it's comparable.

    i worked in houston, which is high-contact averagely (for comparison), and i charged 100-200 for 20 minutes of conversation, for the guys who wanted to pay to hang out. and that was in a city with no set vip rates or vip-specific rooms.

    but my perspective is coloured by the fact that portland only really allows white and asian looking dancers to strip-- since i'm not in that category, i have no idea what portland customers would expect from such dancers in a set-price vip scenario.

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    The only club I've worked at with a VIP was in Salem, where the VIP was 150 per half hour and 300 for a full. That sounds a lot more reasonable to me than Diablo's rates, and a lot easier to sell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LilyLove View Post
    The only club I've worked at with a VIP was in Salem, where the VIP was 150 per half hour and 300 for a full. That sounds a lot more reasonable to me than Diablo's rates, and a lot easier to sell.
    But at Casa Diablo we have a secret weapon. Out of the 30% that goes to the house we give one third of that which is 10% of the original amount to the employees for facilitating the sale. In other words, our employees are helping you hustle, keeping a look out for the gentlemen with money and keeping track of which dancers they are into and encouraging them to invest in the top of the line services. Another third or 10% of the original amount goes to animal charity which can be used as a way of having the gentlemen rationalize that they are actually performing a good deed so they should spend that money. So in actuality the house is really only receiving 10% of the original amount.

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    ^^^
    I'm sorry - just to check - you are conscripting dancer earnings to give to charity? And there is no legal problem with that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenny View Post
    ^^^
    I'm sorry - just to check - you are conscripting dancer earnings to give to charity? And there is no legal problem with that?
    Absolutely no legal problem with that at all. You see it would only be a problem if the dancers were actual employees at Casa Diablo but they are not. They are private contractors. Which means if they don't like what we are offering here then they are free to take their business elsewhere. It's a free country. I believe that dancers will make more money at Casa Diablo than any where else. If one is not happy with our fee structure than by all means one should not work here.

    Oh by the way, they tried the whole employee thing in San Francisco a while back and with government intervention, as always, the dancers income fell significantly so they went back to the usual way as private contractors.

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    ^^^
    you know, with the type of white folks who populate portland and prefer animals to people of color, that might very well be a compelling reason to sell vips.

    jenny isn't american, so throwing the whole sf debacle in her face is a bit ridiculous.

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    Johnny: that's all well and good, but again: your prices for VIP seems higher than other clubs in the Portland area, and the norm for private dances in Portland is a lot less contact than other municipalities in states not nicknamed "The Beaver State". I'm pretty sure that the OLCC requires no contact, in fact.

    The dancers make money, the club makes money, the wait staff and bouncers make money, the endangered spotted owls and bald eagles and kittens make money. That's awesome.

    However... I already admitted that I'm partially a cheapskate, but I'm also used to clubbing in Portland, and I can find a good benefit-to-dollar ratio in the clubs I frequent.

    You're doing a great job of listening to the dancers and creating a work environment tailored for them... How about the customers (of which I appear to be the only local customer posting on SW or SCJ)? What's the justification for the higher VIPs, and, for that matter, the higher lap dances - didn't you say those were up to $35?
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    Quote Originally Posted by miabella View Post
    ^^^
    you know, with the type of white folks who populate portland and prefer animals to people of color, that might very well be a compelling reason to sell vips.

    jenny isn't american, so throwing the whole sf debacle in her face is a bit ridiculous.
    My bad. Sometimes it is tough to feel the actual tone through an email. It felt like a personal attack. Anyways, hugs and kisses all around Jenny and Miabella.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Diablo View Post
    Absolutely no legal problem with that at all. You see it would only be a problem if the dancers were actual employees at Casa Diablo but they are not. They are private contractors.
    I realize that Johnny, being in the industry, having worked many places, and being an intelligent person. It is really only relevant if you actually believe that there are no laws governing how you treat independent contractors. And... there are. So. Back to my question. Are you sure that is legal? Because it doesn't sound to me, offhand, based on this answer, like you've thought it through.
    Which means if they don't like what we are offering here then they are free to take their business elsewhere. It's a free country.
    It's really only so free, actually. There are still these pesky laws.

    Oh by the way, they tried the whole employee thing in San Francisco a while back and with government intervention, as always, the dancers income fell significantly so they went back to the usual way as private contractors.

    Regards.
    Dude, I probably know way more about that than you do. I know perfectly well that there is not only one possible model for fair employee treatment; and I haven't actually advocated for it in any case. I also know perfectly well that conscripting a contractor into charitable giving will not necessarily be seen as a reasonable user fee; saying that they have to pay you is one thing; saying that they have to pay an unrelated third party is something else.
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    Johnny:

    You mentioned (maybe this thread or another) having had other restaurants. Other Vegan restaurants? In Portland or elsewhere? Just curious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunarobverse View Post
    Johnny: that's all well and good, but again: your prices for VIP seems higher than other clubs in the Portland area, and the norm for private dances in Portland is a lot less contact than other municipalities in states not nicknamed "The Beaver State". I'm pretty sure that the OLCC requires no contact, in fact.

    The dancers make money, the club makes money, the wait staff and bouncers make money, the endangered spotted owls and bald eagles and kittens make money. That's awesome.

    However... I already admitted that I'm partially a cheapskate, but I'm also used to clubbing in Portland, and I can find a good benefit-to-dollar ratio in the clubs I frequent.

    You're doing a great job of listening to the dancers and creating a work environment tailored for them... How about the customers (of which I appear to be the only local customer posting on SW or SCJ)? What's the justification for the higher VIPs, and, for that matter, the higher lap dances - didn't you say those were up to $35?
    Lunar, I feel your pain, brother. I really do. I know there is a big polarity between income classes in Portland. But let me put it this way. If all the other dealerships are selling Honda & Chevys and a new dealership comes along selling Mercedes Benz should we not sell the benz' just because most people can't afford them? When you come to Casa Diablo you will have a variety of pricing options but quality cost money and that is what we are selling ... quality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Diablo View Post
    Lunar, I feel your pain, brother. I really do. I know there is a big polarity between income classes in Portland. But let me put it this way. If all the other dealerships are selling Honda & Chevys and a new dealership comes along selling Mercedes Benz should we not sell the benz' just because most people can't afford them? When you come to Casa Diablo you will have a variety of pricing options but quality cost money and that is what we are selling ... quality.

    Let's sit down and have a beer sometime. The drink is on me.
    Don't get me wrong. My dad always taught me to buy the best I can afford. I'm typing this on a top-of-the-line Apple MacBook Pro, in fact. Long-time Apple customers like myself know all about spending more for quality, believe you, me.

    And I will definitely check out Casa Diablo and will let you know when I'm stopping by.

    But, again, with just my knowledge of local strip clubs and what they've offerred for the past 20 years, it's difficult for me to justify paying more for the same ol' thing, even if it would be coming from a higher-quality dancer such as inhabit SW.

    Guess I'll just have to try it myself...
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    Quote Originally Posted by sun child View Post
    At the Dolphin II the VIP prices are usually $200-250 per half hour and $400-500 per hour.
    They have standardized it now; it's $250/$500.

    Quote Originally Posted by miabella View Post
    but my perspective is coloured by the fact that portland only really allows white and asian looking dancers to strip-- since i'm not in that category, i have no idea what portland customers would expect from such dancers in a set-price vip scenario.
    While Portland is the first or second whitest city in America, I've seen WOC (AA/Latina women) at most every club I've been to. As far as customer expectations, well, locals are usually happy with better dances than those available in the regular dance area but aren't expecting Seattle-type mileage.

    As far as mileage, the juice bars/jack shacks are going to give more, ahem, bang for the buck than the Dolphin or Stars or Viewpoint VIP rooms.

    I do think the D2 set price sucks because the point of entry is too steep -- every stripper knows you can sell more VIPs when you can start off with a 3/$100 than with a $250-$300 starting price. It is Portland, after all, and I have worked in Atlanta and Philly, much larger cities with more spendy customers, and the VIP prices aren't that high. For the combination of relatively low mileage and the saturated market I think a lower point of entry would be smart. I'm sure some of you guys have tried out a 3/$100 and then spent more, when you would not have shelled out $300 upfront in the same club.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Susan Wayward View Post
    While Portland is the first or second whitest city in America, I've seen WOC (AA/Latina women) at most every club I've been to. As far as customer expectations, well, locals are usually happy with better dances than those available in the regular dance area but aren't expecting Seattle-type mileage.

    As far as mileage, the juice bars/jack shacks are going to give more, ahem, bang for the buck than the Dolphin or Stars or Viewpoint VIP rooms.
    And I've learned from spending time on SW that mileage isn't the only criteria for judging a dance... or a dancer, for that matter. Still, I'm sure I'm not the only customer that would be asking this question. I'm probably just the only customer on SW in Portland, used to the dive-y-er Portland clubs, and wondering what would distinguish a "gentleman's club" and "gentleman's club" pricing.

    And without crossing any hard-and-fast legal boundaries or otherwise incriminating myself, after a couple of decades of strip clubbing, I've managed to have a good time in Portland clubs, by my own personal definition of "good time". And not just in the Olden Times, either.

    Quote Originally Posted by Susan Wayward View Post
    I do think the D2 set price sucks because the point of entry is too steep -- every stripper knows you can sell more VIPs when you can start off with a 3/$100 than with a $250-$300 starting price. It is Portland, after all, and I have worked in Atlanta and Philly, much larger cities with more spendy customers, and the VIP prices aren't that high. For the combination of relatively low mileage and the saturated market I think a lower point of entry would be smart. I'm sure some of you guys have tried out a 3/$100 and then spent more, when you would not have shelled out $300 upfront in the same club.
    You're not the only dancer suggesting a lower price point for VIP. And Johnny D. does seem to listen to all y'all dancers...
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    I realize that Johnny, being in the industry, having worked many places, and being an intelligent person. It is really only relevant if you actually believe that there are no laws governing how you treat independent contractors. And... there are. So. Back to my question. Are you sure that is legal? Because it doesn't sound to me, offhand, based on this answer, like you've thought it through.

    It's really only so free, actually. There are still these pesky laws.


    Dude, I probably know way more about that than you do. I know perfectly well that there is not only one possible model for fair employee treatment; and I haven't actually advocated for it in any case. I also know perfectly well that conscripting a contractor into charitable giving will not necessarily be seen as a reasonable user fee; saying that they have to pay you is one thing; saying that they have to pay an unrelated third party is something else.
    Dudette,

    30% goes to the house. I can do with that what ever I want. I just so happen to choose to give a third of it to my employees to help dancers make more money and i just so happen to choose to give a third of it to charity which the dancers and employees can use as a tool to try to secure more dances. Would you rather I keep the money in my pocket like most of the other club owners would do? Stop, pissing on a good thing. The fact that you used the word advocated tells me that you are trying to fuck things up just like lawyers do.

    Look Jenny, you dance with law students. Go ask them yourself if you are so worried about it but please stop wasting my time.
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    She's not wasting your time, just trying to clarify a point. Please be calm.

    Oh, and to Jenny's point about donating part of the VIP cut to charity -- Every club I've worked at with a VIP takes a cut -- be it a room fee or a percentage of the price. I mean, everywhere else I'm sure it goes back into maintaining the excellent amenities like occasionally functioning toilets and climate control in the dressing rooms. This is the first case I've heard of where a club was donating part of it (sounds like documenting that will be interesting . . . ).

    It's probably as legal as most house fees, which is to say not, (though maybe more legal than a house fee since they are effectively charging the customer and not taking a fee from the dancer) but is still SOP in clubs all around the country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Susan Wayward View Post
    She's not wasting your time, just trying to clarify a point. Please be calm.

    Oh, and to Jenny's point about donating part of the VIP cut to charity -- Every club I've worked at with a VIP takes a cut -- be it a room fee or a percentage of the price. I mean, everywhere else I'm sure it goes back into maintaining the excellent amenities like occasionally functioning toilets and climate control in the dressing rooms. This is the first case I've heard of where a club was donating part of it (sounds like documenting that will be interesting . . . ).

    It's probably as legal as most house fees, which is to say not, (though maybe more legal than a house fee since they are effectively charging the customer and not taking a fee from the dancer) but is still SOP in clubs all around the country.
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    With all due respect. She is wasting my time. I have dealt with a lot of wanna be lawyers in Los Angeles and I can tell when someone is a "Legal" crack head. My time is valuable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Diablo View Post
    I have dealt with a lot of wanna be lawyers in Los Angeles and I can tell when someone is a "Legal" crack head. My time is valuable.
    Is that what happened to your previous restaurants? Wannabe lawyers?
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    Is that what happened to your previous restaurants? Wannabe lawyers?
    Nope. What happened to my other restaurants were the extremely poor vegans. Compared to the average dumpster diving vegan in Portland Lunar, you look like a Donald Trump. Probably won't find too many of them in the VIP lounge.

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    Lunar, the VIP prices are fine. It's a luxury service. Yes, most customers will balk at the $300/30 minute rate, but then again, some customers will pay. I do think they should be lowered to $250/$500 with a 20% cut (instead of 30%). I heard that $20 dances are offered, too. That will be good for guys in your price range. You can say "But for $500, I'd want full service," but the point is, many men will pay the amount. Maybe that's too high for you, but it's good for us.

    miabella, you need to chill about the race issues. I have worked with many dancers of all races and they've done well. There is a lot of harmony among us all, at least in my experience working here for over two years. Did you work here? Also, I don't care what you charged to talk. I was just saying that the escort market and dancer market are not comparable. An hour of VIP at a strip club is going to be by and large more expensive than an hour with the AVERAGE escort. And we wonder why there are so many girls doing extras in strip clubs instead of escorting on their own.

    People will pay the money. They do at Dolphin II and they do elsewhere, even if it's not high contact. What are the contact rules going to be like at Casa Diablo, Johnny? Couch or table dances?
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    ^ditto. I've danced with plenty of black and hispanic dancers, and they do just as well and are just as wanted in portland as the asian and white dancers.

    edit : in fact, one of the top earners at the D2 when I was there was hispanic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Diablo View Post
    Dudette,

    30% goes to the house. I can do with that what ever I want.
    Well, then it might be wise if you don't characterize it as "the house only receiving 10%" Then we won't have these misunderstandings.

    Look Jenny, you dance with law students. Go ask them yourself if you are so worried about it but please stop wasting my time.
    I don't know any in Oregon. Although the fact that your back is so far up tells me that you don't actually know the answer to this; you might want to find out. And if clarifying points and answering questions on the topic you brought up and one that is of fairly crucial importance to the clientele (I won't say employees) that you are trying to attract is a waste of your time... then your time might be far too valuable to be squandering on message boards. You might consider that if you come here to promote someone might, sooner or later, ask you a question. Come on now - surely we can still be friends even if I raise questions about your labour model?

    And what is it with people getting so mad about my vocabulary recently? What is it about words like "advocate" and "elucidate" that is making guys so angry?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Diablo View Post
    Out of the 30% that goes to the house we give one third of that which is 10% of the original amount to the employees for facilitating the sale.
    He did say that 30% went to the house.

    From my understand his model is
    a) 10% goes to charity
    b) 10% goes to the employees
    c) 10% is "his"

    That seems pretty noble to me. Why would donating that 10% cut (that is his anyway) to charity be illegal? I think he might have gotten angry because it was I'd rather not give 30%. 20 seems better. But I wouldn't mind so much if 10% was actually going to an appropriate charity.

    We'll see how it all works out.

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