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    Default Advice on dollar dancing

    Ok. I hate dollar dances. I usually hide in the back because I find it degrading and I don't have any problem selling full-price dances and VIPs. So I view it as a waste of time and effort for the most part.

    I know a lot of dancers feel the same way. But since dollar dances aren't going away I thought I'd try to make the best of them.

    So who here has some good advice on upselling during dollar dances? What's your approach? I mean, who uses the time to sell regular or VIP dances and how do you go about it? Do you scope out the crowd while on stage during the cattle call?

    When I do dollar dances I usually stay by one guy while he gives me a couple dollars a song. But maybe I should be moving before the song changes...the songs are probably 30 secs long.

    So what's your approach?

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    if the dollar dances are longer than 30 seconds, and the club won't charge you or penalise you in some way for hiding out, hide out. it's not worth your time unless you can have a customer pay you 50-100 for the time (maybe a bit less if the time in question is only 2-4 songs in length).

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    Dollar dances can be a way to make a decent amount of money in a short period of time, if played right. At my club during halftime at football games we have dollar dances. They play full songs, but no dancer ever stays for the full song. You only go up to guys who have their dollars out and ready. Speed is key, and you don't have time to waste while a guy digs a single out of his pocket, so approach only those who are holding the money or displaying it on the table or whatever. Walk up and just start dancing, a wiggle a shake, hold out yoru garter and collect, dance for maybe 15 seconds before collecting. Ask him if he would like you to continue and if he agrees, dance a few seconds, hold out the garter, repeat until he is no longer interested in feeding you singles and move on to the next guy.

    This is how I would do it during half time and could make between $50-$150 in just a few short miuntes. They key is to just have the guys keep feeding you ones every few seconds. When he stops feeding, you move on.

    Or..you can just jump from lap to lap to lap, ut I find you make more money by staying with the same guy as long as possible because for every lap jump, you lose precious seconds that could have been used getting dollars. As I said with dollar dances, speed is key.

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    Dollar dances at my club are $5 for maybe a minute or two. Busy night I try to get as many as i can within one song,either from him or the next guy. Like said above, go quickly. A lot of times Ive made $100's(ok,nearly) in dollar dances in the time it took to do a couple privates. speed is key and if ur at a full table, announce how much it is, so the next guys will have money ready to give u,so u dont waste time explaining and waiting.

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    the general rule at my club, that a dancer-turned-manager advised, is $1/minute. we do 30 minute stage sets so when the club is slow, this really supplements the night's earning. also, there's *always* someone watching you dance for someone else. make it good!

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    Our dollar dances go something like this...the dj plays a 30 second snippet of a song, and then says "switch," and plays another 30 seconds of a song. At this point, either the guy can pay us another dollar, or we can move on to the next guy. There's usually about 6 switches per dollar dance, and they do it every hour. So, for a six hour shift, you have the potential to make $36. Woo hoo.

    So, since I can't actually make any money during dollar dances, I (and I think FemmeFatale was also curious,) would like to know if anyone has advice on how to upsell while doing dollar dances? As a newbie with crappy hustling skills, it's never even crossed my mind to try to upsell during dollar dances, so yes, any suggestions would be awesome!!

    The only things coming to mind are saying something like, "If you like what you see out here you would LOVE what I could show you in the back," or something to that effect.

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    Please do not refer to it as a "dollar dance" in front of customers, unless you want to guarantee that you will only make one dollar. Girls at my club do this and it drives me crazy. They do it so much that the guys will routinely ask for them by name, when just across the city they do not. If you must do it, call it a table dance, or a dance, or a small dance--anything other than a "dollar" dance.

    If your dj is calling it that, I guess you can't do much about it. But is up to us to train the guys to pay an appropriate amount for what we do. If someone asks me to do it I usually tell them politely that I would love to dance for them in the back. If he says no to that I tell him to come up and see me when I'm on stage. I'll make an exception for $5 and over.

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    In some markets like Iowa, dollar dances are common in virtually every club. Guys are used to them. You rarely dance more than 30 seconds, and most guys will give you at least $2. In that environment, the DJ doesn't announce them, the girls just work them on their own all night. They can be icebreakers, and for the right customer lead into regular priced private dances.

    The mistakes I have seen many girls make in dollar dance environments is just going from table to table asking and doing dollar dances, but never going back to the guys and trying to get private dances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andygirl View Post
    Please do not refer to it as a "dollar dance" in front of customers, unless you want to guarantee that you will only make one dollar. Girls at my club do this and it drives me crazy. They do it so much that the guys will routinely ask for them by name, when just across the city they do not. If you must do it, call it a table dance, or a dance, or a small dance--anything other than a "dollar" dance.

    If your dj is calling it that, I guess you can't do much about it. But is up to us to train the guys to pay an appropriate amount for what we do. If someone asks me to do it I usually tell them politely that I would love to dance for them in the back. If he says no to that I tell him to come up and see me when I'm on stage. I'll make an exception for $5 and over.
    I think you've given me this advice before, and I'm glad you did because its been working for me. I've found I've gotten the best response by saying, "Would you like a little dance?" The only problems I've run into are guys around here who are so used to hearing it called a "dollar dance" that they get confused and ask questions and waste my time. If I sense time-wasting confusion I tell them its a dollar (or more *giggle* dance).

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    We have a mandatory full-song nude table dance. Most girls hustle the guys with a "3 for 2" or something similar. They buy 2 dances from her and then she will give them her free table dance.

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    I've danced at clubs where at least a third of your take home was a result of dollar dances. I would try to pull for $1 every 15 to 20 seconds, changing up my dance for every dollar or every other dollar. Stay until they tell you to go. You would be surprised how quickly those dollars add up. And don't ask if they want one, walk up with a smile (and some energy) and start making money.

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    Default Re: Advice on dollar dancing

    i just move on "to the next guy" till one of them starts tipping really well. i can usually make between 50-100 bucks during "dollar dances".

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    Default Re: Advice on dollar dancing

    it just sucks cause the dj always announces for the girls to change guys when he cuts to the next song. the songs are about 30 seconds (too long i think). i guess i just need to ignore that and keep moving, but the whole strategy of staying at one table is ruined if i keep moving on...and if i stay, then chances are it was a buck for 30 seconds!

    and they are announced as "dollar dances." grrr.... and they really only do this on weekend nights, when i am busy hustling only to be interrupted.

    should i just keep moving and be more pushy about tipping? or just screw the whole thing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andygirl View Post
    Please do not refer to it as a "dollar dance" in front of customers, unless you want to guarantee that you will only make one dollar. Girls at my club do this and it drives me crazy. They do it so much that the guys will routinely ask for them by name, when just across the city they do not. If you must do it, call it a table dance, or a dance, or a small dance--anything other than a "dollar" dance.

    If your dj is calling it that, I guess you can't do much about it. But is up to us to train the guys to pay an appropriate amount for what we do. If someone asks me to do it I usually tell them politely that I would love to dance for them in the back. If he says no to that I tell him to come up and see me when I'm on stage. I'll make an exception for $5 and over.
    YES...PLEASE!!

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