Dose this book really exsist? The Book of Shawdows. I was wacthing Super Natural. I also heard of this book. On the Tv show "The Charm Ones".
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Dose this book really exsist? The Book of Shawdows. I was wacthing Super Natural. I also heard of this book. On the Tv show "The Charm Ones".
Last edited by leilanicandy; 01-31-2008 at 08:52 PM.
If you want the present to be differant from the past, study the past.
Baruch Spindza
It is what it is, not what you want it to become, that's important -- at least for now. Today, remember that things worth having are worth waiting for!
The Stars
Minds are like parachutes: They only function when open.
Thomas Dewar
Dont throw away the old bucket until you know whether the new one holds water.
Swedish Proverb





If you want the present to be differant from the past, study the past.
Baruch Spindza
It is what it is, not what you want it to become, that's important -- at least for now. Today, remember that things worth having are worth waiting for!
The Stars
Minds are like parachutes: They only function when open.
Thomas Dewar
Dont throw away the old bucket until you know whether the new one holds water.
Swedish Proverb
All the practitioners of Wicca that I know have a personal BoS. I lean toward CM myself, so I carry around books in Hebrew and obscure treatises by turn-of-the century weirdos, myself. Same thing, kind of.
My mom had one that she made herself. I guess it differs from person to person. Pretty interesting stuf though!





Last edited by leilanicandy; 01-31-2008 at 10:29 PM.
If you want the present to be differant from the past, study the past.
Baruch Spindza
It is what it is, not what you want it to become, that's important -- at least for now. Today, remember that things worth having are worth waiting for!
The Stars
Minds are like parachutes: They only function when open.
Thomas Dewar
Dont throw away the old bucket until you know whether the new one holds water.
Swedish Proverb
i was expecting this thread to be about the shitty blair witch sequel haha





If you want the present to be differant from the past, study the past.
Baruch Spindza
It is what it is, not what you want it to become, that's important -- at least for now. Today, remember that things worth having are worth waiting for!
The Stars
Minds are like parachutes: They only function when open.
Thomas Dewar
Dont throw away the old bucket until you know whether the new one holds water.
Swedish Proverb
I'd love to learn modern Hebrew, if I had the time. Have a couple good friends from Israel, and they're constantly using it knowing damn well the dumb Americans they hang around can't understand them. We just write it off to them being spies in the Mossad.
Unfortunately, just about all of the words I can speak or write are different names for god, or have some other kabbalistic use. Not much good for everyday conversation.




I have one....actually I have two. One large book where I keep most of my rituals/writings/findings and such and a small one my friend made for me that conatains my Pet Reqium(Pet funeral) and a few other small incantaions...kinda like my pocket guide!



Being a Wiccan Practic (Yes I'm a real good witch)...there is no "almighty one and only book of shadows". A book of shadows is a book of records, spells, guidelines, various entries of a witch's magical journey. It's optional for a a wiccan practitioner to have one.





If you want the present to be differant from the past, study the past.
Baruch Spindza
It is what it is, not what you want it to become, that's important -- at least for now. Today, remember that things worth having are worth waiting for!
The Stars
Minds are like parachutes: They only function when open.
Thomas Dewar
Dont throw away the old bucket until you know whether the new one holds water.
Swedish Proverb
Thats basically what I was going to say , a BoS is like your self made manual ....you record things you learn and things you want to remember , it can even be as simple as a notebook , its yours and sometimes you can pass it on if need be ...the best thing about Wicca and paganism in general is that you can bend the rules a little because its about growing and loving ....*sniffle* I totally dont practice enough . I am a bad pagan , I havent practice since the summer solstice ....naughty naughty am I .
on a side note I have the walls in my bedroom decorated to honor which ever direction they face , my East wall has clouds and a sun and dragonflies ( the element is AIR) etc etc and my south wall has hearts in reds and golds ( my own interpretations for FIRE) my west wall has a Moon and things in water colors (for WATER) and my north wall has trees and flowers all things pertaining to earth and nature (FOR EARTH)......I havent had an alter since my daughter learned to walk ....but she has a wand ...well its broken ...of course , haha
Visit me on myspace , Let me know if your from SW !!!!





What 'charm ones'? Are you talking about Charmed? I used to watch that show all the time, but I hate when characters get replaced, so I don't care for it anymore.



The form of Wicca I practice is called Eclectic...meaning I take and choose from various traditions and beliefs...I do follow a specific "way". There are some people who are hardcore by the book with certain traditions like Dianic, Gardner tradition, etc.
I'm solitary I don't practice in a coven (a group)...I know alot of spiritual people who are not necessarly wiccan but in the same sort of spiritual belief. We share cultures, ideas etc...
There are alot of "spiritual" (supernatural sounds chees) practices out there but what makes them different is Wicca it's as "white" magick as you can get. Main rules, do not harm others and don't harm yourself, and what you do goes back to 3 fold.
Some have even called Wiccan "watered down" magick because self gain is a no no, there are alot of people who abuse their power, usually wiccans are not suppose to be there's bad apples everywhere.
I can go on and on so feel free to ask questions.




I'm an Eclectic Wiccan, and have a BoS. It has been with me since I started practicing almost six years ago. It has changed binders three times (because they keep falling apart! >.< ) but it is super precious to me. No one opens it but me. I go to great lengths to make sure no one opens it but me. As weird as it may sound, I've got magick cast on it to hex anyone who opens it out of ill-intent. If it was an accident, that's different.
BTW, Happy Imbolc, you Pagans out there!





If you want the present to be differant from the past, study the past.
Baruch Spindza
It is what it is, not what you want it to become, that's important -- at least for now. Today, remember that things worth having are worth waiting for!
The Stars
Minds are like parachutes: They only function when open.
Thomas Dewar
Dont throw away the old bucket until you know whether the new one holds water.
Swedish Proverb
I think a lot of modern pagans lean toward a more eclectic belief structure, taking what works for them out of different traditions, and leaving the rest. I was raised Catholic, but began looking elsewhere when I realized that while the underlying message was pure, there was a lot of man-made dogma injected into the faith that I couldn't agree with.
Wiccans and Western Hermetics (people who practice Ceremonial magick) tend to be more questioning and see faith and spirituality as a much more personal process. And while this makes a lot of us more accepting of others' beliefs that may differ, there are still a good number of closed-minded practicioners, who swear the path they follow is the only one with merit.
Your situation sounds a lot like mine. I've avoided joining any temple or lodge, but have a group of friends and acquaintances of different but complimentary beliefs that gets together and discusses topics of interest. On occasion, some of us have done some practical work together with mixed results.
The path of Western Hermeticism and it's cousin, Thelema, are centered around completion of "the Great Work". Most of the ritual work and tenants of belief involve personal growth, the purification of the Self (soul or Will), to aspire to become more like the divine. This is best summed up with the phrase "As Above, so Below". Mankind is a reflection of the divine, and by scraping away all of the mortal and material crap that infects our selves, we can achieve unity with our higher selves.
In the Thelemic Book of the Law is written:
"There is no law beyond Do what thou wilt. ...Love is the law, love under will."
Many people have used the first part of this quote to accuse Aleister Crowley of being a satanist saying that people can do whatever they want. Taken out of context, and without an understanding that to a Thelemite, Will means something far different than a person's base desires, it's an easy leap to anarchy or selfishness. However, understanding that Will comes from the 'higher self', and therefor from the divine, means that anyone acting according to their Will is acting out of love and in harmony with all things. Thus, an adept, by their nature, performs white magick.
The same is true in every religion and belief., whether it's child molesters masquerading as Catholic priests, Christian televangelists out to get rich off of the 'donations' of their flock of weak-willed sheep, or Wiccans and other pagans who use magick and ritual for material self-gain without considering the consequences to those around them.
One of my favorite authors has pretty simple but effective definitions for the 'types' of magick.
White magick - theurgy (divine working), magick performed in order to bring the practitioner closer to god/the divine. By its nature, such magick can never have a harmful result.
Gray magick - magick performed to cause a positive change in the environment. Devising a ritual or talisman to bring someone good health would be gray magick. The intentions are pure.
Black magick - magick performed which causes a negative change in the environment. Any magick that results in harm coming to someone or something would be considered black magick.
His theory is that any non-white or gray magick can unintentionally become black magick due to the law of cause and effect. Say you create a talisman for a friend desperately in need of money. The next day, he finds a $50 bill on the street. If it was your magick that brought that money to him, it may also have been your magick which separated that money from whoever's pocket or purse it dropped from. So, while you've helped your friend (positive change), you've also hurt a stranger (negative change). While the two may appear to balance out, three-fold law says you've got some bad karma coming back to you.
For this reason, I personally work almost exclusively with white magick/theurgy. If I do partake in any 'gray' work, it's only after significant thought, meditation, and a positive divination about the results.
Wow, I could go on all day, and have kind of gotten off topic. Of all the things I didn't expect to ever post about on Stripper Web, this was high on the list. Still, it seems like there's a decent number of open-minded people on here. Would anyone be interested in a generic 'Pagans Unite' thread where we could share thoughts and discussions on topic?
I have to say this. Anyone who is wiccan as i have been for years will know magick does not work! Spells do not work. I have been with extremely devoted wiccans who perform spells ALOT. Never, have any come true. Usually a spell or performing magick will come true if you already know the circumstance of a certain situation (this was going to happen anyway). This is the ONE part of Wicca that does not work.. casting spells.
I am now and have been for a few years solitary because of the BS people claim they can do. Casting a love spell on a person etc. etc. does not work.
Getting off our butts and making changes works. You can't sit back and cast a spell for love, unless you then act on it as well. It's like praying to God, pray then work on it. You pray and sit back say... for love, a man is not going to knock on your door saying i'm your partner.
Just don't want people to be mislead by Wicca.





Hebrew is really quite simple to learn. The structure and grammar are simpler than any Romance language I've ever studied. Check synagogues in your area, they frequently have good adult education programs.
Unfortunately most of what is touted as kabbalistic is a sham. Kabbala was reserved for a very specific group of people and lost through time. A friend of mine was "studying" Kabbala and tried to impress me with some words, turned out she memorized the worlds for a couple fruits.
Because there ain't no tits on the radio
While what I study and practice isn't the pop-kabbala of Madonna, it's also not directly taught as from the Bahir, Sephir Yetzirah, or Zohar. Rather, it's taking the Kabbalah, especially the Tree of Life, as part of a framework of synergistic systems for understanding the universe. Western ceremonial magick is part Kabbalah, part part Astrology, part Gnostic, and owes a lot to Freemasonry and other pseudo-Christian mysticism, with a lot of Egyptian symbolism thrown in.Originally Posted by hardkandee
While I agree with you, chanting a couple of phrases and ringing a bell isn't going to make it rain money, or make someone fall in love with you, I would disagree that magick doesn't work. The results from most of what I consider 'real' magick are internal. They are about becoming a better person, or more godlike. About recognizing and touching the spark of divine in oneself. It's similar to the path of the eastern mystic, but while the eastern student seeks to divorce themself from the world, the western occultist seems to master themselves and how they relate to the world around them.Originally Posted by Pamela
I have had spells work for me. I mean not like "oh I'm going to make so and so fall in love with me" but more general tIhings like opening myself up to love. I think it has alot to do with the power of thought. I don't think you can say...cast a spell thats going to make you get some job you want, but you can cast a spell or preform a ritual focused towards postive changes in the workplace or bringing prosperity your way. But I agree you can't cast a spell and expect something to just fall in your lap, but it can help you take the right actions or lead you in the right direction.




I've had spells work for me. I prefer not to perform them often, but when I do, I always see results, and not circumstantial ones. I have seen the concept of magick bolstered by quantum mechanics as well.




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