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    At the risk of sounding like sour grapes, I'm a bit ticked about a situation in my weekend club... One of the bartenders will give LDs. She told me that one of the managers won't allow her to do it, but another will. Now this is why I'm ticked off about this:

    1)Saturday night, she made more in LDs than I did, and *I* in turn made more than all but one other dancer (we had about 9-10 dancers Saturday). She gave at LEAST 7 dances that I SAW, and it does kind of upset me that she's making more off of LDs than I am. But it's not like she's only doing one or two LDs or whatever... She's making bank. She's giving the exact same kind of LD as the dancers, she's using the VIP room, etc. In essence, she's a DANCER while giving her LDs. The manager covers the bar whenever she goes to do dances.

    2)I'm paying house fees & tipouts. She's getting PAID to be there. Why should she get to give LDs (and make the bank off of it) if she's not paying house/tipout?

    3)I HAVE to get on-stage and take my top off. She doesn't. So it's easier for her to hustle dances, because the only way guys get to see HER tits is if they buy a LD. She gets to wear tennis shoes. We have to wear stripper heels. We have to walk the floor and hustle all night, do our stage-shows, etc. She just gets to do as many LDs as she wants without having to do all the OTHER stuff we have to do (dollar dances, cattle calls, fines & fees, etc.).

    4)Dancers in my club can set their own LD rates, but are NEVER permitted to go below $20. She (since she's not a dancer) can charge less than I'm allowed to charge. I don't know what she DOES charge, but the point is that she's given pretty much unlimited freedom that we dancers aren't.

    Is this common practice? It really bugs me that she's getting to do all the GOOD stuff that comes from being a dancer, without all the BAD stuff. I just wish that if she was going to be doing dances, they'd make her a DANCER and have her pay house & tipout and follow all the rules and do stages.

    I had two customers Saturday that told me they'd get dances from me after I got done with my stage, and when I got done, they were back in the back with HER! GRRRRRRR!!!

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    ohh, this would make me very very mad.

    Atone club I worked the waitress was giving lapdances and even going into VIP rooms. I threatened to quit if they kept allowing that to go on. She was fired the next day.

    Unfortunatly, I don't have advice for you..just that I'm sorry, cause it sucks bad, and it isn't fair at all.

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    I feel your pain. We had this girl who used to dance at our club for years. She was a phenomenal dancer. She was actually from Vegas. So when a girl from Vegas comes to Wisconsin with all those skills, she banked. Well she quit and decided to come back as a shot girl. For $5 she'd give these guys the dirtiest dances. She'd put her hands on the table and wrap her legs around their heads and practically face fuck them. As a dancer we can't even take both feet off the ground or get within 6 inches of these guys face's with our boobs! Then she'd talk these guy's into going to Champagne/VIP rooms so that they could see her boobs. She'd end up making twice what we did because she wasn't naked all night so the guy's wanted to see her naked. It was such b.s. Whenever she worked no one would make money. I remember once this girl was up in VIP and the shot girl went up there and whispered in the guy's ear to take her up there instead. He did. And no management didn't do shit because she was making money for the club. Oh the fairness of the stripclub business.

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    I'm sure plenty of other dancers there are ticked off by it too, maybe you can rally some girls into confronting the manager/s about it. Strength in numbers?

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    when i waitressed at scores, i got paid $150 to give a guy a lap dance. i totally see why that's not cool NOW that i dance, but we were allowed to do it.

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    wtf?! Does she still get tipped out? And her reg. pay? That's not cool if she does.
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    Does she solicit the customers for dances or do they ask her? I would be pissed off by the fact that she could make that kind of money without having to pay tip outs, house, etc.. Nobody should be getting this kind of special treatment. It's already bad enough when drunk female customers grind on men in the club for attention. I'm sure other dancers there feel the same way, go talk to the higher manager about it with them. Maybe she's only getting away with it because some people don't know. If she wants to dance and serve drinks, she should go work at a Coyote Ugly Saloon or something.

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    It pisses me off when I see it too. If you want to do lapdances and be a stripper, then pay a fucking house fee and be a stripper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by britt244 View Post
    when i waitressed at scores, i got paid $150 to give a guy a lap dance. i totally see why that's not cool NOW that i dance, but we were allowed to do it.
    At my old club, waitresses were allowed to give lapdances, but could charge $150 (or more) for it. During the daytime at this club there were very few dancers. Sometimes there weren't enough dancers to keep the stage rotation going, so the waitresses would get on stage and do a little tease show and maybe show their bra. They got tipped waaaay more to do this than the dancers got tipped for stripping down to a thong and crawling on the floor. Waitresses also make a commission at this club if they sell bottles of wine or champagne. Dancers make no commission on anything and get paid the same $20 per dance in the VIP as everywhere else in the club.

    I'm thinking seriously about going back to that club as a waitress. That club seems set up for waitresses to make money, not dancers. The waitresses even tend to be more attractive than the dancers. They get to keep their clothes on, which drives up the market price of their boobage. They make a commission on what they sell. Customers are friendlier to them, because they think the waitresses are their "friends" (ha!) while the dancers are "just about the money."

    Thing is, I KNOW how much I would resent -- and have resented -- hustling, cock-blocking waitresses in the past. I would definitely be willing to share the love and point out wealthy customers to the dancers I was cool with, but I KNOW many dancers would resent me anyway if I made money. Then again, a part of me thinks, let the best hustle win. I'm torn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morgan_TX View Post



    2)I'm paying house fees & tipouts. She's getting PAID to be there. Why should she get to give LDs (and make the bank off of it) if she's not paying house/tipout?

    3)I HAVE to get on-stage and take my top off. She doesn't. So it's easier for her to hustle dances, because the only way guys get to see HER tits is if they buy a LD. She gets to wear tennis shoes. We have to wear stripper heels. We have to walk the floor and hustle all night, do our stage-shows, etc. She just gets to do as many LDs as she wants without having to do all the OTHER stuff we have to do (dollar dances, cattle calls, fines & fees, etc.).



    Is this common practice? It really bugs me that she's getting to do all the GOOD stuff that comes from being a dancer, without all the BAD stuff. I just wish that if she was going to be doing dances, they'd make her a DANCER and have her pay house & tipout and follow all the rules and do stages.

    I had two customers Saturday that told me they'd get dances from me after I got done with my stage, and when I got done, they were back in the back with HER! GRRRRRRR!!!
    The bartenders and waitresses at my club also give dances. I hate it. I can't tell you how many frustrating situations I have been in such as yourself.
    The ones I edited out of your quote above are the ones that bother me the most....
    In regards to number 2.....I totally agree. They get a damned paycheck for god's sake. I mean they aren't much but there have been times I could really use a good 150$-200$ for groceries or something after a bad week. Also, they get to keep all the money they make off of LD's.
    In regards to number 3....In my opinion, choose. Be a bartender/waitress or be a stripper. Either you have the guts to be on stage and do the whole 9 yards or not. But, when they are given the choice....I guess that is a mute point.
    In regards to losing out to waitresses for dances or champagne room, ughh I could scream. I can't tell you how many times I have been working a guy, had him by the balls, then had to go on stage....come back and the girl who was taking the drink orders has him in the back. What's worse is when I have been hanging with the guy for a while on the floor, giving dances and drinking with him, and we've had the same waitress who has been hanging out too, doing shots and whatnot.....then she swoops him up and takes him to the back the first chance she gets.
    Sucks to be making my way back to the table all happy cause I thought I was going to the champagne room all to discover our waitress took him back there.

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    I worked at one club where they allowed ths and it PISSED ME OFF. 1)because they dont have to pay the fees and tip outs we do and 2) because guys always want what they cant have..so getting the bartender or waitress to dance for them is a thrill..even if shes a troll

    I'M not allowed to sell drinks or anything...so why should they get to do MY job?? Pik ONE..dancer or staff...NOT both

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    You have every right to be pissed off, as well as every other dancer in your club. You're either a stripper and pay all the normal fees, or you're a waitress/bartender - BUT NOT BOTH. It is completely and utterly unfair to have barstaff competing with the strippers for private dances when we PAY to be there and they don't. Furthermore the customers ALWAYS want the "unattainable" bartender or waitress and will often pay more for dances with them - it is simply unfair competition. We have enough competition without adding barstaff-strippers into the mix

    I would rally the other girls to have a bitchfest about that, and get this dipshit manager to put a stop to it. It's bullshit.

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    ^^^ Yup. There's a really hot waitress at my club on the weekends and this customer has offered her $500 for a lapdance (and yes, he's serious). She won't do it, thankfully. He even offered her $1000 to get onstage and do a set but she still won't. I joked pointedly that I must be undercharging and he just shrugged. Fucker won't tip the dancers more than $5 onstage, of course, because we're not the Almighty Unattainable Waitress. If she were actually doing $500 lapdances I'd throw a bitch fit.

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    I've been dancing at my club for almost a year now but I bartend on weekends. I NEVER hustle the guys while I'm bartending. I tell them it's not fair to the dancers. The only time I will is when on my regular customers comes in and it's slow. I also tipout whenever this happens.

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    Not cool. I only experienced that BS once. I was not amused. I quit working at that club (for that and several other reasons) since they had their priorities so screwed up.
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    what if they paid a house fee and tipped out generously ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sauske View Post
    what if they paid a house fee and tipped out generously ?
    Nope, still no good. If they want to give dances they can be strippers. It's silly.
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    At my old club, one or two nights a week a dancer worked the bar, and if they wanted to they could dance while bartending; they wore their dancer clothes, were on the stage rotation and had to pay a house fee. If it was a really bad night and they got no dances I don't think they had to pay a house fee. That situation never bothered me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sauske View Post
    what if they paid a house fee and tipped out generously ?
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    Nope, still no good. If they want to give dances they can be strippers. It's silly.
    Exactly. It's UNFAIR COMPETITION. Everybody knows customers want the "unattainable" waitress or bartender and that they'll ignore the strippers if they can get the bargirl, so the stripping bargirls are creating an unfair advantage over the rest of us, and essentially taking money out of the dancers' pockets. Either put on the 7" platforms, pay the fees and get your ass up on stage like the rest of us, or keep your damn clothes on!

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    A waitress at one of the clubs I travel to got paid $250 for one lap dance plus a $50 dollar tip. It was definitely a case of a guy wanting the unattainable, but she was probably the hottest girl by a long shot there with natural DD.

    We all pitched a fucking fit and a week later guess who was a dancer charing $20 like the rest of us? Luckily, she didn't do that well in earnings (she was the most ridiculously bad dancer ever, like worthy of a youtube video) and looked better with clothes on even though she was thin, exotic and busty. She quit a month later I heard.

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    #1) I wanna know what bartender was doing that
    #2) That's how I first started dancing. I was a waitress/shot girl and I got 'bought off the floor' to go dance in VIP or the Champagne room. I had to pay for it. It was $100 to the bar just for me to be allowed to dance, then I had to charge for myself.. at the time, most of the dancers were supportive, but they had been trying to 'flip me' for awhile.

    But if you're not working and talking to every guy, and a bartender does, that's not her fault you didn't get that dance. I know it's irritating, and a little unfair, but if you're hustling as hard as you claim, you'd be too busy doing dances to notice her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PrettyCurlieQ View Post
    #1) I wanna know what bartender was doing that
    #2) That's how I first started dancing. I was a waitress/shot girl and I got 'bought off the floor' to go dance in VIP or the Champagne room. I had to pay for it. It was $100 to the bar just for me to be allowed to dance, then I had to charge for myself.. at the time, most of the dancers were supportive, but they had been trying to 'flip me' for awhile.

    But if you're not working and talking to every guy, and a bartender does, that's not her fault you didn't get that dance. I know it's irritating, and a little unfair, but if you're hustling as hard as you claim, you'd be too busy doing dances to notice her.

    Well if they're all lined up to dance with the bartender, who's she going to hustle??

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    I know, the bartender just adds more competition, which is definitely frustrating. But, couldn't that competiton just add fuel to her fire? Either way, if the bartender is doing her job, I don't see how she has time to do more dances than the entertainers. That doesn't even make sense. Who knows?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cameron_keys View Post
    I worked at one club where they allowed ths and it PISSED ME OFF. 1)because they dont have to pay the fees and tip outs we do and 2) because guys always want what they cant have..so getting the bartender or waitress to dance for them is a thrill..even if shes a troll

    I'M not allowed to sell drinks or anything...so why should they get to do MY job?? Pik ONE..dancer or staff...NOT both

    I'm 100% in agreement with Cameron. Given the choice I would refuse to work at a club that allowed non dancers to be giving dances. I'm also actually pretty suprised that so many clubs seem to allow it.

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    I waitressed here in ABQ in 2004, and there was this guy that came in every week who wanted me to dance for him, I totally didn't want to, but one day I gave in, the mgr told me to charge $100, and I did. Dancers were SOOOOOOOO pissed. I didn't even understand what the big deal was at first, but now I see it. They made me pay a full house fee on it too tho, which is $35 here.

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