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    Default Can I deduct my housefees without receipts?

    Hiya all,

    I'm from Uk and currently have a slight technical problem with my club because they don't give us receipts for our housefees. I remember one girl asking for one but my ex-manager refused to give it to her (tried to make up he didn't understand what she wanted... she wasn't British but she did speak OK English AND must have been declaring her taxes) and therefore I never ask for them myself.

    The club gives invoices us for our vouchers so if anyone wants to pick up their money from the week before they need to write down their name,etc,on it and they leave it with themselves.

    Therefore, as it stands, I don't have any invoices as they don't give us copies AND I don't have any receipts with regards to my payouts.

    I have put money into my bank quite sporadically (as my bank is not very close to where I live), therefore I can't work out precisely how much money I was paid in this financial year. I think the club will allow me to take copies of the invoices or at least let me put down the numbers, however I'm not sure they would give me receipts for my payouts.

    Can I deduct the housefee in my tax return if all people KNOW we pay them and what the amount is, even though I don't have the receipts ?
    They should keep a log book with number of shifts each girl work during a wk so it shoudln't be difficult to find more details about this.

    I know that lots of people here in Uk don't tax their money at all so they don't bother with any receipts, however I do want to declare what I made so would appreciate any comments.

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    Syd

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    Default Re: Can I deduct my housefees without receipts?

    Thanks for the input,

    I've got another question then - do I understand it right, that the easiest way would be to declare what's in my bank account as long as that amount is the same/higher as sum of all the invoices I've signed with the club ?

    My only worry with that is that if the club gets investigated and they'll see the envoices that I've signed yet didn't include the invoices themselves in my accounts (what I'm trying to say is that I'd of course included the amount as my declared income, however I wouldn't bother enclosing both the invoices and the receipts of my housefees into my accounts), I'd get into problems with not keeping my records properly ... ?

    I don't know many people who declare their money so it's hard to get some proper info from other dancers around me. I know of a few who just sum up the money they put into their bank account and that's their declared income..
    I just cannot understand how can you account for things if you don't include any papers... but some accountants seem to do it somehow.

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    Default Re: Can I deduct my housefees without receipts?

    ^^^ that's probably the safest approach. I don't know if it works the same way in other countries, but in the USA you also have to deal with the issue of paying 'mandatory' tipouts to DJ's, bouncers, waitstaff etc. If these people are independent contractors as well, US tax law then requires that the dancer wishing to claim these 'mandatory' tipouts to DJ's, bouncers, waitstaff etc as a business expense fill out and send in a 1099-misc form ... which must list the names, addresses and social security numbers of the DJ, bouncer, waitress etc. ... if you have paid them more than $600 over the course of the entire year (which is almost guaranteed to be the case if you work regularly in the same club).

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    Default Re: Can I deduct my housefees without receipts?

    Hi Melonie,

    that's exactly what I thought... I'm not concerned about the tips to the staff as in UK it's not as high payout as in US and it's not compulsory hence the amount I've tipped is very low compared to what my counterparts in US have probably paid.

    However I do pay around £70 a shift to work in the club and although cash is not included in the invoices I sign with my club, all money from vouchers and VIP is on the paper and on lots of occassions that amount is the only money I made that night. Therefore, deducting the £70 would be beneficial to me because over the course of 3 days (e.g.) that becomes £210 and that's quite a lot.

    To be honest, I'm suspicious that the problem is that the clubs pay hardly any taxes for the housefees but deduct all the voucher's money they paid out... thus effectively get lots of £££ tax free (untill, of course, a tax man catches upon this).
    I don't know it for sure but it wouldn't suprise me at all.

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