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    BrunetteGoddess
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    R and I are curious about Australia.....

    What does it take to be able to move to Australia from, say the US, and to live there?

    Are there only certain circumstances that allow people to relocate permanently to the country, or could you just decide to move there with the plans to find a job and go to school once you get there?

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    Im not sure how it is for Americans, Im from England, came out in the 80s and my mum grew up in Australia so it was easy. Lysondra will probably have more info though (-:

    Heres the government webpage about it.

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    Thanks.

    The idea was that if we were to get to Australia, I'd have my prerequisites for nursing and doing a nursing degree if possible, while R would find some kind of job.

    This is all pretty much random thoughts, but any info is appreciated.

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    I'm not too clear on moving to Australia to live, but there is a fairly recent working visa agreement between Australia and the States if you'd like to move here for 12 months and see if you like it

    The Australian working holiday visa (Subclass 417) provides a young person aged between 18 and 31 years of age the opportunity to travel around Australia for up to 12 months you can find incidental employment of up to 6 months per employer to supplement your stay. You may also undertake study or training for up to four months using your working holiday visa.

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    That doesn't help my husband thought...he's 38.

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    Oops, sorry

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    No, you can't just pick up and go. Their immigration is very strictly enforced. However, they do really want medical people, so if you're a nurse you should be able to move there with no problem, especially if you're willing to move to the country or a smaller city.

    Getting residency takes a lot of money and time. The older you are, the harder it is, but if you move there as a nurse they'd probably take R as your spouse. Or he can try to find a job and an employer to sponsor him so he can move there, and bring you along as the spouse. Go through the DIMIA website, there's a lot of info on there!

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    ^^^Yes my best friend from the UK just moved here, shes a midwife and there is tons of work everywhere. There should be a list on the link I provided of which industries are screaming out for workers or professions were short of. Your husband is still under 45 which is generally the cut off point for immigration. However Ive heard that the age has been raised in some fields where they are desperate for workers or various types of professions.
    Good luck!

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    Hmmm, well I read that to work as a nurse down there it says you must be assessed by associations in Australia. But must I be educated in Australia to work there? Or can I be educated and get my degree in the US first?

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    You can get your degree in the USA first and then go through assessment through an Australian accreditation society. But as a former holder of an Australian student visa, I can attest that permanent residency is a LOT easier to get if you were educated in Australia.

    If you go on a student visa, R can come with you as a dependent on your visa. He can apply for work rights when you get there and work with no limitations, or at least that's how my ex did it. But they don't like to hire Americans, especially Americans on a temporary visa, so he could have trouble finding a stable job. Even Burger King wouldn't hire my ex. He eventually landed a fun job at a theme park but it was a kid's job, not a career position.

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    Why is it much easier to be educated in Australia? What does that have to do with residency? Curious, not being rude.

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    Residency is easier to get once you're already in the country, and it's easier to get in the country on a student visa. And they don't accept everyone who qualifies, so whatever you can do to demonstrate that you already have established contacts and roots in Australia will make you look better to the people who get to decide whether you can stay or not.

    When I finished my program, I wanted to stay, but my then-husband wanted me to go back to the States. I REALLY wanted to stay in Australia. I came back to the States because my husband told me if it didn't work out, I could always just go back to Australia. Found out after I returned that it wasn't the case at all, I'm really stuck here unless I go to nursing school or something.

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    Established roots and contacts? What does that mean? How would you get those if you had none?

    Sorry for all the questions, I'm really grateful!

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    You know... if you've earned a degree in Australia, spent those years studying their way of doing things, making Australian business contacts, lived in an Australian community, etc. then you're going to look better than Jane American who's never been across the Pacific.

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    Damn, well, that's good to know. Thanks for giving me info to get started with. R is furiously researching as we speak

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    Good luck. It's the greatest country in the world!

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    It does seem awesome. Especially for me wanting to be a nurse and for raising a family.

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    Okay, you're a nurse? Yay, that'll help you but I don't know how it'll help your husband. Right now there's a visa for 'needed careers'. Interestingly, hair stylist and baker are on this list. If you have one of these needed careers you can become a resident of Australia fairly quickly. And yes, you would probably need to get your nursing assessed for Australian standards and then be allowed to work as a nurse. Luckily you get two three-month visas in a row (then you have to leave but can come back for 2 more 3-month visas) as visitor visas which you can use to search your career options with immigration.

    I would suggest going on a visitors visa, finding the stuff you need and seeing if you can get a student visa if you need more schooling for your nursing. While on the student visa, I believe your partner would be allowed to live with you. Your partner actually makes this much harder, as he is a bit older. I don't think he can work while he's here and you're in school since he can't get a Working Visitors Visa. HOWEVER - if you can prove that you're struggling a bit but would be a very good influence on society were he allowed to work (just say he needs to work while you go to school so you can be a nurse, it should be fine) - they'll put a working CLAUSE on his visa. I have one. It's a little orange slip that allows me to work on the visa I have. That's the only way around that I can think of.

    Now from the point of APPLYING for a permanant stay visa, you get temporary residency exactly one year after the application is filed. (October 6th...October 6th...for me) Two years after that, you get citizenship.

    I suggest calling DIMIA at some point and asking hem. They are only there to help and won't hold it against you if you ask a lot of questions. www.immi.gov.au is their site.


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    Not a nurse yet, I want to start school soon, but I have a lot of prereqs to get done first.

    R wants to know why he couldn't get a working visitor's visa because of his age?

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    Then I'd suggest going to school in Australia under a student visa (school here is cheaper anyway)... live with me for $90 rent a week (hehheh)... and then once you're a nurse you'll probably already have temporary residency and if you don't, immigration will masturbate over the idea of you staying because of your career.


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    LOL, masturbate over my career. Awwwesome

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lysondra
    I don't think he can work while he's here and you're in school since he can't get a Working Visitors Visa.
    Yes, he can work! He can't get a Working Visitor's Visa, but if she gets a student visa then he can come along as a dependent on her visa. So even though he's not a student, he will still hold a student visa. She won't be able to work more than 20 hours a week during semesters, but he can work as much as he wants to once he gets work rights. That's what my ex did. He didn't want to just sit on his ass for two years so soon after we arrived in Australia, we took a day trip to the DIMIA office in Brisbane and got work rights on our visas; it only took an hour or two for both of us. My ex worked full time once he found a job.

    Oh, and you DON'T want to give them the impression that you need him to work. They won't give you a student visa unless you prove that you can support yourselves and you run no risk of becoming a burden on the system. We went to Australia with $20,000 (US) in savings, health insurance paid for, and over $75,000 in available credit with no debt.

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    AH yes, you're right on the student part. In order for me to work I had to prove I needed to work to better my life, but I was on a bridging visa. And not working while in a country for two years? Kinda sucked.

    Listen to Yek. She came here as a student. I came here as a defacto.

    And yes, you'll only be allowed to work 20 hours a week.


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    You could check to see if the US has specific Nursing agencies which will find you work or study in Australia. I know Britain has them at least for work as my friend and a bunch of her friends came out to Australia and NZ this way. Ive also met several nurses who see to be travelling Australia via agency work too.

    Australia used to only issues working visas to those 25 and under. Im not sure if its still the same though.

    Quote Originally Posted by BrunetteGoddess View Post
    Not a nurse yet, I want to start school soon, but I have a lot of prereqs to get done first.

    R wants to know why he couldn't get a working visitor's visa because of his age?

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    How is one supposed to be able to support one's self with only 20 hours of work a week and NOT rely on their spouse for income? As a student?

    I don't get it. Since when are students 'financially stable' enough to not potentially burden the system????

    I just don't buy the fact that no student in their system has this potential and are all financially stable.

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