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    ^ I am so seriously being sarcastic. I couldn't imagine myself OR my namesake being spent there in any definition.
    Ahhh..I missed that one! I was going to say...Body Shop hasnt been visited by anyone in your denomination in a very long time. Unless its for ummm.."services rendered". LOL.

    You have however, also been neglecting my club. Come on,....I'm not there very often...you could at least visit me when I do show up a bit more.

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    ^^^^It wouldn't suprise me if you could also say that about Vegas Cab.At least that was a place I was.......uh.......propositioned.And that was around 8 years ago.That made ME feel dirty.I finishsed my beer and never went back.I'm not sure if it was the proposition itself or the way it was done that made me feel sleezy.It's not what I went for,so I never asked and it was the only time a girl come rite out and offered.I've heard stories about new Solid Gold,I've heard stories about Goldfinger but I don't about either for fact.Altho considering the area and the comp it wouldn't surpsie me if it was def there too.I can say from the reviews I read last week if a guy was at a club that didn't offer at least very highmilage dances it was considered a minus and basically put up as a warning to other guys not to go.That seemed to be the basis of a bad review.They wanted a club full of model looking girls all offering "more" and if they couldn't find it they didn't like the club.I take reviews with a grain of salt and haven't been to a club in 3 years which is why I wanted a dancers perspective.So thank you Cameron I def got that.

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    Ha...Vegas Cab is the first club I ever worked at. And back then, there were girls who offered extras, but it was discreet and not widely made known...I'm surprised you were propositioned so boldly 8 years ago!

    Now its common and expected. If all you offer for their money is dancing...they arent interested many times. Guys come to the clubs EXPECTING some kind of sex(fingering at LEAST...right up to any sex act you can imagine...and a few I hadnt even though of until asked for it)

    Oddly enough...the club I work at now(when I dance, which isnt often anymore) is owned by the same people(VC is our sister club..and where a lot of girls are sent who dont make the grade at the new club). This one is the best I"ve seen in years...there are still plenty of "extras"..dont get me wrong. But the girls and customers arent quite as out in the open about it. And the bouncers WILL take care of you if a guy gets out of hand, which is more then I can say about a LOT of clubs here where the bouncers have watched guys hit, punch and pretty much rape girls and turned a blind eye because the guy spent a cpl bucks.

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    Yeah it was about 8 years ago.A girl asked if I waned a lapdance,whom I have to say I thought was extremely hot so I took it.I don't know if it's still like this but back then the lapdances were in booths.Anyway the sec after she closed the door she sat on top of me put her hand down my pants,grabbed a hold and asked how much money I was looking to spend.I said in here? She said no we'll go to another room.I said no thanks I'll just take the dance and she basically had a suit yourself or your loss attitude after that.she gave me the dance but it was very obvious she lost interest.This may sound stupid but she almost made me feel like a tool b/c I didn't want more than just a dance.That's what I meant by I'm not sure if it was the offer or the way it was done that made me feel sleezy/dirty.

    Maybe I'm wrong but I'd think the girls who do that would be able to tell which guys are looking for that and which guys aren't.Then again maybe it's the club.Maybe since I was in that club they figured that's what I was looking for.I don't know.I briefly worked as a DJ(not in Flo).I've been friends with other DJ's,bartenders,and dancers OTC.So I never considered myself naive to stripclubs but I did after that
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    ^^ no...it prob wasnt you. A lot of girls do that to everyone as their hustle. They figure more guys will say yes then no and they'll get a few more bucks off him. And nowadays, guys have pretty much been trained to expect that.

    This is why the good customers have stopped coming to clubs here in droves. They dont want to be made to feel like sleazy johns.

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    I'm not going 2 re-address a statement made here about dancers can't make money clean in So Fl when I know of plenty who do (not up for debate) and I'm not definately not going 2 agrue it w/ a crazy person who claims to be the Extreme Know it All Super Power that can tell me what every and any dancer in So Fl does in the rooms baised on what she makes. I don't think God's Messager, Santa Claus, or the IRS has that kind of say so why would another dancer nomatter how much experience she has.

    She can only speak from her experience as I speak from what is true about mine and I'm not having a peeing contest over who's reality is closer to the truth. However I do speak for my experience from the 1st person and I don't claim to be the all mighty when it comes to the truth about the lives of others as I was taught that wasn't my place to.

    All I will say to that person is don't call me Babe and don't assume anything about me or others you don't know becuz more then likely when you are blinded by your own preconceptions of others you lose out on getting to see people for who they really are and learning from them.

    As for age I was never comparing 18-20yrs to 30-40s or anything like that(sorry if it came across that way), but I was talking about dancers who pasted thier prime. What age that is for each dancer is different even though I'll stand behind saying stripping is a carreer where a dancers prime is limited as many others are. Every dancer hits a time when it's thier prime and then after it's nolonger thier prime anymore was all I was saying. I haven't hit my prime yet however I have been making more with experience and age as many dancers do.

    I agree that age has nothing to do with how much some1 makes/ what thier peak and prime also varies from dancer to dance and heck some might hit a few ups and lows over the years depending on many other factors. I've known girls of all types, experience levels, and ages that have made good money dancing many of which live here in So Fl.
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    Yeah I'm sure she felt she was wasting her time on me and that she could have made more money off another dude who wouldn't have said no.Maybe she did think I was a tool b/c I sad no.And there are prob some guys who would think that too but who cares?
    If that's really what wanted I'd either go to a diff type of bar and try and pick up a girl there or I'd order an escort in the privacy of my own home but I certainly wouldn't go to a stripclub.And not for nothing but I don't pay for sex like that anyway.Persoanlly if I can't get it w/o paying for it I don't deserve it anyway and need to reevaluate my life.No offense meant to anybody on that guy or girl

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    I DO know these people. This isnt based on what I make...its based on what everyone makes and what I see every day. Call me any nasty immature name you want....I know what is true here. And whats true here is that the hookers outnumber the clean dancers 100 to 1 and thats the truth.
    Maybe our definitions of "clean dancer" and "good money" are differant. Maybe you just have blinders on. I dont know which. But I know damn well what happens in the clubs here and to what percentage...you do the math
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    Quote Originally Posted by cameron_keys View Post
    Maybe our definitions of "clean dancer" and "good money" are differant.
    I don't know the age of the other girl and I don't mean to offend anyone but couldn't that have some thing to do with age or the era someone either started working at and/or going to clubs?

    The nite I was feeling nastaglic I also looked up the club I worked at up north and the cub my roomate worked at.I know for a fact back then there were no extras going on in either club AT ALL.Most of the girls wouldn't even let the guys touch them let alone anything else.Now I haven't been to either club in 10 years so I don't know this first hand but at least according to what I read the club my roomate worked at is now known as an extras club.
    I remember going to a few clubs in NYC and guys had to literally put their hands either behind the chair,behind their back,or whereever to make sure there was no touching.If a guy touched a girl he got escorted out and not politely if you know wha I'm saying.He maye have slipped a few times on the bouncers fists a few times as he was leaving.But again that was 10 years ago.Maybe it was the way things were back then or maybe it was just the types of clubs I went to. From what I could tell extras are very prevelent in those clubs now too.
    To quote the great Bob Dylan the times they are a changin' but in this case they've already changed.I remember a very diff time for stripclubs,a time Cameron prob or should I say mite remember too.A time someone under say 25 mite not know.To me that's still how you should act in a club but that's b/c that's what they were like when I started going.All I'm trying to say is that clean dancing could be diff things to different people based on what the clubs were like when that person either started going to or working at

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    Quote Originally Posted by cameron_keys View Post
    I know what is true here. And whats true here is that the hookers outnumber the clean dancers 100 to 1 and thats the truth.
    I don't think the ratio is quite as high in Tampa, but I'd say a 10:1 or 20:1 wouldn't be out of the question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cameron_keys View Post
    I DO know these people. This isnt based on what I make...its based on what everyone makes and what I see every day. Call me any nasty immature name you want....I know what is true here. And whats true here is that the hookers outnumber the clean dancers 100 to 1 and thats the truth.
    Maybe our definitions of "clean dancer" and "good money" are differant. Maybe you just have blinders on. I dont know which. But I know damn well what happens in the clubs here and to what percentage...you do the math
    Wow 100 to 1. Thats a lot. I have thought the percentages of bad girls was more like 20-30%. I know its more than 10% and figured it was less than 50%.


    if I have counted correctly, that's 5 out of 11 (45%). I figure that I attract a slightly higher percentage of dirty girls. They think I'm an easy mark, so I figure the percentage is probably smaller in reality.

    My personal experience doesn't put the number as high as 99 out of 100, but then again, I don't work in the industry and see things everyday.

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    Wow 100 to 1. Thats a lot. I have thought the percentages of bad girls was more like 20-30%. I know its more than 10% and figured it was less than 50%.


    if I have counted correctly, that's 5 out of 11 (45%). I figure that I attract a slightly higher percentage of dirty girls. They think I'm an easy mark, so I figure the percentage is probably smaller in reality.

    My personal experience doesn't put the number as high as 99 out of 100, but then again, I don't work in the industry and see things everyday.

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    Yep. I've worked in a LOT of clubs where me and maybe one or two other girls were the ONLY ones not giving out extras of some kind. Sometimes I was THE only one. I've worked in a LOT of clubs here where management came right out and told you "do whatever it takes to make your money..we dont care". I worked at one club where the manager hated dealing with all the hookers, but was specifically told by the owner "you see NOTHING".

    Go into any club in Dade and Broward, close your eyes and throw a quarter....chances are better then not that you'll hit a hooker. And anyone who doesnt think so is SERIOUSLY deluded. I've seen it every day for the last 8 years with my own eyes in every club. It's why dancing sucks out your soul here.

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    Yep. I've worked in a LOT of clubs where me and maybe one or two other girls were the ONLY ones not giving out extras of some kind. Sometimes I was THE only one. I've worked in a LOT of clubs here where management came right out and told you "do whatever it takes to make your money..we dont care". I worked at one club where the manager hated dealing with all the hookers, but was specifically told by the owner "you see NOTHING".

    Go into any club in Dade and Broward, close your eyes and throw a quarter....chances are better then not that you'll hit a hooker. And anyone who doesnt think so is SERIOUSLY deluded. I've seen it every day for the last 8 years with my own eyes in every club. It's why dancing sucks out your soul here.
    Ouch. I guess I know now why there were so many eastern european girls at the club we went to. Next time, if there is a next time, I'll get my buddy to go to the smaller clubs.

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    Ouch. I guess I know now why there were so many eastern european girls at the club we went to. Next time, if there is a next time, I'll get my buddy to go to the smaller clubs.

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    That has little to do with it. There is a huge Eastern European population in South FL period. It isnt just those girls who are hookers....has nothing to do with ethnicity. ANd the smaller clubs are usually just as bad...whatever you do next time...just pick the club you want and decide beforehand if you want anything extra. If you dont...dont go back with the girls who proposition you. Say no. It isnt hard...there are still a few of us here that are clean...

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    Yep. I've worked in a LOT of clubs where me and maybe one or two other girls were the ONLY ones not giving out extras of some kind. Sometimes I was THE only one. I've worked in a LOT of clubs here where management came right out and told you "do whatever it takes to make your money..we dont care". I worked at one club where the manager hated dealing with all the hookers, but was specifically told by the owner "you see NOTHING".

    Go into any club in Dade and Broward, close your eyes and throw a quarter....chances are better then not that you'll hit a hooker. And anyone who doesnt think so is SERIOUSLY deluded. I've seen it every day for the last 8 years with my own eyes in every club. It's why dancing sucks out your soul here.
    i've noticed that when you work in places/cities like that... you start to feel like a bike salesman at a car lot (bad analogy i know).

    you're trying to sell entertainment and customers seem confused. like why on earth would anyone spend money on THAT. what about blow jobs, hand jobs, sex???

    they look at you like you must not "get it" and/or feel like you're trying to "cheat them" by not offering those things.

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    i've noticed that when you work in places/cities like that... you start to feel like a bike salesman at a car lot (bad analogy i know).

    you're trying to sell entertainment and customers seem confused. like why on earth would anyone spend money on THAT. what about blow jobs, hand jobs, sex???

    they look at you like you must not "get it" and/or feel like you're trying to "cheat them" by not offering those things.
    Thats a great analogy!! Bike salesman..I love it!! Yeah,,,I've had a million guys look at me like I'm on crack when they ask "what do I get for my $20" and I tell them " a dance". Like...seriously...thats ALL? THATS not worth it.....SHE'LL(pointing at random girl) will give me a BJ for that much.

    Sadly yes, she will.

    Scary thing is I"ve worked with SO many girls who had all kinds of STD's and still thought nothing of doing whatever...one girl I used to work with thought it was FUNNY that she'd let guys fuck her and cum inside her in the CR....but she didnt tell them she was HIV+. And she didnt believe me when I said that she could go to jail for attempted murder for that(they JUST put a club promoter awaay for it) even withOUT the prostitution part.
    I didnt even really feel bad for the guys...I mean..they are the dumbasses that fucked a hooker bareback in the back room of a strip club....but I did feel bad for their wives,girfriends, kids, etc...who didnt have a choice in that ....

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    That has little to do with it. There is a huge Eastern European population in South FL period. It isnt just those girls who are hookers....has nothing to do with ethnicity. ANd the smaller clubs are usually just as bad...whatever you do next time...just pick the club you want and decide beforehand if you want anything extra. If you dont...dont go back with the girls who proposition you. Say no. It isnt hard...there are still a few of us here that are clean...
    I think I'll start posting asking about areas in general.

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    I don't think the ratio is quite as high in Tampa, but I'd say a 10:1 or 20:1 wouldn't be out of the question.
    I've never worked in Tampa, so I couldnt say. I've heard tales...but the few times I've been in a club there it didnt seem quite as bad as it is here on the East Coast. Of course..as a customer, you dont always see whats really going on so it could have been a lot worse then I saw..but I couldnt tell you with any authority about the clubs there.

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    I don't think the ratio is quite as high in Tampa, but I'd say a 10:1 or 20:1 wouldn't be out of the question.
    i'd say it's higher than that. maybe not as high as south florida, but higher than that.

    if you took all the dancers in all the clubs in the tampa area.. i'd say the ratio is probably more like 50:1

    since, you have clubs where maybe 1 out of 100 girls isn't doing extras.. and then you have a COUPLE clubs where "only"1 in say every 20 or so girls IS doing extras.

    but, i can name you at least 6 clubs in the area, off the top of my head, where you are almost 100% guaranteed to be offered some sort of sex from the first girl you talk to.

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    Thats a great analogy!! Bike salesman..I love it!! Yeah,,,I've had a million guys look at me like I'm on crack when they ask "what do I get for my $20" and I tell them " a dance". Like...seriously...thats ALL? THATS not worth it.....SHE'LL(pointing at random girl) will give me a BJ for that much.

    Sadly yes, she will.

    Scary thing is I"ve worked with SO many girls who had all kinds of STD's and still thought nothing of doing whatever...one girl I used to work with thought it was FUNNY that she'd let guys fuck her and cum inside her in the CR....but she didnt tell them she was HIV+. And she didnt believe me when I said that she could go to jail for attempted murder for that(they JUST put a club promoter awaay for it) even withOUT the prostitution part.
    I didnt even really feel bad for the guys...I mean..they are the dumbasses that fucked a hooker bareback in the back room of a strip club....but I did feel bad for their wives,girfriends, kids, etc...who didnt have a choice in that ....
    uhhggg.... BJs for 20 bucks.

    that's what really surprised me when i started dancing, especially when i worked at extras ridden clubs. the AMOUNTS guys would offer for sex. the amounts that were commonly accepted amongst extras girls. i'm talking 10 for a HJ, 20 for a BJ, 50 for FS, etc.

    at least where i work now i get offered 500 to thousands for sex. lol ... not that i take them up on it ... but at least the price is a little more respectable.

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    uhhggg.... BJs for 20 bucks.

    that's what really surprised me when i started dancing, especially when i worked at extras ridden clubs. the AMOUNTS guys would offer for sex. the amounts that were commonly accepted amongst extras girls. i'm talking 10 for a HJ, 20 for a BJ, 50 for FS, etc.

    at least where i work now i get offered 500 to thousands for sex. lol ... not that i take them up on it ... but at least the price is a little more respectable.
    I know!! Girls..if you are going to be a whore..at least dont be a CHEAP whore!!

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    I know!! Girls..if you are going to be a whore..at least dont be a CHEAP whore!!
    for real. i'm pretty sure most of them are addicts. i mean, if you're very attractive and have decided to become a prostitute.. why not be an upscale escort? that's what i would do. the only reason i can see for not doing so is a hardcore addiction where you're blowing money (no pun intended) like *snaps fingers* and need quick cash all the time.

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    Wow only 20 bucks? I figured it would be more like 50 for a HJ and 100 a BJ.You can get a BJ on the street of NYC for about 10 bucks.Of course it's from a chick with like 3 teeth. Maybe I've been missing the boat.

    Seriously I remember about 4 years ago going to check out a new club across the street from me.......well a new club with an old name.Anyone from the area will prob know what club I'm talking about.I was talking to the bartender and I don't know how but somehow it came up that she had just moved from NY and used to work/dance at Flashdancers.Which I found ironic b/c whenever I went NYC if I went to a club that was usually the club I went to.I asked her why she's working as a bartender instead of dancing.She said she tried it but she couldn't take it and her reason was pretty much what we're talking about here.And she wasn't even talking about extras (which I didn't mean for this to become an extras thread but I guess when talking about S. Flo) she was talking about all the grabbing and groping.Which I thought was really ashame. Here was this insanely hot,petite blonde in her low mid 20's who b/c of all the BS she wouldn't dance.Which is what she preferred and te guys were missing out.That leads me to the question who's fault is it? The girls who do it or the guys who expect it? Or it that kind of like asking what came first the chicken or the egg.

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    .That leads me to the question who's fault is it? The girls who do it or the guys who expect it? Or it that kind of like asking what came first the chicken or the egg.
    Its a bit of the chicken/egg. Here...I can pinpoint the problem as starting about 6 months after 9/11. Clubs here started importing foreign girls who were hookers. They were brought here specifically for that purpose,to pump up a dying industry after the economy crashed. Then the local girls "stepped up their game" so to speak to compete and eventually the guys expected it. Now its the norm

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