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    Default Family called me stupid - rant, sorry.

    I know everyone has disagreeing views about politics - I'm okay with that. I'm a tolerant person for the most part. But I cannot tolerate ignorance. I spent tonight with my family, which is stressul enough as it is. But the subject o politics and the elections came up. I'm voting for Obama but I wasn't going to say anything because they are all Wooo Hilary! She has a vagina lets vote for her! Don't get me wrong I'm proud that a woman is running for President too. But that doesn't mean I'd base my vote on that fact. Anyway - they can vote or whoever theywant, thats the joy of America. But then they proceed to talk about Obama and how he's Muslim and doesn't beleive in God and won't acknowledge the American flag and blah blah. Mind you - none of them have watched a single debate between candidates, none of them have researched any of the candidates, none of them have even watched a single speech by any of the candidates. Their ignorance drives me insane. Besides the fact that Obama isn't even Muslim, and besides the fact that Muslims do beleive in God, and despite the fact that even if he was Muslim this country was based on religious freedom and the government as a result has nothing to do with religion, despite the fact that it isn't true that he won't acknowledge the American flag - they get all of their information from people gossiping at their jobs - mind you in one of the most racist cities I've ever had the displeasure of living in - and from stupid internet fwds about "Why America shouldn't have a Muslim for president." I'm so fucking tired of their intolerance, and their ignorance, and the fact that while I am all for them voting for whoever they feel will be the most succesful President - I just wish they would make an effort to actually LEARN something about the candidates before they make their decision. I want to learn more too so I asked them about which policies Hilary had presented that they felt made her a strong candidate and they said "we don't want to talk politics anymore"....they didn't know shit. Their version of how to choose who to support is "One is really old, one is a woman, and one is Muslim." And picked their favorite category. DUH. Just because someone is old doesn't make them less qualified, if anything it makes them more, just because someone is the first woman to run doesn't mean she should win just because it would be an awesome milestone, and the last one is an outspread of misinformation about Obama's parent's history. Sorry for ranting, it just pisses me off that this stubborn group of prejudice people that calls itself my family wouldn't shut up about how stupid I was for choosing to vote for Obama. Yeah I might not be the smartest person in the world but who gives them the right to call me stupid? They might disagree with my choice, but at least I fucking educated myself about the candidates and have watched just about every speech, every debate, have researched the candidates backgrounds before I made my decision. Yet I'm the stupid one. Okay. End rant, sorry about it guys I'm just all fired up because I'm sick that this is another example of the ignorance I was brought up with, and I'm hurt that they called me stupid. I hate to be called stupid.

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    Default Re: Family called me stupid - rant, sorry.

    Bear in mind that this post was not made in sobriety.

    Your family is stoopid! It is they who have the faces of stupidheads. pssshhh Obama is not Muslim and they would know that if they've read anything about the eleection at all, so again I say psssssh on them and you are not of the stoopid, Pookygirl! Obama all the way! Tinis for all! free the seals or something.


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    Pookie, don't worry. Once our man, the stealthly, America-hating Muslim Obama, is voted into office, people like your ignorant and prejudiced family will be hustled off to re-education camps in the southwest administered by Islamic terrorists.

    There, they will learn valuable lessons, including the use of the paragraph.

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    ....yeah!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chicagoeditor View Post

    There, they will learn valuable lessons, including the use of the paragraph.
    Sorry, did you mean I should have used paragraphs? I know! I was just ranting and it came out that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SundayMorning View Post
    ....yeah!
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    Pooka, you're too cute for paragraphs! Your family is silly, and you're not stupid. The fact that you're putting thought and time into the election process is admirable. I salute you!

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    Besides all this - I live in a tiny city outside of Corpus Christi and of all places that Hilary woman felt the need to come rally up support and try to win back the hispanics by visiting a small town that is about 95 percent hispanic - and I was 45 minutes late to work because her blonde butt was blocking traffic all over the place! So there.

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    ^ hey now.. cant blame her for that! i got stuck in obama traffic last week when he was in baltimore!

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    I'm with you on this. I've hear such profound thoughts as "his name sounds like Osama so he must be a terrorist!". As well as the same internet fwds. "Oh he's a muslim and he's evil!" At least I know its just not ignorant people from Sanford now.


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    OMG I can totally relate to you, Pooka! Same exact scenario happened Wednesday night when I was at the club...only instead of the angering political discussion involving my family, it involved the know-it-all bouncer/doorguy. (Yes, this is the same doorguy that used to be my semi enemy, the one I threw a jug of Halloween candy at a few months ago LOL) I got into a political discussion with someone that is all pro-Hillary, whereas I'm torn between Hillary and Obama but I disagree with a few of Hillary's stances. And yes, he blatantly called me "stupid" and in front of the manager, too.

    This know-it-all bigot really pissed me off because he said insulting untrue things like, "You know, you go around talking all about supporting politics blah blah blah but I bet you've never even voted in your life." WTF? Okay suuuure I don't know anything about politics...that's why my congressman, who made national headlines ever since he entered office and is releasing his own book next month, knows me by first name ever since I worked on his campaign.

    Eventually our heated discussion of the issues led to us practically having a contest to see who was in worse poverty in the past, with both of us claiming to have been in a worse spot than the other. He complained about getting paid 12 cents per day to mop the floors in jail, etc etc etc and then he claimed that I know NOTHING about poverty, since my stories and explanations had holes in them. WTF?? I had been through shit approx. as bad as jail, but I didn't want to talk about it because it was too personal/embarrassing for me. But the real reason my stories had holes in them, was because I didn't want to admit the extent of my poverty, since I had been discriminated in the past for it and have a lot of shame about how I was. So basically I had the choice to expose my embarrassing past and look "stupid", or have holes in my stories and look "stupid" but in a different way. I was sooooo mad! Thankfully the manager let me storm away to the dressing room to smoke a cig and cool my heels.

    Please note: I don't mind discussing that I was poor in the past, but there's some aspects of my past that I do NOT like to talk about. And the discussion led to a point where I would have had to tell this bigot things I don't like to tell people that aren't my true friends. He probably would have disbelieved my stories anyway.

    Sometimes it is best to storm away if they are going to namecall you. Don't stay there and subject yourself to it. They do not deserve your respect and listening to them, if they are going to act that way. I was a little tiffed about my political argument with my coworker, but now that I see that someone in the exact same situation is angry about it, I feel a right to be angry at this guy for calling me "stupid," too.

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    Don't let ignorant people run your life. Not even your moods or emotions. They're not worth it, and you deserve to be led by your own good thoughts and feelings.

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    People argue about politics. Families sometimes say mean things when they argue. It's horrible at the time, but I'm sure by now - 10 and half hours later - you've forgotten all about it.
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    I argue with my parents about religion a lot, and some pseudo-political issues. Rational discourse quickly falls into "you *never* listen to me!" and "well, fine, you *always* take the hopeless view", as well as "you can't *know* that...you're not thinking about the bigger big picture". I think family arguments just bring up other issues, but it tends to dissolve quickly, doesn't it? The burner goes back down to simmering. You can't really change your family's mind, is what I've learned. But you can prod it with a stick.

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    Eh forget them, you are a smart woman honey.

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    I have learned to never, ever bring up politics or religion around my family, especially my extended family. It always ends in screaming matches, especially when alcohol is involved... and it's funny because the ones who do the most screaming are the most ignorant of them all.
    There were a lot of misperceptions about Obama when he first started making headlines, and stupidly, I believed a few of them. The lies against Obama being spread on the internet are rumored to have been started by supporters of the McCain campaign (not McCain himself, mind you, and that's just what I read in the local paper, so no one get mad at me for it). Now that I see they aren't true, I feel like an idiot and am doing my research more carefully now. There are so many lies out there it's tough to know what to believe.
    You know you aren't stupid. Just be confident in your opinions and be thankful you aren't as ignorant as your family.

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    I'm lucky that my whole family is liberal-to-moderate like me. We also have NPR on the radio all day every day, so we're well informed. I can discuss politics with them without too much trouble. I'm sorry that you don't have the same. My ex's dad is a hardcore right winger, and I almost had to bite off my tongue around him on a few occasions.

    I hear ya on ignorant, uninformed people. I nearly punched a customer last night when he referred to Obama as "a towelheaded sand-ni**er."
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    It sounds like your family is pretty ignorant on the topics at hand. Maybe try asking them what about Obama's policies they disapprove of. If they say it is because he is muslim, that is a stupid answer in and of itself.

    Just rest assured that you are making your decision based on facts and not hype.

    I think deciding to not vote for McCain because of his age is valid. What if he gets sick or dies while in office (even a minor stroke could really mess with his ability to lead)? Who will be his running mate? How qualified is the potential VP to take control of our nation?


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    PookaShell, your consideration of the candidates is more mature than most Americans. There are lots of 50-year-olds who don't put nearly the thought into the candidates as you have. I've never understood the rational of voting for a candidate based on a certain demographic like male, female, black, white, etc. I could care less about that stuff. I want to know who will run the country best.

    And do not let your family get to you like that--or any stupid person. Stupid people don't realize how stupid they are. In fact, the stupider they are the less they understand how stupid they are. There have even been studies about that. You can try to inform them, but don't be surprised if they don't change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paris View Post
    It sounds like your family is pretty ignorant on the topics at hand. Maybe try asking them what about Obama's policies they disapprove of. If they say it is because he is muslim, that is a stupid answer in and of itself.

    Just rest assured that you are making your decision based on facts and not hype.

    I think deciding to not vote for McCain because of his age is valid. What if he gets sick or dies while in office (even a minor stroke could really mess with his ability to lead)? Who will be his running mate? How qualified is the potential VP to take control of our nation?
    You're right about McCain possibly dying or becoming ill in office - I hadn't really thought about it like that, I guess, but they could at least find out what his politics are before writing him off. I disagree with just about everything he has said but at least I listened to what he said so I knew what would be happening if he did win.

    Thanks for the replies guys! I just get soooo frustrated when people want to start an argument over politics when they don't know shit. I'm no expert, theres SO much I don't understand about it all - I've only been legal to vote for a year. But at least I want to learn. They bitch all day about things that are wrong with this country and this and that and its people like THEM that are wrong with the effing country.

    Grrrr.

    Anyway, thanks for the support and different point of views.

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