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    Default I really wanted that Mirena :(

    So I went to the doc a few weeks ago and asked which bc I should get on. I suck at taking pills (I can't even remember to take my very very necessary meds, speaking of, i should take those now), I'm allergic to the adhesive in the patch, and I was on Nuvaring for 2 years, suffering through yeast infections every 4 months or so. So my doctor suggested Mirena. Ok, fine, seemed like a good idea. I did some research, and it still seemed like a good idea. So I scheduled my appointment to get it inserted.

    I went to my appointment, and the doctor tried like hell to get it in, but it wouldn't go. Apparently, I'm too small to fit anything in my cervix. I just wish she would have known that before trying, because that shit hurt! So here I am, in pain, cramping like a mofo, bleeding like a pig, for nothing. Sigh. I hate being a chick sometimes.

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    Default Re: I really wanted that Mirena :(

    I don't see Depo or Implanon in that list, try that?

    And omg someone gave you Mirena without you having to bed and please for it. I want it, can't get it.


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    Default Re: I really wanted that Mirena :(

    Yeah I'm going to get Implanon on Monday. I'm nervous.

    And no, I didn't even ask about Mirena. They suggested it to me. But apparently it was a bad suggestion anyway. I had my hopes up.

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    Default Re: I really wanted that Mirena :(

    Usually the insert it during your menstrual period, as your cervix opens during that time. Did you go when your were menstruating?

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    Default Re: I really wanted that Mirena :(

    You poor thing, that sounds really painful. Get a hot water bottle, some pain killers and some chocolate. Hope you feel better soon, x



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    Default Re: I really wanted that Mirena :(

    Yeah I went while menstruating. No luck. But it's okay. I'm feeling lots better today, eating an entire pint of ice cream helped hehe.

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    Default Re: I really wanted that Mirena :(

    Awww, sucks that you had to be in so much pain and didn't even get it it. I'm interested in the Implanon. I wonder if it will show under your skin?
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    ^Not unless you have like zero percent body fat..... I can feel it if I push there...but it's totally invisible otherwise.


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    Default Re: I really wanted that Mirena :(

    just had to comment here...

    i was going to have an iud/iuc inserted last year. amazingly, found out i was pregnant, so obviously didn't have it done.

    however, i was shocked to find out later that an iud dispels or destroys fertilized eggs--that's it's main method of preventing pregnancy. doctors and the medical community only consider a pregnancy starting at implantation, not conception--much to my surprise. i assumed that they worked like the pill--mainly preventing ovulation. neither the doctors nor the nurses mentioned this to me at the time whatsoever.

    to me, it's common sense that a pregnancy starts at conception. and i wasn't a hard-core pro-life activist or anything before all this. i've had friends get abortions and respected their choices. although, being a mommy now really changed my view of abortion as a whole. until i became pregnant, i didn't rule out abortion if i were in the position. but, once actually pregnant, there was absolutely no choice in my mind--i knew i couldn't end a life. it horrifies me now to know what my friends did to their unborn children. i am quite headstrong against abortion now.

    so, i felt the need to share this to those who may not know how an iud/iuc works.

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    Default Re: I really wanted that Mirena :(

    I had mine put in on my period and to be honest it hurt like hell and i bled everyday for about 4 months

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    Default Re: I really wanted that Mirena :(

    OMG that sucks! I have the Mirena and I love it. I've had it a little over five years and I need it replaced and I'm putting if off because I know it's going to hurt. I see you're in New Orleans. Who is your doctor? I wonder if having a different doctor would help?

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    That's such a bummer! I wonder what percentage of women this happens to!?

    I'll be inquiring about the Mirena in early march when I go for my next PAP. I'm terrified by the idea that there could be massive amounts of pain and bleeding involved in trying/getting one. I'm on Yaz now and skipping periods. The fact that with the Mirena you're only putting 1/7th the amount of hormones into your body(compared to the pill, so I read) is really appealing.

    Hope you feel better soon!

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    Default Re: I really wanted that Mirena :(

    doesn't anyone care that you're dispelling eggs with an iud????

    am i the only one (besides devout catholics) that thinks that's baby killing?!!

    it seems like the only issue is how much pain it'll cause you and hormone levels. that should be a concern, sure, but there are others!.......

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    Default Re: I really wanted that Mirena :(

    The only thing that is an abortion, is an abortion.

    http://www.mirena-us.com/howmirenaworks.html

    http://www.wisegeek.com/how-do-iuds-work.htm

    The only way it would even remotely be considered an "abortion" would be an involuntary abortion (miscarriage) in the case that sperm ever reached the egg (which is a 1-4% chance over the 5-10 years they're in place).

    "Although the pregnancy rate during IUD use is very low (less than 1% per year), it is not a 100% effective method of birth control. If pregnancy does occur, presence of the IUD increases the risk of miscarriage, particularly during the second trimester. It also increases the risk of premature delivery. These increased risks end if the IUD is removed after pregnancy is discovered. Although the Dalkon Shield IUD was associated with septic abortions (infections associated with miscarriage), other brands of IUD are not. IUDs are also not associated with birth defects or other pregnancy complication"

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IUD

    IUD's do work by letting the egg be fetilized and then "expelling" them. A lot of them work like hormonal birth control does.

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    Default Re: I really wanted that Mirena :(

    i've done extensive research on this actually.

    birth control pills primarily work by preventing ovulation and secondarily by expelling an egg should ovulation occur, since nothing is ever 100% effective. iuds work primarily by destroying &/or expelling eggs. they make the uterus a hostile environment. the reason the paraguard iud is made of copper is because copper is a germicide and readily destroys cellular structures. (side note: also a reason club poles are usually brass--so are hospital door knobs--is that many metals are natural sanitizers/germicides. another example is silver used to treat burn patiensts.) the mirena is a hormonal iud, which uses hormones to do basically the same thing. there is a clear distinction in the method of operation between birth control pills and iuds. this is where the controversy lies among religious folks.

    the term 'abortion,' is defined as termination of a pregnancy. as noted in my previous post, i was shocked to find out that the medical community defines a 'pregnancy' as beginning upon implantation of the fertilized egg in the uterus. i just assumed a life starts as soon as sperm and egg join and that is a pregnancy. the cells begin dividing immediately after fertilization, and is in fact, a complete human being. my point is that if an egg is fertilized and you do something to alter it's path (i.e. dispel it or destroy/kill it) that you are killing a human life, because without outside interference that egg may well have developed into a viable pregnancy/healthy human being.

    after finding all this out, i seriously was freaking out one night so upset at what i had almost done by getting an iud--and about once using emergency contraception (as it may expel/destroy an egg also). i really could not live with myself knowing that i consciously ridded myself of a fertilized baby. ultimately, my hubby calmed me down by reminding me that 1.--that was a remote possibility in my case, since the chances are very slim that my egg was fertilized to begin with, etc. and 2.--i was completely unaware at the time that's how the e.c. and iud works.

    i just can't help thinking that if i had, for example, expelled my daughter when she was just a fertilized egg; that she wouldn't be here today. and since she is here, that's proof to me that expelling her would have been quite literally ending her life.

    i know many feel differently about these serious and intense issues. but, i felt that people should at the very least know how methods of birth control work and make their own choices. everyone must live with those choices and their consequences.

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    birth control pills primarily work by preventing ovulation and secondarily by expelling an egg should ovulation occur, since nothing is ever 100% effective. iuds work primarily by destroying &/or expelling eggs. they make the uterus a hostile environment. the reason the paraguard iud is made of copper is because copper is a germicide and readily destroys cellular structures. (side note: also a reason club poles are usually brass--so are hospital door knobs--is that many metals are natural sanitizers/germicides. another example is silver used to treat burn patiensts.) the mirena is a hormonal iud, which uses hormones to do basically the same thing. there is a clear distinction in the method of operation between birth control pills and iuds. this is where the controversy lies among religious folks.
    From what I've read it seems like if you're using the Mirena IUD you are preventing fertilization of the egg because of the hormones being used, as well as preventing implantation. (As MixedBabe was saying in her post as well) With a regular IUD you're just preventing implantation, so, yes I guess the egg is most likely fertilized. IUD's are regularly used as a form of emergency contraception, as can be seen in this link http://www.gynob.emory.edu/familypla...ncycopperT.cfm

    So, just to clarify, from what I understand, the Mirena works like the pill and a regular copper IUD put together. You are most likely not expelling a fertilized egg with the Mirena.

    doesn't anyone care that you're dispelling eggs with an iud????
    To be honest, I can see how some people may be upset by the use of regular, non-hormonal IUD's, depending on their beliefs, but I am not, and would still think of getting one in the future. It's good to know how your choice of birth control is working though.

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    Default Re: I really wanted that Mirena :(

    HotRacerChick:
    Thank you for sharing your information. I'm sure many people find it useful. But if you want to discuss your ideas of conception and abortion please do so here:
    http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=150
    This is not a negotiation. Anyone continuing the topic here will be pointed.

    Thank you
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    Default Re: I really wanted that Mirena :(

    thanks jenny... i was mainly replying to the previous post, and explaining how i came to my realizations/facts. i didn't realize i was getting slightly off-topic.

    "So, just to clarify, from what I understand, the Mirena works like the pill and a regular copper IUD put together. You are most likely not expelling a fertilized egg with the Mirena."

    my research on the hormonal mirena iud results showed that the hormone levels are believed to be too low to prevent ovulation, and hence the main method of operation is still expelling eggs. the hormones are enough to destroy/expell eggs it is in close contact with, but not so much as to prevent ovulation. the hormones also help lessen or even stop bleeding with menstruation. so, yes, the mirena most likely expels eggs nearly exactly the same way as the paraguard does. it also is progestin-only, much like the 'mini pill.' the reason these pills are slightly less effective than the combination pills is that they are estimated to only prevent ovulation about half the time, rather than all the time like the combination pills. so, basically, all iud's (since there are only these two) work by expelling eggs.

    hopefully, this is helpful to some of you.
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    Bunny-

    I was told that if I wanted to come back and have another doctor try, I could, but I should was warned that it probably wouldn't work out with another doctor anyway, because it's the size of my cervix. Idk. I told my sister about it and she said she had the same problem (tiny cervix) and was told that she would never be able to pass a baby through it. ::Shrugs:: Oh well. I get my Implanon tomorrow and I really hope I don't have any bad side effects.

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    oh, that sucks limabean. I was going to suggest you try my doctor if you wanted but maybe your cervix is just too small.

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