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    Default Re: STD's in the porn industry [aka, because she asked it to be posted in a new threa

    Quote Originally Posted by Crow2 View Post
    So what's your point?
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirona View Post
    pps - I seriously doubt your intentions in starting this thread were because you were worried about the people here getting incorrect facts in regard to STD statistics amoung sex workers.
    I stated it. You accept it. You don't accept it. It stands or falls on its own merit like anything else said around here.

    I can live with that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Naida View Post
    A point that was also obviously missed in your response was GR's asking "per capita". This means the overall ratio, not the totalled numbers compared. The example your giving is like saying "in one test group consisting of 1,000,000 participants, individuals testing positive for ___ was 200,000, while test group two contained only 1,000 participants and 200 tested positive. Therefore, we can conclude that less people of test group two's influence are infected" simply because it is a lower number.

    In terms of per capita, both test groups are equal in infection rate because 20% of test subjects from each group tested positive.

    To be simply put, stop looking at it in terms of numbers and look at it in terms of percentages. Which percentage is higher? To be clear, I am NOT taking sides because I haven't done personal research.

    I attempted to point that out the first time that was used as a response to my query. That the figures totaled to the same ratio as the per capita ratio [1:6] for the general population.

    The other statement of "fact": that it is general practice [not just on the odd set here and there] to deny an actor or actress to shoot if they are HSV positive, I can't even find where they require the results of an HSV screening at any major production house, let alone bar people from scenes.

    Anyway, thanks for trying.
    Fiat justitia, pereat mundus.


    BTW, while we are on the subject, is it needed to point out the obvious: That it is just possible that if you are willing to judge the worth of someone simply by what you read on a website about them it might say a whole hell of a lot more about you than it says about the person you are judging?

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    Default Re: STD's in the porn industry [aka, because she asked it to be posted in a new threa

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    As a matter of fact both companies do that too. AIM advertises more for it than BC does ...

    I met the gentleman who owns/runs the Biocollections center in Florida. Very nice man. Very professional.
    This may be a bit off-thread, but has there been any(many??) cases of false positives, or false negatives occuring in testing? Also, are above cos. involved with DOT drug testing ? Links to reliability performance information?

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    Default Re: STD's in the porn industry [aka, because she asked it to be posted in a new threa

    Quote Originally Posted by minnow View Post
    This may be a bit off-thread, but has there been any(many??) cases of false positives, or false negatives occuring in testing? Also, are above cos. involved with DOT drug testing ? Links to reliability performance information?
    I don't know about AIM's or Biocollection's own data, but I did read that on average, only about 1 in every 300 HIV positive test results is actually a "false positive." I also read that "false positives" occur even less often than "false negatives."

    I know that with the HIV test, it is more likely for a "false negative" to occur in the early stages, since sometimes it takes a while before HIV antibodies are produced and/or HIV replicates enough to the point that it'd be detectable in a RNA or DNA test. For example, the earliest point that you can take an HIV DNA test is 10 days after exposure. I think I heard that 15 days after exposure, the HIV DNA test is 94% accurate. 25 days after exposure, the HIV DNA test is 98-99% accurate. (I might be slightly off on the numbers) As you can see, the longer you wait...the greater the efficiency of the test, and therefore the less likely it is to have a false negative.

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    Default Re: STD's in the porn industry [aka, because she asked it to be posted in a new threa

    Quote Originally Posted by Crow2 View Post
    I'm curious as to the purpose of this post. Thoes of us that do work in the porn industry know the risks.

    I have never come across in my short stint of doing porn anyone that was infected. As test results are shared with each co worker before any filming begins. It seems to me that your just trying to stir the pot so to speak and get more arguments going.
    how is this possible. There is no HPV test for men...have you never shot with men? Because its impossible to know if they are infected or not.

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    Default Re: STD's in the porn industry [aka, because she asked it to be posted in a new threa

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    how is this possible. There is no HPV test for men...have you never shot with men? Because its impossible to know if they are infected or not.
    Yes, I've made films with men.

    Half of this nation is infected with HPV according to the CDC. It also says that most of the time ones own body takes care of it. Unless you contract some weird, unusal strain of this disease and it mutates into cancer.

    You should read up.


    I've had one of the weird mutated strains and oddly enough I got this lovely gift from my second ex husband. Not a film star co worker.

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    Default Re: STD's in the porn industry [aka, because she asked it to be posted in a new threa

    Quote Originally Posted by Crow2 View Post
    Yes, I've made films with men.

    Half of this nation is infected with HPV according to the CDC. It also says that most of the time ones own body takes care of it. Unless you contract some weird, unusal strain of this disease and it mutates into cancer.

    You should read up.


    I've had one of the weird mutated strains and oddly enough I got this lovely gift from my second ex husband. Not a film star co worker.
    then u cant say you have never come across a porn star with an std
    anyway can you please visit the other work lounge. I posted a porn related question and this lady is really pissing me off trying to feed me false information

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    Default Re: STD's in the porn industry [aka, because she asked it to be posted in a new threa

    I'm not going to argue with you ..

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    Default Re: STD's in the porn industry [aka, because she asked it to be posted in a new threa

    Crow, its comments like the above that set me off in the first place.

    Bebewood isn't arguing with you.

    Someone makes a statement they've never worked in porn with anyone with an STD.

    Someone points out that HPV is an STD and there are no tests for HPV in men, so if said person ever worked with male performers there is no way for that person to categorically state they have never worked with someone with an STD. ESPECIALLY given the prevalence of the presence of HPV in the population.

    It is simple boolean LOGIC Bebewood is putting forth. Its not an attack, and it can't be denied with a straight face because its too high to go over, too low to go under, and too wide to go around.

    BTW, no one is saying you have worked with people that have an STD either.

    Just that it is impossible to tell sometimes given the state of testing, whether or not they require it for that SPECIFIC STD, combined with the rate of exposure for the general population.

    That is all I was saying earlier as well.

    Anyway....
    Last edited by Golden_Rule; 03-28-2008 at 01:57 AM.
    Fiat justitia, pereat mundus.


    BTW, while we are on the subject, is it needed to point out the obvious: That it is just possible that if you are willing to judge the worth of someone simply by what you read on a website about them it might say a whole hell of a lot more about you than it says about the person you are judging?

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