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    Okay im so torn between being upset and pissed off and trying to be understanding at the same time.

    I vouched for a girl to bring her to Winnipeg to work. Shes a great girl... shes the one who got me started dancing and I love her dearly as shes really a sweet fun person.

    Well today was day three and she started freaking out because she felt like she wasn't going to make any money. I got her an amazing show price here... got her lots of shows and a co feature spot at the club I was featuring this week. She was getting lots of shows and floor time at one of the busiest bars in Winnipeg. The only other club thats as busy is a whore house.

    So tonight she pulls a no show, decides she doesn't want to do this anymore and goes to work at the whore house. She walked out on the agency. She figures she will make more money working at the skank club then working for the agency.

    Now I want to be understanding because she does need to make money. But she can't decide on a Weds that there is no money to be made.

    Now because of this im going to have a pissed off agent because this is the second girl i've brought here to pull this shit.

    As of now I am no longer ever ever ever going to put my name with another dancer.

    I do hope she makes money and I really hope shes safe at the other club(i've known girls who have been molested at this club because of the rep that it has).

    I just wish she would have realized that her actions are going to hurt me.

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    how inconsiderate of her. I'm a really nice person too, who is constantly trying to help my friends out, but it's come back to bite me in the ass so many times that I hardly ever do it anymore.

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    it's very inconsiderate of her.

    i also think it's a good idea that you do not tie your name to anyone elses. it may suck at some times, but overall it will be worth it.

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    Unfortunately, I'm the same. I'll seem like a bitch to any newbies because I'm not willing to help them out by lending them shoes, or anything for that matter.... been burnt too many times! I don't even mention SW randomly and to many other dancers unless I really feel it would be of benefit to them to come here.

    I will refer girls to different agents/agencies here for private party work however never EVER actually "introduce" the girl to the agency myself. I don't want to be associated with that person in case that person is similar to your girl.. and flops.

    My disclaimer is that the other person is an individual and thus her actions do not reflect upon me - positively and negatively. Judge her without also judging me alongside her as such.

    I say tell her how her actions have hurt you whilst at the same time wishing her well.

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    I agree.

    At the same time though she does need to make money and I can understand why she might get panicky about things.

    I do wish her the best and I do want her to make the money she needs.

    I just wish her decisions didn't effect me and my job

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    There was one time I not only recommend someone but gave them glowing reviews. When it came time to work, they screamed, threw stuff at the owner, threw a really childish tantrum and stormed out.

    I wanted to die.

    So I understand. Come to Australia and I'll lick the pain away.


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    It's very hard to mix friends and business. I've had a similar thing once when a friend decided to dance at my club, when I kind of discouraged it, but she still came. Then she got crazy drunk, like completely wrecked, did some stupid things, got in shit, threw a tantrum, cried in the changeroom and refused to leave the club with me when I asked if I could take her home. The manager was all up in my face, but it wasn't my fault. It is disapointing, and embarrassing. We're still great friends and stuff, but I try my best to only put my neck on the line for myself alone.

    Your heart was in the right place, and I know what a helpful person you are. Sometimes people are going to mean well, and still throw that kindness back at you. It sucks. Your agency would be stupid not to understand that this isn't your fault though. I hope your friend is alright.

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    God girl.....have you not learned about this yet????

    Hate to say it...but I told you so!

    Worry about YOURSELF for once, instead of worrying about everyone else...and screwing yourself!
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    I'm so sorry. It sucks, but just make sure it doesn't happen again.

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    I feel your pain. I have totally quit recommending dancers.
    I work bachelor parties and I get many requests for dancers. I have had so many no shows last year I just said no more. I’m done with it.

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    That's one of those cultural differences; I mean, you know out here it is perfectly acceptable to walk out of a club if it seems like it is not financially advantageous; that's exactly what you are meant to do. I mean, you can understand how it is hard for a girl from here to really absorb the idea that she is meant to just suck up a bad week to benefit an agency or club owner if a better week is to be had down the street. Like, I understand what she is did is wrong in the context in which you work; but I can also see how a girl from Ontario would be all "What's the big thing? I changed clubs - I'm sorry, what's wrong?"
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    To me it’s about my word being my bond. It’s a commitment, its professionalism. If a better gig comes along or the one I am one is bad I stay and do what I commit to.

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    *smacks Cally with a newspaper*

    NO! Did we not have this discussion last time? Most eastern tabledancers CANNOT hack it on the Western stage circuit! If you're going to bring girls to Winnipeg, bring professional showgirls that know the job and won't flake out! Do you hear me? NO MORE TABLE DANCERS. NO MORE. Seriously.

    As for this whorehouse....is it the one that used to be my fave bar and now it sucks ass and that's why I probabaly won't go back to dancing ever again.....or is it the one downtown that was always skanky and questionable by tried to pretend they were all "classy" by being really uber expensive?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kitty260 View Post
    *smacks Cally with a newspaper*

    NO! Did we not have this discussion last time? Most eastern tabledancers CANNOT hack it on the Western stage circuit! If you're going to bring girls to Winnipeg, bring professional showgirls that know the job and won't flake out! Do you hear me? NO MORE TABLE DANCERS. NO MORE. Seriously.

    As for this whorehouse....is it the one that used to be my fave bar and now it sucks ass and that's why I probabaly won't go back to dancing ever again.....or is it the one downtown that was always skanky and questionable by tried to pretend they were all "classy" by being really uber expensive?
    Well I thought she would do well. Shes usually a hard worker, shes worked as a house feature and done a small feature circuit in the GTA. I figured she was different.

    Guess I should have known better.

    As for the club its the one we both used to love and turned nasty. You know... the one with Waitresses Gone Wild

    The other one your referring to has cleaned up and is actually my new fav.

    I talked to the agency this morning and they're being really understanding(thank god). They want to send her to TBay next week

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenny View Post
    That's one of those cultural differences; I mean, you know out here it is perfectly acceptable to walk out of a club if it seems like it is not financially advantageous; that's exactly what you are meant to do. I mean, you can understand how it is hard for a girl from here to really absorb the idea that she is meant to just suck up a bad week to benefit an agency or club owner if a better week is to be had down the street. Like, I understand what she is did is wrong in the context in which you work; but I can also see how a girl from Ontario would be all "What's the big thing? I changed clubs - I'm sorry, what's wrong?"
    That's true too...I get all defensive at the notion that we can't "hack it" out there. If you're not used to being employed as a dancer, versus just a free agent, there's little incentive to stick around for an agency's sake. She probably didn't think it would affect your position, Cally. She probably just wanted better money, and what might seem like a whorehouse in Winnipeg isn't probably as intimidating to someone accustomed to giving Ontario lapdances. I mean, the whores in my club doesn't mean I'm one too. I mean, I know we dance a bit closer for the cash around here, but I can't help but bristle at being considered a lesser stripper...it's that East/ West misunderstanding! I think.

    In any case, I think ultimately you have to let the girls get out there themselves if they want to, because pulling strings for people can come back to haunt you, you know?

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    Winnipeg clubs are notoriously inconsistent if you're just selling tickets without the security of a paycheck. That chick that bailed on her booking on a wednesday is a fucking moron. Hell, you can make $700+ just doing jam shows on a Friday...all show pay, no hustling, no effort. Guarenteed cash. The show count always explodes Thursday to Saturday.

    This chick will go crawling back to the agency by Monday unless she's planning to make her money at the whorehouse by fucking and sucking in the private room.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mollyzmoon View Post
    That's true too...I get all defensive at the notion that we can't "hack it" out there. If you're not used to being employed as a dancer, versus just a free agent, there's little incentive to stick around for an agency's sake. She probably didn't think it would affect your position, Cally. She probably just wanted better money, and what might seem like a whorehouse in Winnipeg isn't probably as intimidating to someone accustomed to giving Ontario lapdances. I mean, the whores in my club doesn't mean I'm one too. I mean, I know we dance a bit closer for the cash around here, but I can't help but bristle at being considered a lesser stripper...it's that East/ West misunderstanding! I think.

    In any case, I think ultimately you have to let the girls get out there themselves if they want to, because pulling strings for people can come back to haunt you, you know?
    No Molly she knew her decision would effect me. Her driver told her so and I had told her so when she came out here. I warned her and told her about the last girl.

    Also this club is far worse then any Ontario club. They have a hotel room for the girls to use. They pimp their waitresses out for full service type stuff(yes full on fucking). I know a girl who walked into the hotel room once and saw a chick with one guy in her ass, another in her mouth and another in her pussy.

    The manager of the club is always giving the waitresses and freelancers coke, trying to fuck them(often succeeds) and getting the girls to fuck on film for free to put on his website.

    The agency will only send girls there to do stage shows, he will not allow them to do 'floor time'.

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    Um, just to clarify, this isn't me. I'm a good girl


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    Quote Originally Posted by Scarlett.Oz View Post
    Um, just to clarify, this isn't me. I'm a good girl


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    Aww shucks


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    Quote Originally Posted by Scarlett.Oz View Post
    Um, just to clarify, this isn't me. I'm a good girl


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    sure do, we're outta here on monday though. and I don't like pants, whatchu got?
    pm me cos i've just totally jacked this thread (or jacked it off?)

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